Inverted and jumpy controls

[rondon9897]

Hello guys,

I am a bit computer illiterate, and I don't understand FSUIPC very much. I have tried Digital Aviation website, but they can't help. I have a very strange problem.

I bought the DA F70/100 a few days ago, and I originally had the unregistered FSUIPC 4.something. However, when I started the Fokker up, the flight controls flapped and wiggled when they were applied. So for example, I put the elevators nose down and they wiggle furiously. Same with the elevators. And the speedbrake doesn't work. This is exactly the same in flight. The controls are also inverted. The plane is UNFLYABLE.

Today, I took the Fokker for a spin after hours of trying to get it to work, and took the FSUIPC module out of the modules folder, and the flight controls worked perfectly. HOWEVER, I don't think the DA Fokker's Autopilot can function without FSUIPC. Also, none of the control surfaces moved on the Visual flight model (exterior view another words) when FSUIPC was removed (though this didn't bother me too much).

So, I obviously NEED FSUIPC to operate the DA F100. But it works, (when flying manually) better without it.

That's why, even though I'm a computer dummy, I think it must be an FSUIPC problem, not a DA Fokker problem.

I'm using registered FSUIPC 4.3 (I think), with FSX and the Digital Aviation.

However, because only the F100 doesn't work and all my other aircraft do, you may think I'm in the wrong forum. But I need ALL THE HELP I CAN GET.

So PLEASE PLEASE help me.

Any thoughts on my waggly controls? Any at all? Help would be HUGELY appreciated. HUGELY. God will rain sweet manna upon you.

I'm counting on you guys

CJ 8)

[Pete Dowson]

I bought the DA F70/100 a few days ago, and I originally had the unregistered FSUIPC 4.something. However, when I started the Fokker up, the flight controls flapped and wiggled when they were applied. So for example, I put the elevators nose down and they wiggle furiously. Same with the elevators. And the speedbrake doesn't work. This is exactly the same in flight. The controls are also inverted. The plane is UNFLYABLE.

Today, I took the Fokker for a spin after hours of trying to get it to work, and took the FSUIPC module out of the modules folder, and the flight controls worked perfectly.

FSUIPC doesn't do anything at all regarding any flight controls, joysticks, etc, in an unregistered copy. None of the bad behaviour can possibly be due to FSUIPC itself. Perhaps the aircraft is using FSUIPC and does something different (wrongly, it sounds like) when it is installed compared to when it isn't?

HOWEVER, I don't think the DA Fokker's Autopilot can function without FSUIPC. Also, none of the control surfaces moved on the Visual flight model (exterior view another words) when FSUIPC was removed (though this didn't bother me too much).

I don't know this DA F70.100, so I've no idea what it does, but there is absolutely nothing in FSUIPC which knows anything about graphical effects like surfaces moving.

So, I obviously NEED FSUIPC to operate the DA F100. But it works, (when flying manually) better without it.

You need to ask DA support, then.

That's why, even though I'm a computer dummy, I think it must be an FSUIPC problem, not a DA Fokker problem.

No, you are wrong. Try a default aircraft. Does that fly okay with FSUIPC installed and your controls in use?

FSUIPC is an INTERFACE to FS for applications. It can be used well by those applications or used badly. If your DA add-on aircraft is using it badly, then it is at fault and you need to talk to DA about getting it fixed.

FSUIPC is also a collection of User-oriented facilities, but those are only available when you register, so none of those can in any way be involved.

I'm using registered FSUIPC 4.3 (I think), with FSX and the Digital Aviation.

Er, hold on! You said you were using it unregistered, so what's changed between the paragraphs above this, and your new statement? This is the first time you mentioned FSX too!

Delete your FSUIPC4.INI file, which contains all of the FSUIPC4 configuration settings, from the FSX Modules folder. This will undo any horrible mess you might have made is messing about in FSUIPC's joystick facilities.

Regards

Pete

[rondon9897]

Good grief Pete, I seemed to have vexed you. That was not the intention. I apologise!

I WAS using the unregistered version in FSX, now I am using the registered one. Sorry.

[Pete Dowson]

Good grief Pete, I seemed to have vexed you.

Not vexed, confused rather.

I WAS using the unregistered version in FSX, now I am using the registered one. Sorry.

... and is the aircraft as bad in either case? If so this proves it is something wrong with the aircraft. If it is only playing up since you registered then delete your FSUIPC4 INI file as I suggested so that you can be sure FSUIPC is not interfering by way of bad user settings for the joysticks.

The real test as to whether FSUIPC is doing anything untoward is by using the default aircraft, as FSUIPC only deals with things inside FS, those used by default aircraft. If an add-on adds anything extra then FSUIPC doesn't have anything really to do with it except as an access portal to FS's data should that add-on need it. Of course FSX-specific add-ons have the option of using FSX facilities directly and therefore usually don't need FSUIPC at all.

Regards

Pete

[rondon9897]

One more question Pete.

Should there be a simconnect dll in my modules folder, cos there isn't one.

CJ

[JSkorna]

No, no simconnect.dll in the Modules folder.