pnog Posted April 7, 2007 Report Posted April 7, 2007 I'm making my throttle reversers with buttons, and is working fine but now I have to make the axis calibration to ignore the reverse. Could someone help me, because when I put the throttle on Idle it start rev. Regards Pedro
Pete Dowson Posted April 7, 2007 Report Posted April 7, 2007 I'm making my throttle reversers with buttons, and is working fine but now I have to make the axis calibration to ignore the reverse.Could someone help me, because when I put the throttle on Idle it start rev. How are you assigning and calibrating the throttles? FS's own assignments don't normally provide reverse on the THROTTLE axes. Are you using the FSUIPC Joystick Calibrations, with 2 or more separate throttles? if so, then you need to calibrate it so that the lower of centre pair of values (which denote the dle) are pretty much the same as the left-hand minimum value, which is for max reverse. The upper of the centre values then denotes the high end of your IDLE zone. If you cannot do this close enough, then either make the IDLE zone larger and devise a way to never bring the levers right back (some sort of block), or edit the throttle entries in the [JoystickCalibration] section of the FSUIPC.INI file after you've done it in the options screen as best you can. You'll see the numbers there. Just make the first two numbers the same, or, better, reduce them to -16394. Regards Pete
pnog Posted April 8, 2007 Author Report Posted April 8, 2007 Thanks for your fast answer. This is my actual configuration in fsuipc.ini Throttle1=-16255,-16253,-13253,16383 Throttle2=-16255,-16253,-13253,16383 Throttle3=-16255,-16253,-13253,16383 Throttle4=-16255,-16253,-13253,16383 With this config, the one that gives me better results, If I pull the levers very slow for Idle, it does not enter REV, but if I do it a little more faster it enters REV. With this configuration I don't like, but I can block mechanicly the levers and the problem is solved. There is not a way to disable REV via fsuipc ?? Many thanks. Pedro
Pete Dowson Posted April 8, 2007 Report Posted April 8, 2007 This is my actual configuration in fsuipc.ini Throttle1=-16255,-16253,-13253,16383 Throttle2=-16255,-16253,-13253,16383 Throttle3=-16255,-16253,-13253,16383 Throttle4=-16255,-16253,-13253,16383 With this config, the one that gives me better results, If I pull the levers very slow for Idle, it does not enter REV, but if I do it a little more faster it enters REV. It sounds like you have the throttles in non-linear time-based mode. You'd do better to follow the recommendations in my documentation, thus: For more predictable responses from your joystick, consider editing the FS CFG file and adding:STICK_SENSITIVITY_MODE=0 To the [CONTROLS] section. This makes FS treat the raw joystick readings in a linear fashion. By default, since FS2000, FS has applied a time-change formula to the axes that, in my opinion at least, which can give rise to some unwanted behaviour. You will need to edit the CFG file before running FS, as any changes you make whilst FS is running will be overwritten. Additionally, if you edited the INI file (as I suggested), so that the reverse range is impossible to get to, something like this: Throttle1=-16383,-16382,-13253,16383 Throttle2=-16383,-16382,-13253,16383 Throttle3=-16383,-16382,-13253,16383 Throttle4=-16383,-16382,-13253,16383 then it should never engage in any case. Additionally, I see that you have left no leeway at all at the MAX end of the range (16383 being the max possible), so if there is a slight variation in the values coming from the axes you may not always be able to reach MAX thrust. The whole point of using FSUIPC's more precise calibration is to get around typical FS problems like this. Try reducing that maximum input, by perhaps 256 or 512, to leave a little movement at the top. Unless your hardware is really always very precise, of course! ;-) Regards Pete
pnog Posted April 9, 2007 Author Report Posted April 9, 2007 Pete, Sorry my ignorance, but what is the name of the fs cfg file for fs2004 ?? Thanks... Pedro
Pete Dowson Posted April 9, 2007 Report Posted April 9, 2007 Sorry my ignorance, but what is the name of the fs cfg file for fs2004 ?? FS9.CFG. You'll find it in your Windows drive (C:\ usually) in Documents and Settings\\Application Data\Microsoft\FS9. Some of that may be different for a nonEnglish installation of Windows. Regards Pete
pnog Posted April 9, 2007 Author Report Posted April 9, 2007 nope, the same behaviour... I think I have to mechanically stop the levers. My FSUIPC.INI: [JoystickCalibration] ExclThrottleSet=No SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=0 RudderTrimControl=0 CowlFlaps1Control=0 CowlFlaps2Control=0 CowlFlaps3Control=0 CowlFlaps4Control=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Throttle1=-16383,-16382,-13253,16383 Throttle2=-16383,-16382,-13253,16383 Throttle3=-16383,-16382,-13253,16383 Throttle4=-16383,-16382,-13253,16383 FS9.cfg: [CONTROLS] KBDAIL=64 KBDELEV=64 KBDRUD=64 PAN_RATE=400 STICK_SENSITIVITY_MODE=0 Regards. Pedro
Pete Dowson Posted April 9, 2007 Report Posted April 9, 2007 nope, the same behaviour... You have something very peculiar going on there, then. What does the Calibration page show in the lever region where you get reverse? Can you show me some IN and OUT values, please? Pete
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