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Hi, Friends,

In addition to my first posting FSUIPC 3.75 here are the figures from the FSUIPC.ini.

[Axes.PSS A330-200 PW Lufthansa]

0=0Z,256

1=0Z,U,-11915,-8006,1070,107

2=0Z,U,1862,5958,1070,107

3=0Z,U,8192,11729,1070,107

4=0Z,U,14522,16383,1070,107

5=0Z,D,11729,13219,1070,109

6=0Z,D,5958,7633,1070,109

7=0Z,D,-7261,-6144,1070,109

8=0Z,D,-16384,-14693,1070,109

9=0R,256,D,36,0,0,0

The FS is the FS2004.

Regards

Horst

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In addition to my first posting FSUIPC 3.75 here are the figures from the FSUIPC.ini.

They are pretty meaningless on their own, aren't they? I didn't realise you weren't using the throttle as an Axis but as a series of key presses. Looks like you have four zones where you are sending a "NumPad+" key when the change is upwards, and four pressing a "Numpad-" key when the change is downward. Correct?

Is see that the extreme ranges in each case end in 16383 and -16363 respectively. That might be your problem, because thoseare the theoretical maximum and minimum values attainable -- they cannot be exceeded. In turn this would mean that the throttle movement can never move OUT of those zones in the right direction, so never actually operate the final Numpad+ or Numpad-.

Try to recalibrate the change positions with some free space at both extremes.

Regards

Pete

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Hi Pete,

thank you so much. I have to translate what you wrote, and that

would be difficult.

You are right the throttle in the PSS Airbus moves with Plus or Minus characters.

But the figures 16384 and -16384 are real if I move the throttle

from one end to the other the window in FSUIPC shows me that.

I will ask a friend to help me to translate what you wrote because

he is a teacher.

Thank you again and

Best regards

Horst

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But the figures 16384 and -16384 are real if I move the throttle

from one end to the other the window in FSUIPC shows me that.

Yes, but you need to calibrate INSIDE the range -- those figures need to be less. Otherwise you cannot move the leves beyond those values in order to trigger the key press.

There are other German English-speakers here sometimes. Maybe they can help.

Regards

Pete

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Hallo Pete,

again and again Thank you that your answers are comming so fast.

My Friend did translate your mail and he has got the following question.

You have written:

>>You need to calibrate for an output value of 0 (zero) at idel.<<

But how can I calibrate an output value of zero at idle position?

What I need is an FSUIPC OUT value of -16200 not at the end of the

potentiometer range (what is 23,6% N1 and an output value of zero) but at a

lever (and potentiometer) position that corresponds a FSUIPC value of

about -8200. How can I manage that?

At last I got a new problem when I copy the figures in the FSUIPC.ini

the rudder of the A330 is moving without using the pedals and most

of the time it is positioned on the right.

When I change the FSUIPC.ini to an file without Axes figures the rudder works exactly as it should. Now I am a little bit cofused. What is that?

Regards

Horst

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>>You need to calibrate for an output value of 0 (zero) at idel.<<

But how can I calibrate an output value of zero at idle position?

Oh dear. You are reading the answer to the first message, before you showed me you were not using the throttle lever as an axis (i.e. continuous throttle adjustments), but merely to send Key Presses to your aircraft. That is of course totally different and the business of setting a correct idle axis value (0) doesn't apply at all!

Please stick to this one thread otherwise you will get yourself very very confused!

What I need is an FSUIPC OUT value of -16200 not at the end of the potentiometer range (what is 23,6% N1 and an output value of zero) but at a lever (and potentiometer) position that corresponds a FSUIPC value of about -8200. How can I manage that?

I'm afraid I've no idea what you are talking about here. Your 2nd message seemed to show you wanted the throttle axis to send keystrokes, not axis values at all, so how come you now want axis values instead?

I'm afraid I've no idea how the aircraft you are trying to fly does anything. Have you tried asking the suppliers of the aircraft, or their support? Don't they supply any documentation on this stuff?

At last I got a new problem when I copy the figures in the FSUIPC.ini the rudder of the A330 is moving without using the pedals and most of the time it is positioned on the right. When I change the FSUIPC.ini to an file without Axes figures the rudder works exactly as it should. Now I am a little bit cofused. What is that?

No idea what you mean by "copy the figures". Why are you messing about in the INI file at all? Just use the on-line options pages.

If there is an axis which is moving control surfaces all on its own then it is broken. You have bad hardware. On the other hand if you have more than one assignment to the same axis, then they will conflict and cause the axis to alternate between the two inputs. Check for duplicated assignments.

Regards

Pete

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Hallo Pete,

thank you again for your answers. But I think there is no chance that I

can understand you because of my lack of English knowledge. At the

other way I'm not able exactly to explain what I mean respectively what

my problem is.

So I stopped my project "self build thtottle". It seems to be that there is no chance to realize the function of an Airbus throttle by FSUIPC. It is such a pity because I spend a lot of money for it.

But that is life somtimes I win sometimes I lose.

Regards

Horst

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So I stopped my project "self build thtottle". It seems to be that there is no chance to realize the function of an Airbus throttle by FSUIPC.

Well I'm sure that is not true. Others have done so. I would have hoped someone here might have been able to help. But have you asked in other Forums -- for instance the cockpit builders forum? Or a Forum for the Airbus models?

Regards

Pete

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Hallo Pete,

I hope that someone will read this postings und is able to help.

Yes, I posted this problem in another Forum which is called

“Homecockpit”. But the echo was very thin. One of the answers

was: It won’t do with FSUIPC. But I didn’t think so. There

were only two questions. Why are the engines in IDLE running with

48% N1 and why doesn’t the reverser working? The other positions

are working very precisely with the figures I posted. I got this figures

from a friend in Berlin and I copied the figures in the FSUIPC.ini.

I did only make a little correction in the lines. From 1Z I changed it in 0Z.

By the way I find out why the rudder didn’t work. I erased the lines

zero and nine. Look at my first posting and you will see what I mean.

The problem is it works now but I can’t explain it. Why is it working

If the both lines are erased?

So at the moment I dismantled the throttle. I have an idea how

to make the levers running more precisely from one to another

position.

Thank you Pete that give your answers so fast for trying to help.

Regards

Horst

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were only two questions. Why are the engines in IDLE running with

48% N1 and why doesn’t the reverser working?

When the engines are in "IDLE" at 48%, how do you know they are in IDLE? It doesn't seem likely -- surely 48% is too high? On Boeing aircraft the only way you know its "idle" is by

(a) the throttle lever is in the idle position and

(b) the N1% is low, like in the 20's, or at least decreasing towards that sort of value.

In your case, where is the throttle lever? Or don't you see one, just a set of switches?

If the throttle lever is not at its idle position then you need to calibrate it to move it there. For a normal axis-based analogue throttle the OUT value from FSUIPC's calibration would be 0 (zero) for that idle position. It sounds like yours is not.

I did notice that in your [Axes] section, shown earlier, you had no assignment to the throttle axis in FSX, only to those Numpad+ and Numpad- keypresses. I don't know how you control the throttle correctly with those alone I'm afraid, but evidently they are not enough to get you to Idle correctly.

The reason you cannot engage reverse is the same -- you have to reduce the throttle to idle first.

Maybe all the problems are nothing to do with your calibrations, but an error in the flight model you are using. Is it an add-on aircraft?

The other positions

are working very precisely with the figures I posted. I got this figures

from a friend in Berlin and I copied the figures in the FSUIPC.ini.

Does your friend in Berlin also have an idle of 48% and no reverse? If not, maybe he can help you solve this problem?

By the way I find out why the rudder didn’t work. I erased the lines

zero and nine. Look at my first posting and you will see what I mean.

The problem is it works now but I can’t explain it. Why is it working

If the both lines are erased?

The 0 line won't have changed anything. That merely sets the default increment on the throttle axis.

The 9 line was this:

9=0R,256,D,36,0,0,0

which appears to be assigning your Rudder axis to the Steering Tiller. If you have no other axis assigned for the rudder, then you won't have a rudder, only a steering tiller which only works at low speeds whilst on the ground. The steering tiller won't work unless you go into the FSUIPC calibrations and calibrate it.

You need an extra axis for a steering tiller, otherwise you have to use the rudder for both, as in FS default settings.

Regards

Pete

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Hi, Pete,

at the moment I can't do anything with the throttle because I am working on it.

But one answer to your question. The airliner is the A330 made by Phoenix Software (PSS) My friend in Berlin is using the same aircraft

software. You won't believe it. He has no problems with FSUIPC.

Its aircraft is working properly and the idle N1 ist 24% which is normal.

But we can't find out where is the difference between my PC and his.

We are using both the MS-Flightsimulator 2004 and FSUIPC 3.75

Hope I understand you right. Only the line 9 is reason for the strange

thing with the rudder. I asked my friend wether he is using the steering

tiller. No answer until now.

Regards

Horst

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My friend in Berlin is using the same aircraft

software. You won't believe it. He has no problems with FSUIPC.

Its aircraft is working properly and the idle N1 ist 24% which is normal.

But we can't find out where is the difference between my PC and his.

Probably your potentiometer output is not identical to his. These things do vary. This is why calibration is needed. Just using the same values in your INI as your friend is not going to work if different values are arriving from the throttle. I bet if you borrowed his throttle and used that it would work on your PC too.

Only the line 9 is reason for the strange

thing with the rudder.

Yes, because you assigned it to the steering tiller.

Pete

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  • 3 weeks later...

Hi, Pete,

now my airbus throttle is working well. I got an advice from a friend to install the tool named "Throttle" written by Josè Oliviera. This tool is working together with FSUIPC only. That was it. Now the throttle is

working like a real airbus throttle.

For all the flusi freaks which are reading this posting. If they are like to use a self made airbus throttle and they got problems with the thr-tool

and FSUIPC they can ask me. I will help with advices whenever I can.

At last I must say. The registered version FSUIPC is a must have for

flight simmers. Thank you Pete.

Regards

Horst

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now my airbus throttle is working well. I got an advice from a friend to install the tool named "Throttle" written by Josè Oliviera. This tool is working together with FSUIPC only. That was it. Now the throttle is

working like a real airbus throttle.

Good. Thanks for letting us know!

Regards

Pete

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