Trying to get the tiller working

[kaha]

Somehow I run into problems when setting up the tiller. I'm using the DHC-4 Caribou for my tests.

All button and axis assignments in my setup are done with FSUIPC, I have none in MSFS. As soon as I assign the tiller axis the rudder stops moving. What am I missing here? For now I don't want any blending between front wheel and rudder (will set this up later per aircraft).

Karl

 

FSUIPC7 ini.zip

[kaha]

Sorry John, gust lock was on.

I'm gettin old.......

[kaha]

Ok, this now working I still have troubles to set up the tiller.

I want the tiller to move the front wheel but also the rudder. The rudder should move least at low ground speed and most at high ground speed. Therefor I use

MaxSteerSpeed = Q

The rudder shows max deflection at low speed and least deflection at high speed, however.

Also, if I change anything in the steering axis calibration the MaxSteerSpeed parameter gets reset to =60

 

FSUIPC7 ini.zip

[John Dowson]

20 minutes ago, kaha said:

I want the tiller to move the front wheel but also the rudder. The rudder should move least at low ground speed and most at high ground speed. Therefor I use

MaxSteerSpeed = Q

The rudder shows max deflection at low speed and least deflection at high speed, however.

Can you please set logging for Axes Controls, and also log offsets 0C08 and 0C0A, both as S16 (and log to normal log file) and show me a FSUIPC7.log file.

1 hour ago, kaha said:

Also, if I change anything in the steering axis calibration the MaxSteerSpeed parameter gets reset to =60

Thats strange - I will check this. Note that you have a profile-specific calibration section for the DHC-4 - were you looking there? It is still set to Q in the ini you attached.
Strange that the first image you posted shpws the general calibration section though, and not the profile-specific one. Did you make this profile-specific after attaching that image?

I don't have the DHC-4, but I will check this in another aircraft.

You should also consider changing your aircraft names in the profiles to use substrings, so that they catch mpre variants. e.g. change

Quote

[Profile.Bird Dog]
1=Cessna L-19 Bird Dog CIVIL Amphibian
2=Cessna L-19 Bird Dog City LImits

to

Quote

[Profile.Bird Dog]
1=Cessna L-19 Bird Dog

and update the other aircraft names in your profile sections to use substring matching.

John

[kaha]

Here we go.

 

FSUIPC7 log.zip

[John Dowson]

Ah...I think you are misunderstanding FSUIPC's rudder/tiller blending facilities. These are intended to be used when both the rudder and tiller are assigned to the same axis.
It doesn't make sense blending these if separate axes are used as there are already separate values for rudder and tiller.

1 hour ago, kaha said:

The rudder shows max deflection at low speed and least deflection at high speed, however.

That is strange - it should show the deflection that you apply (once calibration has been applied)....

[kaha]

29 minutes ago, John Dowson said:

Ah...I think you are misunderstanding FSUIPC's rudder/tiller blending facilities. These are intended to be used when both the rudder and tiller are assigned to the same axis.
It doesn't make sense blending these if separate axes are used as there are already separate values for rudder and tiller.

 

I see. So what would I have to do to get the following:

- nose wheel steers with tiller but not with rudder

- rudder deflects with pedals but not with tiller

 

This works if I bind the tiller to the in sim "Nose Wheel Steering Axis" control. I also tested with the standard Cessna Citation Longitude.

[John Dowson]

1 minute ago, kaha said:

So what would I have to do to get the following:

- nose wheel steers with tiller but not with rudder

- rudder deflects with pedals but not with tiller

You should only use the direct SteeringTiller axis if you want to blend with the rudder (and then assign to the same axis as rudder)

If you are using separate axes and don't want any blending, you can try assigning using 'Send to FS as normal axis' and try either the Axis Steering Set and Steering Set axes. You can still calibrate. Axis Steering Set seems to work fine in the longitude.

Also no issues if you want to bind that axis in the sim.
 

[kaha]

Thank you, I will try that.

[kaha]

Ok, Axis Steering Set is fine.

Thank you,

Karl

[John Dowson]

No problem!

John