FBW Reverse Thrust with Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog

[katoema]

Hi John, Pete: I have FSUIPC7 set up for reverse thrust for all planes that have reverse thrust, with it being used since MSFS2020 came out. I don't use separate plane profiles for this and I am happy with it.

I have had long conversations with FBW's support on Discord about this and they say to use their guides etc. But their throttle calibration guide does not provide information on my Hotas Warthog. I can set it up as a normal throttle, no problem, but it cannot take into account the necessity to lift the throttle up and put it over the bar to activate reverse thrust, like it does for all other aircraft that has reverse thrust.

Can you help with this please?

Thanks

martin

[John Dowson]

Hi Martin,

I'm not sure... I know the FBW A320 has its own throttle config and calibration (through the flypad, and/or via a ThrottleConfiguration.ini file, although I haven't looked at this for quite a while. I am away tomorrow and back at work on Monday, so I'll take a look at this next week and get back to you.

In the mean time, maybe/hopefully some other Warthog owners / FBW flyers can assist...

John
 

[katoema]

Hi John, thanks for that. I'll put a feeler out on Avsim for that too.

Martin

[John Dowson]

On 10/21/2021 at 8:30 PM, katoema said:

I'll put a feeler out on Avsim for that too.

Yes, I see you have quite a few responses there....but still no satisfactory solution....
Unfortunately I have nothing further to add to the responses you have received there. Not having this throttle, I cannot really advise any further than the responses you have already received. 

There is this oldish post, but also no clean solution by the looks of it: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/is-it-possible-to-set-the-hotas-warthog-to-thrust-reverse/385899

As you only have this issue with the FBW A320, I would have thought that it should be the FBW team looking into this.

Cheers,

John

[katoema]

The funny thing is that all was working well with being able to use the FBW, like I have been doing with other planes. Since they now use their EFB for calibrations, I've lost it.

To move on you will have read I can now simulate the reverse thrust, but the FBW doesn't move with the parking brake off, I had taken these two issues up with FBW support, but they say it is not a problem for them!

If I can get the plane to move, I would then see if reverse thrust does work. Having said that, I now cannot get any plane to reverse thrust, that has it. I set this up some time ago with FSUIPC4 and followed your instructions to transfer to FSUIPC7 and it had been working for 4, and 2 engine planes with no issues. Now I can't, so not sue if it is a SU5 issue.

If you want to see the .ini file, let me know and I will do it later, as I have a follow up at hospital today after my brain surgery

Thanks

Martin

 

[John Dowson]

1 hour ago, katoema said:

If I can get the plane to move, I would then see if reverse thrust does work. Having said that, I now cannot get any plane to reverse thrust, that has it. I set this up some time ago with FSUIPC4 and followed your instructions to transfer to FSUIPC7 and it had been working for 4, and 2 engine planes with no issues. Now I can't, so not sue if it is a SU5 issue.

Do you mean the SU6 update (the latest one)?
Strange - I thought you said it was still working for other aircraft.... If its now working now in any aircraft, maybe start bt looking at getting this working again in a simpler/stock aircraft. 

1 hour ago, katoema said:

If you want to see the .ini file, let me know and I will do it later,

Sure, please show me your ini file. Also, activate logging for Events and Axis controls, and produce a short log where you load an aircraft and try to apply reverse thrust.

Regards,

John

[John Dowson]

Oh, and make sure that you are using the latest version of FSUIPC7, v7.2.11.

John

[katoema]

Hi John, done a quick flight using the Asobo A320 Neo. Reverse Thrust didn't happen!

 

I've attached a short version of the log and the ini file.

Thanks

Martin

FSUIPC7.ini FSUIPC7.logpartial.txt

[katoema]

I forgot to say that in other planes reverse thrust was working prior to SU6. Since then I had been working in H146 (helicopter) and the FBW.

I am looking at getting the Asobo A320Neo to use reverse thrust!

Martin

 

[John Dowson]

On 10/25/2021 at 9:45 PM, katoema said:

I've attached a short version of the log and the ini file.

But the ini you posted shows that you have no axes assignments configured at all in FSUIPC7!
Have you assigned your axis in MSFS? Have you tried to configure via FSUIPC7?

John

 

[katoema]

Hi John, I don't understand, I haven't altered FSUIPC7 at all since compiling it for reverse thrust over a year ago. Ah! On a FSUIPC update it is quite possible that I didn't backup my ini file which had the configuration on it. I don't remember how to configure it and now don't have a long memory retention or attention span since my brain operation. It's a side effect of the op, and my surgeon has said the op needs to be repeated in the next 6 months.

I would need someone to set out instructions of what to do to set up FSUIPC7 again, as my mind is a blank right now.

Thanks

Martin

[John Dowson]

3 hours ago, katoema said:

Ah! On a FSUIPC update it is quite possible that I didn't backup my ini file which had the configuration on it.

An FSUIPC update will not affect your FSUIPC7.ini file. Maybe you changed your installation location, and you have your old FSUIPC7.ini somewhere still in your old installation location. You could try searching your system to see if you can find any other FSUIPC7.ini files (Everything is a good tool for this, available here if you don't already have/use it).

3 hours ago, katoema said:

I would need someone to set out instructions of what to do to set up FSUIPC7 again, as my mind is a blank right now.

I am sorry but I cannot give you step-by-step instructions on how to do this, especially as I do not own a Thrustmaster Warthog. You really need to try and configure this yourself, and I get help if you have issues. Initially try following "THE EASY STEP-by-STEP WAY TO CALIBRATE YOUR CONTROLS" instructions on page 37 of the user manual initially.

Take into account this (from here) - I think this is the most important thing to understand when it comes to controlling reverse thrust:

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The cut-off detents on the HOTAS Warthog are actually buttons and not part of the axis, that’s why you can’t calibrate the detent. You have to either assign the buttons to Toggle Reverse Thrust, in which case you pull on to the detents to go into reverse thrust mode and then push back forward to increase the amount of reverse thrust, or assign them to Reduce Throttle, in which case you leave the throttle on the detent and will gradually go to full reverse thrust.

Given that, if you have an axes range below the detent, you could assign to the reduce throttle control when your axis enters the reverse range (below the detent). But it is difficult to give you exact instructions, not having this throttle to see how it actually behaves.

Also, before you start to assign your axes in FSUIPC7, you will need to remove the MSFS assignments. If you want to clear all assignments, you can create a new profile for your controllers in MSFS, which will, by default, be empty.

Sorry to here about your recent brain issues/operations. I wish you a full and quick recovery.

Regards,

John

P.S. I am thinking of purchasing a TM Warthog to help out with support, as it is one of the more common HOTAS controllers. If/when I do, I will hopefully be able to provide more detailed help. I will let you know if/when I do....

[katoema]

Thanks John, I will go through this, with downloading "Everything" now!.

Martin