MCP from VRInsight displays working with FSUIPC directly

[OVD]

Hi John,

This time I am wondering if it is possible to have working the displays of the MCP from VRInsight directly with FSUIPC (without other applications as LINDA that have this function too): HDG, ALT, V/S, CRS, transponder, radios...

Thank you!

[John Dowson]

If it works with LINDA, it should also work without, as that is built upon FSUIPC's lua facilities. See the appendix on VRInsight devices in the Advanced User guide, together with the additional document Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf.

John

[flightsimmer747]

2 hours ago, John Dowson said:

If it works with LINDA, it should also work without, as that is built upon FSUIPC's lua facilities. See the appendix on VRInsight devices in the Advanced User guide, together with the additional document Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf.

John

Im experiencing issues though for the fbw 320, the knobs are not syncing it very jumpy or sticky stays at an altitude with no movements 

Hvars 220 lvars 1600

With or without linda my mcp responds the same way on all planes add ons; need to test default planes

[John Dowson]

Not sure what you mean or what FSUIPC has to do with this....

[flightsimmer747]

I give up with my mcp combi $600 piece if equipment not working right,  not all clickable buttons working, spd and hdg not synced to cockpit, just a mess takes away from enjoying fsim.

[John Dowson]

This really should be possible....maybe take a look at these posts for other VRInsight devices

 

John

[flightsimmer747]

Hi John, 

 

This has given me hope, thank you.

I hope this will work with msfs and the fbw a320.

Definately something to look into, sound like its possible, i was using Linda but no success with the mcp combi.

[flightsimmer747]

What i dont understand is if i can use program fsuipc only to control my mcp without needing linda. Im not seeing where my issue is with the knobs not syncing, they move just at a bad interval. 

If i change heading in sim it syncs with mcp, if i turn knob im no longer synced at times by 40deg or 40 kts, totally unflyable

[John Dowson]

How are these knobs assigned? Do they work as expected when using Linda? If you can share how they are assigned, I can take a look. Also try activating logging for Events to see if that reveals anything. If using the FBW A320, many of the standard FS controls don't work as expected - check to see if there are any presets for the functions you want to implement on the HubHop preset site https://hubhop.mobiflight.com/presets/

 

[John Dowson]

Maybe try posting for further information in that User Contribution topic: VRInsight MCP Combo and FSUIPC Lua scripting, as that seems to be what you are looking for.

Maybe also see: https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-forum/pmdg-737-for-msfs/187760-vrinsight-mcp-combo-fsuipc-nothing-with-the-new-pmdg-737

John

[flightsimmer747]

4 hours ago, John Dowson said:

Maybe try posting for further information in that User Contribution topic: VRInsight MCP Combo and FSUIPC Lua scripting, as that seems to be what you are looking for.

Maybe also see: https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-forum/pmdg-737-for-msfs/187760-vrinsight-mcp-combo-fsuipc-nothing-with-the-new-pmdg-737

John

Is it ok do revive a post from 2011, im ok with doing just want to make sure.

[John Dowson]

No harm in trying/posting, event though its an old post, and you can also try tagging the post's author (using the @ notation). But it seems that the author went on to use LINDA for managing his lua scripts anyway... Did you look at the documentation and scripts he provided - you could use that as a starting point and update to MSFSFBWA320, as the scripts were written for FSX and PMDG.

You may need to update the script to use/call presets rather than controls (custom or otherwise). See the HubHop site for a list of available presets available (https://hubhop.mobiflight.com/presets/).

For any further assistance, you need to show me how you are currently assigning, together with a log file showing any issues.

John

[flightsimmer747]

Thanks, im mot assigning anything as a module was created for the fbw. I am attempting to use Linda but they dont have the mcp combo panel so not much support understandably. Im trying to find users that got it working. Im even willing to buy pmdg if the panel works with their aircraft.

I currently own a mcp combo 1 and a cdu2, both of which worked flawlessly with a tool called serialfp2. Equipment costed almost $1000. It worked with pmdg and level d back in the day in fsx.

I have used fsuipc for many different things registered version over the years. Ive been away from simming due to family matters. Now im back and seeing lots has changed, some good some for the bad. My first attempt is to get a working plane with my hardware.

[John Dowson]

Understood. But if its working with FSX, I don't see why it won't work with MSFS. The main difference between the two, for control/assignment purposes, is that many aircraft in MSFS, particularly add-ons, don't use the standard controls, and any custom controls used by aircraft in FSX will be different in MSFS. It should be just a matter of updating the controls you used in FSX to whatever works for the aircraft you are using un MSFS, whether it custom controls, lvars, hvars or presets. The basic plumbing should be the same - except maybe if previously using any 32-bit drivers you would need to switch to 64-bit, but hopefully that is not the case.

Many folks are having difficulties controlling MSFS aircraft, especially the more complex add-ons. You should really be looking to use the available presets for such aircraft, and update your FSX scripts to use those.

[flightsimmer747]

I could not agree more, ill try a few more things, maybe a question for you, by presets you do mean a module that was created for the specific aircraft right?

I am using a module which apparently was designed with the mcp combo panel 2. All works vua Linda with fsuipc running but my spd and hdg rotate waaaay too fast for smooth changes, once that happens it is no longer synced unless i manually change the speed with the mouse in the cockpit.

I know im close to figuring it out but out of options.

I use latest fsuipc, latest linda, fbw latest module loaded via linda. I made all necessary changes in ini file. Installed linda in fsuipc folder. I added the event files in the folder and added it in the ini as well. I have 1600 lvars and 220 hvars, no errors in linda, fsuipc also running smoothly. 

Then i load msfs first fsuipc 2nd or autoconnect then linda. Sitting in the cockpit i move the hdg and bang all goes down the drain! Hdg moves out of sync after say 5 deg left or right, just seems the knob movements are too sensitive. Spd is the same 

[John Dowson]

25 minutes ago, flightsimmer747 said:

I could not agree more, ill try a few more things, maybe a question for you, by presets you do mean a module that was created for the specific aircraft right?

No. A preset is a label that identifies a calculator code string. You assign to a preset and when that preset is called, the corresponding calculator code is executed. I have mentioned this several times now and provided you with a link to the HubHop preset list (it is also mentioned in many places in the documentation), Uf you want to control aircraft in MSFS, you should familiarise yourself with presets. Look at the WASM section of the Advanced user guide, and the MF HubHop site. 

29 minutes ago, flightsimmer747 said:

I am using a module which apparently was designed with the mcp combo panel 2. All works vua Linda with fsuipc running but my spd and hdg rotate waaaay too fast for smooth changes, once that happens it is no longer synced unless i manually change the speed with the mouse in the cockpit.

If you are using LINDA, you are better off with support from LINDA. I do not support LIINDA. Have you asked there?

30 minutes ago, flightsimmer747 said:

Then i load msfs first fsuipc 2nd or autoconnect then linda. Sitting in the cockpit i move the hdg and bang all goes down the drain! Hdg moves out of sync after say 5 deg left or right, just seems the knob movements are too sensitive. Spd is the same 

Again, if you are using LINDA, please use their support channel.

If this is assigned in FSUIPC not using LINDA, disable LINDA and show me your FSUIPC files showing the configuration and the error.

[flightsimmer747]

2 minutes ago, John Dowson said:

No. A preset is a label that identifies a calculator code string. You assign to a preset and when that preset is called, the corresponding calculator code is executed. I have mentioned this several times now and provided you with a link to the HubHop preset list (it is also mentioned in many places in the documentation), Uf you want to control aircraft in MSFS, you should familiarise yourself with presets. Look at the WASM section of the Advanced user guide, and the MF HubHop site. 

If you are using LINDA, you are better off with support from LINDA. I do not support LIINDA. Have you asked there?

Again, if you are using LINDA, please use their support channel.

If this is assigned in FSUIPC not using LINDA, disable LINDA and show me your FSUIPC files showing the configuration and the error.

Linda wont support it without having the mcp panel 1 but if it can work without linda im willing to try at this point nothing to lose. As for hubhop i have no idea what it is or does yet so not able to mess with it until i learn it. I guess i need to if i want to use fsuipc without linda. Sorry but im not a programmer so i wanted a plug and play module or preset.

[flightsimmer747]

**update** 

 

Default aircraft hdg and spd now running smoothly, now need to figure out fbw something is up, any other ideas, yes im using linda but limited support, ill try asking there again!

[John Dowson]

22 minutes ago, flightsimmer747 said:

yes im using linda but limited support, ill try asking there again!

If using LINDA, then you need to use LINDA support. I cannot help if using LINDA.

23 minutes ago, flightsimmer747 said:

Default aircraft hdg and spd now running smoothly, now need to figure out fbw

As I keep telling you, standard controls do not work for many add-on aircraft (and even some default aircraft). For example, for the hdg in the FBWA320, the HubHob site shows these presets (amongst others): HDG Increase,  HDG Decrease. These are using the FBWA320 custom controls:
    (>K:A32NX.FCU_HDG_INC)
    (>K:A32NX.FCU_HDG_DEC)

However, there is already a LINDA module for the FBW A320 in MSFS -  see https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/599979-a32nx-linda-module-msfs/
I presume the LINDA module for this aircraft will be using the correct controls....

John

[flightsimmer747]

11 minutes ago, John Dowson said:

If using LINDA, then you need to use LINDA support. I cannot help if using LINDA.

As I keep telling you, standard controls do not work for many add-on aircraft (and even some default aircraft). For example, for the hdg in the FBWA320, the HubHob site shows these presets (amongst others): HDG Increase,  HDG Decrease. These are using the FBWA320 custom controls:
    (>K:A32NX.FCU_HDG_INC)
    (>K:A32NX.FCU_HDG_DEC)

However, there is already a LINDA module for the FBW A320 in MSFS -  see https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/599979-a32nx-linda-module-msfs/
I presume the LINDA module for this aircraft will be using the correct controls....

John

I can confirm the module is not working with my mcp 1, i still get the issues.

Where i would like help is if fsuipc can slow down the speed of the rotating knobs, also if i can achieve a functional mcp panel without linda be my guest ill follow any recommendations.

Again default planes work with or without linda, so i need support without linda if thats what you can provide 

Having said that if fsuipc has nothing to do with this i apologize and will post in another forum. The way i see it is fsuipc is the brain behind it!

[John Dowson]

13 hours ago, flightsimmer747 said:

Again default planes work with or without linda, so i need support without linda if thats what you can provide 

Having said that if fsuipc has nothing to do with this i apologize and will post in another forum. The way i see it is fsuipc is the brain behind it!

As I have said several times, I do not support LINDA. Use the LINDA support forum: 
    https://www.avsim.com/forums/forum/429-linda-support/

John

[flightsimmer747]

8 hours ago, John Dowson said:

As I have said several times, I do not support LINDA. Use the LINDA support forum: 
    https://www.avsim.com/forums/forum/429-linda-support/

John

Ok lets forget Linda, what guide do i need to follow to install via fsuipc to get the fbw up and running. Lvars are loaded and hvars as well

I wont use Linda and ill test with fsuipc. I also tried axis and ohs.

Im really trying everything!

[John Dowson]

I think LINDA is your easiest option, but if you don't want to use LINDA then you will have to write your own lua scripts to handle your VRInsight MCP.
As I don't have this device, I cannot help you with this. I have already referenced some posts by other users who have written lua scripts for this device - try using them as a starting point and updating the controls used to the ones needed for the aircraft you are using. If you need help with a specific control, I can assist with that.

John

[flightsimmer747]

1 hour ago, John Dowson said:

I think LINDA is your easiest option, but if you don't want to use LINDA then you will have to write your own lua scripts to handle your VRInsight MCP.
As I don't have this device, I cannot help you with this. I have already referenced some posts by other users who have written lua scripts for this device - try using them as a starting point and updating the controls used to the ones needed for the aircraft you are using. If you need help with a specific control, I can assist with that.

John

Sounds good thanks