Sabrefly

How to downgrade FSUIPC properly? The installer doesn't want to overwrite an older file. I can roll back, but I wonder how to downgrade. Thanks, Igor

This is so unfortunate, P3Dv3.3.5 doesn't start with FSUIPC v4.965. Pete, could you fix it or it's unfixable? P3Dv3.4 hf3 is horrible vs P3Dv3.3.5 in managing VAS. Is it due to some changes you introduced to handle input devices, like you intended to in v4.962+ (or close to it?) but cancelled that time? Thanks, Igor. PS: I checked by disabling FSUIPC.dll in DLL.XML --> P3Dv3.3.5 launches OK

It's combination of many factors of course, but AI at 100% being the main one that suffocates the sim out of VAS and what not in certain scenarios. Set it at 30 and I can fly all day long with the same settings and sceneries. Thanks, Igor.

There was a thread on avsim discussing your new Limiter with references to the same, so the consensus was about 40% was good enough. Try Imaginesim KATL with 40% Airliene slider and you won't get into the scenario either. It's all VAS related, even though it might show some decent VAS available, there's no continuous free block left when AI slider is too high at launch. PS: Sorry about the AI Traffic sliders Controls available in FSUIPC, I recall I even used some of them. Now I need to work them from a wideclient... (Traffic Density Set) PPS: Why I'd like traffic sliders at 100% and control the number in FUSIPC Limiter - there's better chance I'll see more rare flights = more variety. I have just tried our beloved EGLL /UK2000 at 100% - and it loads ok, what a design!! :D

This is P3D, same was in FSX-SE. try to load AI at 100% in say FSDT LAX, FTX SCA with Scenery DENSE, Autogen Dense, Trees Dense. Never worked here, I can load a scenario at 40% max even a little less only. Igor. Pete, try to launch P3D with 100% traffic in a PMDG or even AS Airbus in FSDT KJFK v2 with high GFX settings and some wx clouds, and you won't even get into the scenario. But please don't use your cockpit, you need a heavy VAS plane.

Guys, please note, in some dense areas and heavy ariports, like LA area, if you set the ingame sliders too high, then no matter what you limit is in FSUIPC the scenario will crash right at the start. I've seen it in many airports, partly with some of them due to poor design. But this is a serious factor, unfortunately. I wish I could keep my ingame traffic sliders at 100%and limit the number of AI in FSUIPC only or could change them dynamically without going to P3D's UI. Igor. PS: MT6 here and I'm speaking about add-on planes, areas and airport at mid to high gfx settings.

Lol, "Not now" works much better!! But I've always thought the installer needs to check if I have a valid registration therefore I've always picked it for both FSUIPC & WideClient Thanks, Igor.

Normally I always choose: Check existing registrations then tick Both, so have no doubt. I have done it this way time out of mind. I have just realized what you told me there, will try it right now. Thanks, Igor.

In the very end of the installation I get this message: Error: No WideFS entry to check. No FSUIPC entry to check. (Code 48) All works good though. Thanks! Igor.

Awesome, thanks! Igor.

********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.963f (28th February 2017) by Pete Dowson ********* Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit reported as Build 14393, Release ID: 1607 (OS 10.0) Prepar3D.exe version = 3.3.5.17625 Reading options from "F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini" Running inside Prepar3D v3 on Windows 10 Module base=55E40000 User Name="Igor Petrov" User Addr="petrovigor@umail.ru" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WideFS7 Key is provided 0 System time = 01/03/2017 00:23:42 0 FLT UNC path = "\\I6\Prepar3D v3 Files\" 0 ------ Module Version Check ------ 0 acontain.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 api.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 controls.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 fs-traffic.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 G3D.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 language.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 sim1.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 visualfx.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 weather.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 window.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 ---------------------------------- 0 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 0 Found it: trying to connect 15 FS UNC path = "\\I6\Prepar3D v3\" 78 #### Initialising Dlrectinput Axis Scanning ... 78 EnumDevices: 0.GUID={C82A9610-1924-11E6-8001-444553540000} 78 EnumDevices: 1.GUID={6353CB80-18FC-11E6-8003-444553540000} 78 EnumDevices: 2.GUID={C82C6AD0-1924-11E6-8002-444553540000} 78 EnumDevices: 3.GUID={C87A3CB0-1924-11E6-8003-444553540000} 78 EnumDevices: 4.GUID={C87B2710-1924-11E6-8004-444553540000} 78 EnumDevices: 6.GUID={E21EB120-1927-11E6-8001-444553540000} 93 Entered EnumDevices callback ... 187 EnumDevices: found CH Control Manager Device 2 187 EnumDevices: GUID matches our device 0 Thanks, Igor.

v4.963f has been withdrawn, is a newer one coming? Thanks, v4.963f is still a problem, I'll post the log shortly.

Mark, please don't forget to share it here when it's ready, thanks! :) Igor.

PhugoidEffect, do you mind sharing your ready script here, thanks! Sabrefly

Thank you very much, Pete. Please let me know when you need further tests on Win10. Igor.

Strange, with all my joysticks and HIDs I've never had a problem with Win10 doesn't recognize or changes them Thank you! Igor.

It's almost the same,.Pete: ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.963e (27th February 2017) by Pete Dowson ********* Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit reported as Build 14393, Release ID: 1607 (OS 10.0) Prepar3D.exe version = 3.3.5.17625 Reading options from "F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini" Running inside Prepar3D v3 on Windows 10 Module base=57760000 User Name="Igor Petrov" User Addr="petrovigor@umail.ru" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WideFS7 Key is provided 16 System time = 27/02/2017 22:54:33 16 FLT UNC path = "\\I6\Prepar3D v3 Files\" 16 ------ Module Version Check ------ 16 acontain.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 api.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 controls.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 fs-traffic.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 G3D.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 language.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 sim1.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 visualfx.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 weather.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 window.dll: 3.3.5.17625 16 ---------------------------------- 16 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 16 Found it: trying to connect 16 FS UNC path = "\\I6\Prepar3D v3\" 94 #### Initialising Dlrectinput Axis Scanning ... 94 EnumDevices: 0.GUID={C82A9610-1924-11E6-8001-444553540000} 94 EnumDevices: 1.GUID={6353CB80-18FC-11E6-8003-444553540000} 94 EnumDevices: 2.GUID={C82C6AD0-1924-11E6-8002-444553540000} 94 EnumDevices: 3.GUID={C87A3CB0-1924-11E6-8003-444553540000} 94 EnumDevices: 4.GUID={C87B2710-1924-11E6-8004-444553540000} 94 EnumDevices: 6.GUID={E21EB120-1927-11E6-8001-444553540000} 109 Entered EnumDevices callback ... 203 EnumDevices: found CH Control Manager Device 2 203 EnumDevices: GUID matches our device 0 Thanks!

This one is longer now: ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.963d (27th February 2017) by Pete Dowson ********* Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit reported as Build 14393, Release ID: 1607 (OS 10.0) Prepar3D.exe version = 3.3.5.17625 Reading options from "F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini" Running inside Prepar3D v3 on Windows 10 Module base=565C0000 User Name="Igor Petrov" User Addr="petrovigor@umail.ru" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WideFS7 Key is provided 0 System time = 27/02/2017 21:53:16 0 FLT UNC path = "\\I6\Prepar3D v3 Files\" 0 ------ Module Version Check ------ 0 acontain.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 api.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 controls.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 fs-traffic.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 G3D.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 language.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 sim1.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 visualfx.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 weather.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 window.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 ---------------------------------- 0 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 16 Found it: trying to connect 16 FS UNC path = "\\I6\Prepar3D v3\" 78 #### Initialising Dlrectinput Axis Scanning ... 78 EnumDevices: 0.GUID={C82A9610-1924-11E6-8001-444553540000} 78 EnumDevices: 1.GUID={6353CB80-18FC-11E6-8003-444553540000} 78 EnumDevices: 2.GUID={C82C6AD0-1924-11E6-8002-444553540000} 78 EnumDevices: 3.GUID={C87A3CB0-1924-11E6-8003-444553540000} 78 EnumDevices: 4.GUID={C87B2710-1924-11E6-8004-444553540000} 78 EnumDevices: 6.GUID={E21EB120-1927-11E6-8001-444553540000} 94 EnumDevices: found CH Control Manager Device 2 94 EnumDevices: GUID matches our device 0

Right, I meant 16 USB devices, 6 of them are joysticks and the rest are GoFlight panels and VRINSIGHT FCU Airbus. Thanks,

This is the newer log: ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.963c (27th February 2017) by Pete Dowson ********* Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit reported as Build 14393, Release ID: 1607 (OS 10.0) Prepar3D.exe version = 3.3.5.17625 Reading options from "F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini" Running inside Prepar3D v3 on Windows 10 Module base=567C0000 User Name="Igor Petrov" User Addr="petrovigor@umail.ru" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WideFS7 Key is provided 0 System time = 27/02/2017 20:26:09 0 FLT UNC path = "\\I6\Prepar3D v3 Files\" 0 ------ Module Version Check ------ 0 acontain.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 api.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 controls.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 fs-traffic.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 G3D.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 language.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 sim1.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 visualfx.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 weather.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 window.dll: 3.3.5.17625 0 ---------------------------------- 0 Trying F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 0 Found it: trying to connect 0 FS UNC path = "\\I6\Prepar3D v3\" 78 #### Initialising Dlrectinput Axis Scanning ... Thanks,

This is what I run alongside, nothing else: [General] Debug=Please LogExtras=x200000 UpdatedByVersion=4963c History=BTCKA6KU9SEWPUDSBVO9C InitDelayDevicesToo=No Annotate=Yes NewInterceptTextMenu=No UseSystemTime=No UseMidMouseBtn=Yes MouseWheelMove=No MouseWheelTrim=No MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1 JoystickTimeout=20 PollGFTQ6=Yes BlankDisplays=No FixControlAccel=No FixMachSpeedBug=No NewDeleteVehiclesForAES=No AutoScanDevices=Yes AssignJoystickIDs=Yes VisibilityOptions=No OneCloudLayer=No CloudTurbulence=No CloudIcing=No GenerateCirrus=No SuppressCloudTurbulence=No MaxIce=-4 MinIce=-4 UpperWindGusts=No SuppressWindTurbulence=No SuppressWindVariance=No WindTurbulence=No TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0 TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40 SuppressAllGusts=No MaxSurfaceWind=0 WindLimitLevel=200 WindDiscardLevel=400 WindAjustAltitude=No WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000 SmoothBySimTime=No WindSmoothing=No WindSmoothness=2 WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes PressureSmoothness=0 TemperatureSmoothness=0 DisconnTrimForAP=No ZeroElevForAPAlt=No ThrottleSyncAll=No WhiteMessages=No ShowPMcontrols=No SpoilerIncrement=512 MagicBattery=No RudderSpikeRemoval=No ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No AileronSpikeRemoval=No ReversedElevatorTrim=No ClockSync=No ClockSyncMins=5 ClearWeatherDynamics=No OwnWeatherChanges=No TimeForSelect=4 LoadFlightMenu=No LoadPlanMenu=No PauseAfterCrash=No BrakeReleaseThreshold=75 SaveDataWithFlights=No ZapSound=firework ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring UseProfiles=Yes EnableMouseLook=No DelayedMouseLookZoom=No AxesWrongRange=No TCASid=Flight TCASrange=40 AxisCalibration=No DirectAxesToCalibs=No ShowMultilineWindow=Yes SuppressSingleline=No SuppressMultilineFS=No AxisIntercepts=No DontResetAxes=No ThreadAffinityMask=x0 LuaAffinityMask=x0 InitDelay=0 GetNearestAirports=Yes OOMcheck=Yes OOMcheckInterval=10 WeatherReadFactor=2 WeatherRewriteSeconds=1 CustomWeatherModify=No SimConnectStallTime=20 InitialStallTime=10 NormalStallTime=1 LuaRerunDelay=66 Console=No LogOptionProtect=Yes TimeForLuaClosing=2 WideLuaGlobals=Yes [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=Yes A=CH Control Manager Device 2 B=Saitek P8000 C=CH Control Manager Device 1 D=CH Control Manager Device 4 E=CH Control Manager Device 3 F=F16 MFD 1 G=CH Throttle Quadrant USB H=CH Throttle Quadrant USB J=CH Pro Pedals USB K=CH Pro Throttle USB L=CH Fighterstick USB 1=Saitek P8000 1.GUID={6353CB80-18FC-11E6-8003-444553540000} 0=CH Control Manager Device 2 0.GUID={C82A9610-1924-11E6-8001-444553540000} 6=F16 MFD 1 6.GUID={E21EB120-1927-11E6-8001-444553540000} 2=CH Control Manager Device 1 2.GUID={C82C6AD0-1924-11E6-8002-444553540000} 3=CH Control Manager Device 4 3.GUID={C87A3CB0-1924-11E6-8003-444553540000} 4=CH Control Manager Device 3 4.GUID={C87B2710-1924-11E6-8004-444553540000} [Axes] PollInterval=10 RangeRepeatRate=10 0=AZ,256,D,4,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle }- 1=CX,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 2=CY,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- 3=DX,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 4=DY,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 5=DZ,256,D,3,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Rudder }- 6=ES,256,D,6,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture }- 7=ET,256,D,5,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: PropPitch }- [Buttons] PollInterval=25 ButtonRepeat=20,10 1=PB,0,K74,10 -{Key press: ctl+J}- 2=PB,7,C1009,0 -{traffic density toggle}- 4=UB,7,C1009,0 -{traffic density toggle}- 5=PB,31,C1092,0 -{Re-SimConnect}- 9=PB,12,C66846,0 -{BAROMETRIC_STD_PRESSURE}- 10=PB,11,C65584,0 -{BAROMETRIC}- 11=PB,27,C1085,0 -{traffic zapall}- 12=PB,20,C1079,0 -{traffic zapper}- 14=PB,14,K123,10 -{Key press: ctl+F12}- 15=RA,1,K48,10 -{Key press: ctl+0}- 16=PB,5,K69,9 -{Key press: shft+E}- 17=UB,5,K49,8 -{Key press: 1}- 18=PB,6,K69,9 -{Key press: shft+E}- 19=UB,6,K50,8 -{Key press: 2}- [AutoSave] Next=1 Interval=60 Files=10 SaveOnGround=No AutoSaveEnabled=No [GPSout] GPSoutEnabled=No [GPSout2] GPSoutEnabled=No [WideServer] WideFSenabled=Yes AdvertiseService=1 Port=8002 Port2=9002 [Sounds] Path=F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Sound\ Device1=Primary Sound Driver Device2=???????? (Realtek High Definition Audio) Device3=Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio) [Programs] [JoystickCalibration] AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16254,0,128,16127 SlopeAileron=2 Elevator=-16384,0,128,16255 SlopeElevator=1 Rudder=-16254,-512,512,16255 SlopeRudder=2 LeftBrake=-16384,4224/16 RightBrake=-16380,4992/16 Throttle=-12223,16383 PropPitch=-16384,16254 Mixture=-16384,16383 [ClientNames] 1=KAT 2=LENA 3=F4 [VRInsight] 1=com3 [Auto] 1=Lua ASAirbus [LuaFiles] 1=ipcReady 2=linda 3=ASAirbus [Profile.AS A320] 1=Airbus A320 British Airways G-EUUU 2=Airbus A319 British Airways BA-GDBCF 3=Airbus A321 British Airways G-EUXG 4=Airbus A320 British Airways G-GATK 5=Airbus A320 British Airways G-EUUK 6=Airbus A320 United Airlines N405UA [Window.LUA display] Docked=7352, 2745, 3549, 2470 [Profile.A2A C182T] 1=C182_N516DM [Window.Radar Contact] Docked=198, 2457, 3571, 1308 [MacroFiles] 2=E190 1=EMB190 3=EMB195 [Profile.E190] 1=Embraer 190 BA Cityflyer G-LCYL [Profile.E195] 1=Embraer 195 Britsh Airways CityFlyer (G-LCYZ) [Profile.LEGACY v2] 1=RealAir Lancair Legacy V2 N323DE [Traffic Limiter] TrafficLimit=250 AirportPreference=0 GroundPreference=0 NearerPreference=0 TargetFrameRate=0

No, same thing with FSUIPC4963c_TEST. I've noticed this time that P3D splash screen (standard) jumps inside into the desktop exactly when my GoFlight instruments light up! Thanks, Igor.

Downloading! Thanks.

See if you can see something unusual #1: Thanks!

I've turned off EZCA.exe in EXE.xml now it's not running, but same thing with Prepar3d, it just jumps into processes away from the screen and stays there! I think I saw a similar behavior when P3D didn't start with FSUIPC V4.960 or 61 (I can't remember now). Attached is Application log picture, I launched P3D at 6:58. No errors, but no P3D on the screen. Happens only in v4.396b