Sabrefly Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 This is so unfortunate, P3Dv3.3.5 doesn't start with FSUIPC v4.965. Pete, could you fix it or it's unfixable? P3Dv3.4 hf3 is horrible vs P3Dv3.3.5 in managing VAS. Is it due to some changes you introduced to handle input devices, like you intended to in v4.962+ (or close to it?) but cancelled that time? Thanks, Igor. PS: I checked by disabling FSUIPC.dll in DLL.XML --> P3Dv3.3.5 launches OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefly Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 How to downgrade FSUIPC properly? The installer doesn't want to overwrite an older file. I can roll back, but I wonder how to downgrade. Thanks, Igor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 45 minutes ago, Sabrefly said: This is so unfortunate, P3Dv3.3.5 doesn't start with FSUIPC v4.965 with absolutely zero information provided I can't possibly help. Where's the log file? In what way doesn't is start? Is there a Windows crash log? There's no way I can guess these things. I have to have information to work from! 47 minutes ago, Sabrefly said: Is it due to some changes you introduced to handle input devices There's no way anything to do with input devices will "crash" P3Dless you have a rogue device driver which would crash in any case. And FSUIPC's actions won't be any different for version 3.3.5 to any other version. The changes from version to version are to do with internals, direct access to P3D internal functions, and those for 3.3.5 would have been frozen ever since its release. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefly Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said: with absolutely zero information provided I can't possibly help. Where's the log file? In what way doesn't is start? Is there a Windows crash log? There's no way I can guess these things. I have to have information to work from! There's no way anything to do with input devices will "crash" P3Dless you have a rogue device driver which would crash in any case. And FSUIPC's actions won't be any different for version 3.3.5 to any other version. The changes from version to version are to do with internals, direct access to P3D internal functions, and those for 3.3.5 would have been frozen ever since its release. Pete Sounds like there's hope then! Ok, I'll send you the logs like you taught me about a month earlier, just need to search that thread on the forum. Igor. PS: the P3D just hangs up at launch at P3D Splash window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefly Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 I referred to this thread: Modifications you intended didn't work in Win10 x64 as I remember now. Igor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefly Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 I'll simplify the logs by unloading some dlls and exe's then post the logs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefly Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 So, here's FSUIPC LOG Quote ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.965 (6th April 2017) by Pete Dowson ********* Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit reported as Build 14393, Release ID: 1607 (OS 10.0) Prepar3D.exe version = 3.3.5.17625 Reading options from "F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini" Running inside Prepar3D v3 on Windows 10 Module base=5AA00000 User Name="-------------------" User Addr="---------------------------" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WideFS7 Key is provided 0 System time = 13/04/2017 00:30:53 16 FLT UNC path = "\\I6\Prepar3D v3 Files\" 16 ------ Module Version Check ------ 16 acontain.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 api.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 controls.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 fs-traffic.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 G3D.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 language.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 sim1.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 visualfx.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 weather.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 window.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 ---------------------------------- 16 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 16 Found it: trying to connect 16 FS UNC path = "\\I6\Prepar3D v3\" 78 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan ----------------------- 78 Product= Control Manager ID #00 78 Manufacturer= Control Manager ID #00 78 Serial Number= Control Manager ID #00 78 Vendor=068E, Product=C011 (Version 0.0) 78 Assigned joystick id 0 (Registry okay) 94 GUID= {C82A9610-1924-11E6-8001-444553540000} 94 Product= Saitek P8000 94 Manufacturer= Saitek 110 Serial Number= 00200473 110 Vendor=06A3, Product=05D2 (Version 1.0) 110 Assigned joystick id 1 (Registry okay) 110 GUID= {6353CB80-18FC-11E6-8003-444553540000} 110 Product= Control Manager ID #00 110 Manufacturer= Control Manager ID #00 110 Serial Number= Control Manager ID #00 110 Vendor=068E, Product=C010 (Version 0.0) 110 Assigned joystick id 2 (Registry okay) 110 GUID= {C82C6AD0-1924-11E6-8002-444553540000} 110 Product= Control Manager ID #00 110 Manufacturer= Control Manager ID #00 110 Serial Number= Control Manager ID #00 110 Vendor=068E, Product=C013 (Version 0.0) 110 Assigned joystick id 3 (Registry okay) 110 GUID= {C87A3CB0-1924-11E6-8003-444553540000} 110 Product= Control Manager ID #00 110 Manufacturer= Control Manager ID #00 110 Serial Number= Control Manager ID #00 110 Vendor=068E, Product=C012 (Version 0.0) 110 Assigned joystick id 4 (Registry okay) 110 GUID= {C87B2710-1924-11E6-8004-444553540000} 110 Product= F16 MFD 1 110 Manufacturer= Thrustmaster 110 Vendor=044F, Product=B351 (Version 1.0) 110 Assigned joystick id 6 (Registry okay) 110 GUID= {E21EB120-1927-11E6-8001-444553540000} 110 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 219 LogOptions=00000000 00000001 219 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 219 ------ Setting the hooks and direct calls into the simulator ------ 219 --- CONTROLS timer memory location obtained ok 219 --- SIM1 Frictions access gained 219 --- FS Controls Table located ok 219 --- Installed Mouse Macro hooks ok. 219 --- Wind smoothing fix is installed 219 --- SimConnect intercept for texts and menus option is off 219 --- All links okay (except older global weather setting method) 219 ### Traffic limited by user parameter to 200 aircraft 219 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 219 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 219 Trying to use SimConnect Prepar3D 219 VRI port 1 "com3" failed to open 219 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 32907 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 32907 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 33016 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 33016 Found it: trying to connect 33016 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 33016 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 33016 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 33016 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 33125 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 33125 Found it: trying to connect 33125 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 33125 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 33125 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 33125 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 33219 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 33219 Found it: trying to connect 33219 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 33219 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 33219 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 33219 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 33328 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 33328 Found it: trying to connect 33328 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 33328 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 33344 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 33344 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 33438 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 33438 Found it: trying to connect 33453 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 33453 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 33453 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 33453 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 33547 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 33547 Found it: trying to connect 33547 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 33547 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 33547 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 33547 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 33641 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 33641 Found it: trying to connect 33641 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 33641 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 33641 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 33641 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 33750 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 33750 Found it: trying to connect 33750 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 33750 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 33750 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 33750 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 33844 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 33844 Found it: trying to connect 33844 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 33844 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 33844 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 33844 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 33953 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 33953 Found it: trying to connect 33953 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 33953 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 33953 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 33953 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 34047 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 34047 Found it: trying to connect 34047 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 34047 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 34047 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 34047 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 34157 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 34157 Found it: trying to connect 34157 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 34157 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 34157 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 34157 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 34250 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 34250 Found it: trying to connect 34250 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 34250 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 34250 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 34250 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 34360 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 34360 Found it: trying to connect 34360 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 34360 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 34360 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 34360 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 34453 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 34453 Found it: trying to connect 34453 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 34453 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 34453 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 34453 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 34563 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 34563 Found it: trying to connect 34563 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 34563 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 34563 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 34563 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 34657 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 34657 Found it: trying to connect 34657 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 34657 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 34657 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 34657 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 34766 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 34766 Found it: trying to connect 34766 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 34766 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 34766 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 34766 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 34860 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 34860 Found it: trying to connect 34860 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 34860 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 34860 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 34860 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 34969 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 34969 Found it: trying to connect 34969 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 34969 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 34969 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 34969 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 35063 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 35063 Found it: trying to connect 35063 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 35063 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 35063 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 35063 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 35172 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 35172 Found it: trying to connect 35172 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 35172 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 35172 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 35172 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 35266 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 35266 Found it: trying to connect 35266 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 35266 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 35266 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 35266 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 35375 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 35375 Found it: trying to connect 35375 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 35375 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 35375 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 35375 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 35469 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 35469 Found it: trying to connect 35469 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 35469 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 35469 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 35469 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 35578 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 35578 Found it: trying to connect 35578 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 35578 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 35578 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 35578 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 35672 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 35672 Found it: trying to connect 35672 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 35672 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 35672 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 35672 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 35782 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 35782 Found it: trying to connect 35782 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 35782 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 35782 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 35782 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 35875 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 35875 Found it: trying to connect 35875 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 35875 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 35875 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 35875 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 35985 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 35985 Found it: trying to connect 35985 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 35985 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 35985 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 35985 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 36078 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 36078 Found it: trying to connect 36078 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 36078 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 36078 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 36078 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 36172 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 36172 Found it: trying to connect 36172 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 36172 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 36172 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 36172 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 36282 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 36282 Found it: trying to connect 36282 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 36282 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 36282 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 36282 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 36375 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 36375 Found it: trying to connect 36375 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 36375 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 36375 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 36375 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 36485 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 36485 Found it: trying to connect 36485 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 36485 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 36485 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 36485 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 36578 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 36578 Found it: trying to connect 36578 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 36578 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 36578 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 36578 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 36688 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 36688 Found it: trying to connect 36688 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 36688 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 36688 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 36688 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 36782 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 36782 Found it: trying to connect 36782 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 36782 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 36782 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 36782 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 36891 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 36891 Found it: trying to connect 36891 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 36891 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 36891 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 36891 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 36985 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 36985 Found it: trying to connect 36985 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 36985 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 36985 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 36985 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 37094 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 37094 Found it: trying to connect 37094 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 37094 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 37094 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 37094 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 37188 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 37188 Found it: trying to connect 37188 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 37188 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 37188 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 37188 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 37297 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 37297 Found it: trying to connect 37297 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 37297 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 37297 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 37297 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 37391 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 37391 Found it: trying to connect 37391 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 37391 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 37391 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 37391 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 37500 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 37500 Found it: trying to connect 37500 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 37500 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 37500 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 37500 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 37594 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 37594 Found it: trying to connect 37594 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 37594 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 37594 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 37594 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 37703 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 37703 Found it: trying to connect 37703 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 37703 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 37703 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 37703 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 37797 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 37797 Found it: trying to connect 37797 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 37797 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 37797 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 37797 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 37907 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 37907 Found it: trying to connect 37907 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 37907 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 37907 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 37907 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 38000 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 38000 Found it: trying to connect 38000 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 38000 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 38000 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 38000 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 38110 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 38110 Found it: trying to connect 38110 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 38110 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 38110 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 38110 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 38203 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 38203 Found it: trying to connect 38203 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 38203 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 38203 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 38203 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 38313 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 38313 Found it: trying to connect 38313 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 38313 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 38313 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 38313 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 38407 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 38407 Found it: trying to connect 38407 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 38407 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 38407 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 38407 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 38516 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 38516 Found it: trying to connect 38516 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 38516 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 38516 Failed on SimConnect_CallDispatch for Message, return = 0xC000014B 38516 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 38516 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 55141 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 55141 Found it: trying to connect 55141 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 55141 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 55141 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! 55141 Trying another version of SimConnect ... 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Sabrefly Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 Log Name: Application Source: .NET Runtime Date: 4/13/2017 12:31:32 AM Event ID: 1026 Task Category: None Level: Error Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: I6 Description: Application: Prepar3D.exe Framework Version: v4.0.30319 Description: The process was terminated due to an unhandled exception. Exception Info: exception code c0000005, exception address 5A9E4787 Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event"> <System> <Provider Name=".NET Runtime" /> <EventID Qualifiers="0">1026</EventID> <Level>2</Level> <Task>0</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2017-04-12T21:31:32.016480100Z" /> <EventRecordID>67591</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer>I6</Computer> <Security /> </System> <EventData> <Data>Application: Prepar3D.exe Framework Version: v4.0.30319 Description: The process was terminated due to an unhandled exception. Exception Info: exception code c0000005, exception address 5A9E4787 </Data> </EventData> </Event> Log Name: Application Source: Application Error Date: 4/13/2017 12:31:32 AM Event ID: 1000 Task Category: (100) Level: Error Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: I6 Description: Faulting application name: Prepar3D.exe, version: 3.3.5.17625, time stamp: 0x5758bb31 Faulting module name: SimConnectP3D3.dll, version: 3.4.22.19868, time stamp: 0x58df7864 Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0x00004787 Faulting process id: 0x16b8 Faulting application start time: 0x01d2b3d4057df3be Faulting application path: F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Prepar3D.exe Faulting module path: F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll Report Id: 5e2cc354-46ad-4216-9898-cc40e459ca2d Faulting package full name: Faulting package-relative application ID: Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event"> <System> <Provider Name="Application Error" /> <EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID> <Level>2</Level> <Task>100</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2017-04-12T21:31:32.070625500Z" /> <EventRecordID>67592</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer>I6</Computer> <Security /> </System> <EventData> <Data>Prepar3D.exe</Data> <Data>3.3.5.17625</Data> <Data>5758bb31</Data> <Data>SimConnectP3D3.dll</Data> <Data>3.4.22.19868</Data> <Data>58df7864</Data> <Data>c0000005</Data> <Data>00004787</Data> <Data>16b8</Data> <Data>01d2b3d4057df3be</Data> <Data>F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Prepar3D.exe</Data> <Data>F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll</Data> <Data>5e2cc354-46ad-4216-9898-cc40e459ca2d</Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> </EventData> </Event> Thanks, Igor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefly Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 The above happens on Win10 x64; only with P3Dv3.3.5 + FSUIPCv4.965 combination (and P3Dv3.3.5 is important for me and for many) Please see what can be done. Thanks, Igor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Sabrefly said: Modifications you intended didn't work in Win10 x64 as I remember now. Yes, that version was withdrawn because of the Win10 bugs in the DirectX code. One day I hope to revisit that -- maybe MS will get around to fixing them one day. However, the subsequent releases to improve Joystick treatment were essentially building on the original code, just doing things in a different order, really. 2 hours ago, Sabrefly said: PS: the P3D just hangs up at launch at P3D Splash window. Without making an FSUIPC log file? If so, then FSUIPC was not even running. The log you posted above clearly shows successful Joystick device scans, but later shows: Quote 32907 Exception 5 "VERSION_MISMATCH", Ref 1, Version 3.0: Open: SimConnect Version incorrect! which is never recovered. It seems your version of P3D installed on Windows 10 is corrupt -- that message is returned by SimConnect on the attempt by FSUIPC to connect with it. I really don't know any other possible cause except corruption, You could try installing the FSX/SP2 or ACC version of SimConnect and removing the SimConnectP3D3.DLL file from the Modules folder. That might be a workaround. But I would have thought you could have problems in the future anyway with other SimConnect applications compiled specifically for P3D (as opposed to transported from FSX). Of you crash reports you submitted, this one 53 minutes ago, Sabrefly said: Source: .NET Runtime is not at all related to FSUIPC. There's no .NET code associated with FSUIPC or the SimConnect interface it uses. The other one cites: 55 minutes ago, Sabrefly said: Faulting module name: SimConnectP3D3.dll, version: 3.4.22.19868, time which is the DLL I supply which uses the L-M supplied SimConnect library to interface directly into P3D's SimConnect -- the call it makes to start that process is the one failing repeatedly according to the log. You could also try going back to the P3D3.0 version of my SimConnectP3D3.DLL -- link SimConnectP3D30.zip just use that in the Modules folder instead of the SimConnectP3D3.DLL which is there. But if that works it really only confirms something is very wrong with the P3D installation, because it is only designed for 3.0-3.1. Things changed in 3.2 onwards which made that one crash. And I think that will be the most likely result -- a different crash, but a consistent one. If you do end up using it, remember to save it and reinstall it after any future FSUIPC update. In the end it might be much easier to perform a reinstalltion. You might only need to reinstall the client, which is pretty painless and avoids any reinstalling of other add-ons. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefly Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 Ok, here's my current work around: Having gone through the logs I didn't like SimConnectP3D3.dll (version: 3.4.22.19868 not sure how it got there?) so I decided to drop in a previous version 3.0.0.13948 of SimConnectP3D3.dll. With this version FSUIPC v4.965 starts ok!! Please explain Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sabrefly Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 I was posting my findings when I saw you posted, almost at the same time. I have no idea, when did SimConnectP3D3.dll, version: 3.4.22.19868, come along? I keep my Acronis copies of P3D folder, so I can trace back in time. Igor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefly Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 Ok, If you could tell me when you added this specific version 4.22.19868 to FSUIPC installation (version number?) replacing version 3.0.0.13948 then I would figure out what could have gone wrong with my P3D install/update (if it really went wrong at all) at some point. Thanks, Igor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easton Williams Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 I would like to thank you guys for helping me solve this problem! I was flying my PMDG 737 earlier and when I exited the sim and tried to re-enter it would not even start and it just sat by idling in the Task Manager, I had thought all was lost and I would have to delete 230gb of data on my SSD dedicated ONLY to P3D and then a few hours later I found this after I was about to give up. Why would it have randomly done this? Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easton Williams Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 Never mind, I now have a couple of problems I have not had before, now I have some weird mouse stuttering like when I move the mouse it moves at a low fps, and Ezdok now has been jacked up and views are changing I guess the default P3D way instead... Where can I get a file for the latest FSUIPC? Thanks Easton Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefly Posted April 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 Pete, I reinstalled P3Dv3.3.5 client then removed all files from Modules folder and installed the very recent FSUIPC v4.964 (made 1st March 2017) full intaller. I found that FSUIPC v4.964 installer still put in SimConnectP3D v3.0.0.13948 file. So SimConnectP3D v3.4.22.19868 in FSUIPC appeared very recently and was intended (most probably) for P3Dv3.4 hf3. I tried P3Dv3.4 hf3 with FSUIPC v4.965 (SimConnectP3D v3.4.22.19868) and it works. Unfortunately handling of VAS by P3Dv3.4 hf3 is very much inferior to P3Dv3.3.5, whereas occupied blocks of VAS don't get released like they do in P3Dv3.3.5. So, like you wrote, I'll need to use SimConnectP3D v3.0.0.13948 with your further versions of FSUIPC. Also, there is nothing seemingly wrong with my P3D installation. Just SimConnectP3D v3.4.22.19868 was intended for the latest version of P3Dv3.4 as seen above. Thanks, Igor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 9 hours ago, Sabrefly said: Ok, If you could tell me when you added this specific version 4.22.19868 to FSUIPC installation (version number?) replacing version 3.0.0.13948 then I would figure out what could have gone wrong with my P3D install/update (if it really went wrong at all) at some point. Have you tried the one I gave you a link to yet? Please do that. If that one works better with your 3.3 I will alter the Installer to install that one instead. But as far as I know, the part of the interface I am using changed from 3.2. It was with 3.2 that problems were reported. 3.4 has the same interface as 3.2 as far as FSUIPC usage is concerned. If you try the older version and it works, then I know where to look. If it doesn't, it is a different problem. That was the point of me providing you the link! [LATER] Just saw the earlier message saying you'd tried it as requested! See my next message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 10 hours ago, Sabrefly said: Having gone through the logs I didn't like SimConnectP3D3.dll (version: 3.4.22.19868 not sure how it got there?) so I decided to drop in a previous version 3.0.0.13948 of SimConnectP3D3.dll. With this version FSUIPC v4.965 starts ok!! Right. Something is a bit odd then. I've got something to go on. It would be useful, please, to see the good log. I'll probasbly not be able to get to this till next week now. Grossly overladed at present, and in the meanwhile you are up and running ... Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefly Posted April 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said: Just saw the earlier message saying you'd tried it as requested! See my next message. Pete, honestly I didn't even try that file you posted abouve, I just downloded it, checked the version and saw that I had the same one from my previous backups, and it is working with both v4.964 and v4.965. Thanks, Igor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, Sabrefly said: I found that FSUIPC v4.964 installer still put in SimConnectP3D v3.0.0.13948 file. Ah. That's interesting! Thanks. I'll have to look at exactly what the Installer is doing. It shouldn't have changed that part. Next week ... Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Easton Williams said: Where can I get a file for the latest FSUIPC? The latest FSUIPC is obtained in the normal places, of ocurse, on the Schiratti site pointed to by the SimMarket links, and here in the Download Links subforum. You should have started a new thread. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefly Posted April 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 Here's a good log of P3Dv3.3.5 + FSUIPC v4.965 + SimconnectP3D v3.0.0.13948 ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.965 (6th April 2017) by Pete Dowson ********* Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit reported as Build 14393, Release ID: 1607 (OS 10.0) Prepar3D.exe version = 3.3.5.17625 Reading options from "F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini" Running inside Prepar3D v3 on Windows 10 Module base=53250000 User Name="Igor Petrov" User Addr="petrovigor@umail.ru" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WideFS7 Key is provided 16 System time = 13/04/2017 11:36:21 16 FLT UNC path = "\\I6\Prepar3D v3 Files\" 16 ------ Module Version Check ------ 16 acontain.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 api.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 controls.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 fs-traffic.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 G3D.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 language.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 sim1.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 visualfx.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 weather.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 window.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 ---------------------------------- 16 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 16 Found it: trying to connect 16 FS UNC path = "\\I6\Prepar3D v3\" 79 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan ----------------------- 79 Product= Control Manager ID #00 79 Manufacturer= Control Manager ID #00 79 Serial Number= Control Manager ID #00 79 Vendor=068E, Product=C011 (Version 0.0) 79 Assigned joystick id 0 (Registry okay) 94 GUID= {C82A9610-1924-11E6-8001-444553540000} 94 Product= Saitek P8000 94 Manufacturer= Saitek 110 Serial Number= 00200473 110 Vendor=06A3, Product=05D2 (Version 1.0) 110 Assigned joystick id 1 (Registry okay) 110 GUID= {6353CB80-18FC-11E6-8003-444553540000} 110 Product= Control Manager ID #00 110 Manufacturer= Control Manager ID #00 110 Serial Number= Control Manager ID #00 110 Vendor=068E, Product=C010 (Version 0.0) 110 Assigned joystick id 2 (Registry okay) 110 GUID= {C82C6AD0-1924-11E6-8002-444553540000} 110 Product= Control Manager ID #00 110 Manufacturer= Control Manager ID #00 110 Serial Number= Control Manager ID #00 110 Vendor=068E, Product=C013 (Version 0.0) 110 Assigned joystick id 3 (Registry okay) 110 GUID= {C87A3CB0-1924-11E6-8003-444553540000} 110 Product= Control Manager ID #00 110 Manufacturer= Control Manager ID #00 110 Serial Number= Control Manager ID #00 110 Vendor=068E, Product=C012 (Version 0.0) 110 Assigned joystick id 4 (Registry okay) 110 GUID= {C87B2710-1924-11E6-8004-444553540000} 110 Product= F16 MFD 1 110 Manufacturer= Thrustmaster 110 Vendor=044F, Product=B351 (Version 1.0) 110 Assigned joystick id 6 (Registry okay) 110 GUID= {E21EB120-1927-11E6-8001-444553540000} 110 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 219 LogOptions=00000000 00000001 219 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 219 ------ Setting the hooks and direct calls into the simulator ------ 219 --- CONTROLS timer memory location obtained ok 219 --- SIM1 Frictions access gained 219 --- FS Controls Table located ok 219 --- Installed Mouse Macro hooks ok. 219 --- Wind smoothing fix is installed 219 --- SimConnect intercept for texts and menus option is off 219 --- All links okay (except older global weather setting method) 219 ### Traffic limited by user parameter to 200 aircraft 219 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 219 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 219 Trying to use SimConnect Prepar3D 219 VRI port 1 "com3" failed to open 219 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 30594 Running in "Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v3", Version: 3.3.3.3 (SimConnect: 3.3.0.0) 30594 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 30594 FSUIPC Menu entry added 30610 \\I6\Users\I6\AppData\Local\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Prepar3D_Default.fxml 30610 \\I6\Prepar3D v3\SimObjects\Airplanes\IRIS Raptor Driver\Raptor.air 164313 === DLLStop called ... 164313 === Closing external processes we started ... 165313 === About to kill any Lua plug-ins still running ... 165469 === Closing global Lua thread 166469 === About to kill my timers ... 166672 === Restoring window procs ... 166672 === Unloading libraries ... 166672 === stopping other threads ... 166672 === ... Memory checking ... 166672 === ... Button scanning ... 166766 === ... Axis scanning ... 166860 === Releasing joystick devices ... 166860 === Freeing macro memory 166860 === Removing any offset overrides 166860 === Clearing any displays left 166860 === NOTE: not calling SimConnect_Close ... 166860 === AI slots deleted! 166860 === Freeing button memory ... 166860 === Closing my Windows ... 166860 === Freeing FS libraries ... 167860 === Closing devices ... 168860 === Closing the Log ... Bye Bye! ... 168860 System time = 13/04/2017 11:39:10 168860 *** FSUIPC log file being closed Minimum frame rate was 32768.0 fps, Maximum was 0.0 fps Minimum available memory recorded was 32768Mb Maximum AI traffic for session was 0 aircraft Traffic deletions 0 aircraft Memory managed: 14 Allocs, 14 Freed ********* FSUIPC Log file closed *********** Thanks, Igor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easton Williams Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, Pete Dowson said: The latest FSUIPC is obtained in the normal places, of ocurse, on the Schiratti site pointed to by the SimMarket links, and here in the Download Links subforum. You should have started a new thread. Pete I installed the latest version and now my simulator won't open, it shows the Lockheed Martin P3D screen then windows says the program quit working, but the version that I installed that you listed above caused weird mouse stutters and stutters in the sim, it also messed with Ezdok for some reason. Do you have any idea as to what my problem is? What infuriates me is that I was literally flying in my sim last night, exited it to restart another flight and clear the VAS for it, clicked on the P3D.exe and it owuldnt even show the splash screen, I then use the link above after searching for hours to fix this and new problems arise, I then use the new FSUIPC download and now the sim starts but goes no further than the splash screen... this is why I hate software and work with hardware. Easton Williams Edited April 13, 2017 by Easton Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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