FSUIP3 Not Saving Specific Aircraft Settings

[fleahead]

I have with problem with 3.7.1 and 3.7.3 (registered). If I make key or button assignments with Aircraft Specific checked, nothing is saved in the fsuip.ini file. It is saving the general axis assignments. I also see misc changes such as wind smoothing being saved in the .ini file. I have no duplicate dll files in the modules folder.

jm

[Pete Dowson]

I have with problem with 3.7.1 and 3.7.3 (registered). If I make key or button assignments with Aircraft Specific checked, nothing is saved in the fsuip.ini file. It is saving the general axis assignments. I also see misc changes such as wind smoothing being saved in the .ini file. I have no duplicate dll files in the modules folder.

This is only just discovered in 3.71, a day or two after I released 3.73? You skipped 3.72?

The facilities seem okay here, and they haven't been changed for some time (version 3.70 last July, in fact). I really need more information, please. What is the "ShortAircraftNameOk" parameter set to in the INI file, for example.

Perhaps you could show me the FSUIPC.INI file in case there's something else specific in your settings?

Regards

Pete

[fleahead]

Thanks for the rapid response, Pete. I noticed this a few weeks ago in 3.7.1. I downloaded 3.7.3 yesterday, and I get the same problem. I have removed FSUIP.ini once to start a new one. Same results. I was assigning to Feelthere A319, but also tried assigning to PMDG 737 with no saving there either. Here is the last ini file I have tried. As you can see, it does record the buttons and keys of unspecified aircraft.

[Keys.]

1=80,8,66483,0

2=75,8,65733,0

3=80,8,66483,0

4=80,8,66483,0

5=107,9,65879,0

6=107,9,65879,0

7=107,10,65896,0

8=109,9,65880,0

10=107,10,65896,0

12=109,10,65897,0

14=45,8,66299,0

16=45,10,66298,0

[Axes]

0=0X,256,F,66387,0,0,0

1=0Y,256,F,66388,0,0,0

2=0Z,256,F,65764,0,0,0

3=1X,256,D,22,0,0,0

4=1Y,256

5=1Y,U,-4161,16383,66079,0

6=1Y,D,-16384,-9362,66080,0

7=1V,256,D,23,0,0,0

8=2X,256,F,65763,0,0,0

9=2Y,256,F,65762,0,0,0

10=2Z,256,F,65763,0,0,0

11=3X,256,F,65763,0,0,0

12=3Y,256,F,65762,0,0,0

13=3Z,256,F,65762,0,0,0

[General]

WindSmoothing=Yes

AutoTaxiWind=Yes

PropTaxiWind=No

TimeSetMode=Partial

WhiteMessages=No

ThrottleSyncAll=No

GraduatedVisibility=No

LowerVisAltitude=0

UpperVisAltitude=25000

UpperVisibility=6000

GenerateCirrus=Yes

WindShearSharp=No

UpperWindGusts=Yes

ExtendMetarMaxVis=Yes

PatchSimApAlt=Yes

DisconnTrimForAP=No

ZeroElevForAPAlt=No

AutoClearWeather=Yes

ExtendTopWind=Yes

WindSmoothness=5

SmoothPressure=Yes

PressureSmoothness=5

SmoothVisibility=No

VisibilitySmoothness=2

MaxSurfaceWind=0

WindLimitLevel=200

WindDiscardLevel=400

WindAjustAltitude=No

WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000

MinimumVisibility=0

MaximumVisibilityFewClouds=0

MaximumVisibility=0

MaximumVisibilityOvercast=0

MaximumVisibilityRainy=0

OneCloudLayer=No

ThinClouds=No

ThinThunderClouds=No

CloudThinness=1000

ThunderCloudThinness=10000

CloudTurbulence=No

CloudIcing=No

WindTurbulence=Yes

SuppressAllGusts=No

ExternalOptionControl=Yes

AutoTuneADF=No

KeepFS98CloudCover=No

ShowPMcontrols=No

MagicBattery=No

RudderSpikeRemoval=No

ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No

AileronSpikeRemoval=No

ReversedElevatorTrim=No

StopAutoFuel=No

TrapUserInterrupt=Yes

NavFreq50KHz=No

ClockSync=No

SmoothIAS=Yes

SetVisUpperAlt=No

VisUpperAltLimit=6000

MaxIce=3

MinIce=-1

WindSmoothingDelay=0

WindSmoothAirborneOnly=No

LimitWindVariance=No

VisSmoothingDelay=0

VisSmoothAirborneOnly=No

TrafficControlDirect=Yes

SuppressCloudTurbulence=No

SuppressWindTurbulence=No

SpoilerIncrement=512

ShortAircraftNameOk=No

TCASid=Flight

TCASrange=40

TrafficScanPerFrame=10

AxisCalibration=No

CentredDialogue=Yes

ShowMultilineWindow=Yes

SuppressSingleline=No

SuppressMultilineFS=No

ClearWeatherDynamics=No

OwnWeatherChanges=No

FixWindows=No

FixControlAccel=No

WeatherReadInterval=4

MoveBGLvariables=Yes

TimeForSelect=4

WeatherReadsFast=No

MainMenu=&Modules

SubMenu=&FSUIPC ...

History=4INIUJB4PZDEK813B6ZJ3

[JoystickCalibration]

ExclThrottleSet=Yes

SepRevsJetsOnly=No

ApplyHeloTrim=No

FlapsSetControl=0

FlapDetents=No

ReverserControl=66292

Reverser1Control=66422

Reverser2Control=66425

Reverser3Control=66428

Reverser4Control=66431

MaxThrottleForReverser=256

AileronTrimControl=0

RudderTrimControl=0

CowlFlaps1Control=0

CowlFlaps2Control=0

CowlFlaps3Control=0

CowlFlaps4Control=0

MaxSteerSpeed=60

Aileron=-16384,0,0,16256

SlopeAileron=4

Elevator=-16253,0,0,16128

SlopeElevator=3

Rudder=-16384,0,0,16128/8

SlopeRudder=15

LeftBrake=-16384,16256/16

RightBrake=-16384,16256/16

Spoilers=-16384,16383/16

Flaps=-16384,16383/16

[buttons]

1=R1,4,K107,8

2=R1,5,K109,8

3=R1,0,K107,10

4=R1,1,K109,10

5=R1,2,K107,9

6=R1,3,K109,9

7=R1,6,K107,12

8=R1,7,K109,12

[Keys]

2=79,8,66389,0

Jim

[Pete Dowson]

Thanks for the rapid response, Pete. I noticed this a few weeks ago in 3.7.1.

Oh dear. And you never thought to report it so it could be fixed in 3.72 (released in January), let alone before yet another major release? Please, things don't get fixed unless they are known about. Don't keep them to yourself! :-(

I downloaded 3.7.3 yesterday, and I get the same problem. I have removed FSUIP.ini once to start a new one. Same results. I was assigning to Feelthere A319, but also tried assigning to PMDG 737 with no saving there either. Here is the last ini file I have tried. As you can see, it does record the buttons and keys of unspecified aircraft.

I can reproduce a problem where the aircraft-specific Key presses seem to be saved in a section [Keys.] -- i.e. as if it is aircraft-specific but with the actual name missing. Weird. I can't make the same thing happen with Buttons, though.

I'll investigate this more thoroughly over the next few days. It seems odd that an error like this could have occurred in, presumably three major releases (3.71 dating from way back in November) with only one report, so late. Seems the facility is hardly used at all.

Please keep an eye on the Updates Announcements above. I'll make an interim release when I have it sorted out.

Thanks,

Pete

[Pete Dowson]

In your first eport you said:

If I make key or button assignments with Aircraft Specific checked, nothing is saved in the fsuip.ini file.

but in fact in the INI file you had this:

[Keys.]

1=80,8,66483,0

2=75,8,65733,0

3=80,8,66483,0

4=80,8,66483,0

5=107,9,65879,0

6=107,9,65879,0

7=107,10,65896,0

8=109,9,65880,0

10=107,10,65896,0

12=109,10,65897,0

14=45,8,66299,0

16=45,10,66298,0

This was the same result I managed to obtain -- "Keys." being aircraft-specific but with an empty name.

Anyway, I have found and fixed (I hope -- still testing) the problem with the Keys section, but I cannot make the Buttons, Axes or Calibrations sections fail. Can you please confirm that you really do have a problem with Buttons? If so I think I need even more information to work out why, as it seems pretty solid here.

Meanwhile I will send you 3.731 to test the fix to the Keys section on your system, just to be sure.

I think this affects the FSX version (FSUIPC4) as well, so I'd be grateful if you could let me know quite quickly, if possible, please.

It is a great pity these things always seem to come to light just after a major new release, not just before when they could have been included so much more tidily. :-(

Regards

Pete

[fleahead]

Hi Pete...

I downloaded 371 back in December and had no problems. I don't regularly check for new version releases, but after I noticed this problem, that's when I downloaded 373. I don't want to mislead you, but 371 was working at one time because I have the following lines in an older ini file:

[buttons.PSS Boeing 777-300ER QANTAS No VC]

0=P0,26,K90,14

1=P0,27,K88,14

[Monitor]

Display=1

Like I say, I just noticed this in 371 a few weeks ago. But like you are asking, I have only noticed this saving KEYS, so I'll go try a few specific aircraft buttons and axis changes, and get back in a few minutes...

Jim

[fleahead]

Yep... just as you confirmed... it appears to be only the KEYS that I see no aircraft specific header line created. I made an AXIS, BUTTON, and KEY aircraft specific entry for both a PSS 777 and the Feelthere Airbus, and only the KEY change did not create an entry in the ini file. I saw the AXIS and BUTTON change registered OK.

[fleahead]

OK Pete. 373.1 did the trick. I now see the KEY save registered in the ini file. I also verified the AXIS, BUTTON, and CALIBRATION is still OK. Thanks so much :lol:

[Pete Dowson]

OK Pete. 373.1 did the trick. I now see the KEY save registered in the ini file. I also verified the AXIS, BUTTON, and CALIBRATION is still OK. Thanks so much :lol:

Okay, that's good.

I'll do the same for FSUIPC4 and put both updates in the Download announcements at the top of the Forum.

Thanks,

Pete