Throttle on Toag's helicopter

[Ron Attwood]

Me again. 🙄 Problem with helicopter throttle.

The sims assignment for throttle is SET_HELICOPTER_THROTTLE 1_AXIS which works.

FSUIPC7's is AXIS_HELICOPTER_THROTTLE 1_SET doesn't work 

Why not use the sims assignment then? I hear you ask.

Because I loathe Asobo's mess. I want no part of it. FSUIPC handles everything.

I've been to Toag's Discord and they speak in coder's hieroglyphics. I have tried various other throttle settings in FSUIPC but no luck

Can you please shine a light on this?  

[John Dowson]

18 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said:

The sims assignment for throttle is SET_HELICOPTER_THROTTLE 1_AXIS which works.

FSUIPC7's is AXIS_HELICOPTER_THROTTLE 1_SET doesn't work 

There are multiple (helicopter) throttle axes - have you tried HELICOPTER_THROTTLE1_SET?
If there is only 1 throttle, also try HELICOPTER_THROTTLE_SET or maybe  AXIS_HELICOPTER_THROTTLE_SET

These are the (newish) helicopter axes available:

67526   HELICOPTER_THROTTLE_INC
67527   HELICOPTER_THROTTLE_DEC
67528   AXIS_HELICOPTER_THROTTLE_SET
67529   HELICOPTER_THROTTLE_SET
67530   HELICOPTER_THROTTLE_CUT
67531   HELICOPTER_THROTTLE_FULL
67532   HELICOPTER_THROTTLE1_INC
67533   HELICOPTER_THROTTLE1_DEC
67534   AXIS_HELICOPTER_THROTTLE1_SET
67535   HELICOPTER_THROTTLE1_SET
67536   HELICOPTER_THROTTLE1_CUT
67537   HELICOPTER_THROTTLE1_FULL
67538   HELICOPTER_THROTTLE2_INC
67539   HELICOPTER_THROTTLE2_DEC
67540   AXIS_HELICOPTER_THROTTLE2_SET
67541   HELICOPTER_THROTTLE2_SET
67542   HELICOPTER_THROTTLE2_CUT
67543   HELICOPTER_THROTTLE2_FULL
67544   AXIS_CYCLIC_LATERAL_SET
67545   AXIS_CYCLIC_LONGITUDINAL_SET
67546   CYCLIC_LATERAL_LEFT
67547   CYCLIC_LATERAL_RIGHT
67548   CYCLIC_LONGITUDINAL_DOWN
67549   CYCLIC_LONGITUDINAL_UP
 

[Ron Attwood]

I've tried everything that has AXIS, HELICOPTER, THROTTLE and SET in any order. None of them work. I'm think this is a Toag problem. Thanks for responding though. In the meantime I'll settle for starting on the runway! Shame, lovely helicopter though, the Lama.

Cheers John

[John Dowson]

You could also maybe try AXIS_COLLECTIVE_SET (the old helicopter throttle axis).

Also try looking at the input events to see if there is anything there that controls the throttle. If there are any input events available (the number of input events available is logged in FSUIPC's main window), first list them (Log->List Input Events), If there is anything that looks applicable, log input event changes (Log->Input Events) and turn the throttle in the VC and see what is logged, and get the max/min values for the input event. If anything exists, I can show you how to use this to assign to your axis.

You can also check for lvars to see if there is anything there that looks throttle related.

John

[Ron Attwood]

AXIS Collective set got my hopes up then dashed them! 😀 The daft thing is that the lever doesn't react to the mouse except when the engine is running. This is so frustrating, it's not as if I'm asking for anything exotic. 

The bottom line is that I don't understand LVARS and the all the other exciting things you chaps take as ordinary. I need to be talked to like a 5yo. 😕 

I really do appreciate your taking the time, but I'll just content myself with what I've got. By tomorrow I'll probably have forgotten all about bloody helicopters anyway. Dangerous things!

[John Dowson]

1 minute ago, Ron Attwood said:

The bottom line is that I don't understand LVARS and the all the other exciting things you chaps take as ordinary. I need to be talked to like a 5yo. 😕 

Its not that difficult and I can show you how to use these things, if they are available. I don't have this helicopter so you just need to follow my instructions to let me know if there are any input events available (I already showed you what to do for this) or any appropriate lvars (just list them using Add-ons->WASM->List Lvars and then show me / attach your FSUIPC7.log file).

5 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said:

I really do appreciate your taking the time, but I'll just content myself with what I've got. By tomorrow I'll probably have forgotten all about bloody helicopters anyway. 

Up to you, but assignments to lvars/hvars/input events are getting more and more common with add-ons and it is worth getting to know how to use these type of controls.
Worth at least taking a look - there may not be anything available anyway...

7 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said:

Dangerous things!

Yes - and certainly in my hands! I've not got far with trying to fly helicopters, but then I haven't spent much time in them either.

Cheers,

John

[John Dowson]

Btw, which of Toag's helicopters are you using?

[Ron Attwood]

Lama. It's pretty stable to fly without feeling dumbed down. Once you've got it started!