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I download the lastest version of FSUIPC 4.5 and i have installed it. Now That it is installed when i try to start my FSX it says that a fatel error has occurred and trying to restart program? Also I am on Delta Virtual Airlines and I use the ACARS and FDC Live Cockpit but it says the flight sim is not started when everything is loaded and ready to go but i never had this problem when i had FSUIPC 4.3 before? So please help thanks!!! :?:

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I download the lastest version of FSUIPC 4.5 and i have installed it. Now That it is installed when i try to start my FSX it says that a fatel error has occurred and trying to restart program?

There's nothing in FSUIPC4 which can do that. Can you provide more information on this "fatal error"? It means nothing on its own. There should be more data available in the error report. Have you yet tried loading FSX with FSUIPC4.DLL temporarily removed from the FSX Modules folder -- if not, do so. What happens then?

Also, show me the FSUIPC4.LOG and the Install Log files from the FSX Modules folder. They are both ordinary text files you can find in the FSX Modules folder -- paste them into a message here.

Also I am on Delta Virtual Airlines and I use the ACARS and FDC Live Cockpit but it says the flight sim is not started when everything is loaded and ready to go

How can everything be loaded and ready to go if FSX has crashed with a fatal error? You aren't making sense here I'm afraid.

... but i never had this problem when i had FSUIPC 4.3 before?

It really is very unlikely to be anything to do with a change in FSUIPC version as there aren't any recent ones relating to anything in FSX, only user options and minor fixes in the user facilities, none of which would be relevant whilst FSX is loading. I suspect you must have changed something else at the same time.

Regards

Pete

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Well Mr. Dawson, FSX loads up with no problem now with the FSUIPC 4.5 but I still have the problem on the ACARS where I have loaded my flight plan on FSX and ACARS but when I am at the gate and ready to start flight, the error message on the ACARS is "Microsoft Flight Simulator must be running, and aircraft must be loaded," but I have done all the that. My FDC Live Cockpit is the same way the error message on there is, "Must be in Cockpit to run FDC Live Cockpit," but everything is loaded on FSX I do not know why I am getting this message either. Here is the log I do not know if this will help u any.

Installer for FSUIPC4.DLL version 4.50

Looking in registry for FSX install path:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\10.0

Parameter"SetupPath"

Looking in registry for ESP install path:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft ESP\1.0

Parameter"SetupPath"

Not there, so looking in:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft ESP\1.0

Parameter"AppPath"

... NOT found! ...

===========================================================

INSTALLATION FOR FSX:

AppPath="C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\"

Checking version of FSX.EXE:

... Version 10.0.61355.0 (Need at least 10.0.60905.0)

Checking compatibility with installed SimConnect:

Found SimConnect build 60905 (Original)

Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC4 installed in:

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL

... Version 4.517 found.

Installed version is later: it is not overwritten.

Looking for the current user's Application Data path:

... found as "C:\Users\Beondra\AppData\Roaming"

Now finding \Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG for all users, including this one

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\AppData\Roaming"

Found FSX.CFG in "C:\Users\Beondra\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG"

Now checking DLL.XML ...

... There is a previous DLL.XML, checking for FSUIPC4 section.

No previous FSUIPC4 entry found, so adding it now ...

... FSUIPC4 section of DLL.XML written okay

Now checking for a SimConnect.XML file ...

... No SimConnect.XML file found. This is okay.

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\Application Data\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\Contacts\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\Cookies\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\Desktop\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\Documents\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\Downloads\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\Favorites\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\Links\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\Local Settings\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\Music\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\My Documents\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\NetHood\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\Pictures\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\PrintHood\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\Recent\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\Roaming\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\Saved Games\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\Searches\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\SendTo\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\Start Menu\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\Templates\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Beondra\Videos\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Now installing additional files into the Modules folder:

Installed "FSUIPC4 User Guide.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC4 for Advanced Users.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC4 History.pdf" okay

Installed "List of FSX controls.pdf" okay

Installed "GlobalSign Root.exe" okay

Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay

Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay

Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay

FSUIPC4.DLL installed and signature checked out okay!

Deleted GlobalSign Root fix programno longer relevant

===========================================================

All installer tasks completed okay!

Registration for FSUIPC4 was cancelled or failed! (result code 40)

*************** End of Install Log ***************

But thanks for replying back so soon Mr. Dawson, sorry for the miss understanding from before.

thanks,

de'Anthony :D

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Well Mr. Dawson

Dowson, actually, but Pete will do.

... the problem on the ACARS where I have loaded my flight plan on FSX and ACARS but when I am at the gate and ready to start flight, the error message on the ACARS is "Microsoft Flight Simulator must be running, and aircraft must be loaded,"

The answer would be in the FSUIPC Log.

Here is the log I do not know if this will help u any.

That's the Installer log, which isn't relevant now you don't have an FSX loading problem. I'd need to see the FSUIPC4.LOG -- I did ask for both. Please show me the FSUIPC log -- make sure you close FSX first, please.

Regards

Pete

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********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.517 by Pete Dowson *********

Reading options from "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini"

NOTE: SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 is supported, but it isn't installed.

User Name=""

User Addr=""

FSUIPC4 not user registered

WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired

Running inside FSX on Windows Vista (using SimConnect SP1 May07)

Module base=61000000

Wind smoothing fix is fully installed

DebugStatus=0

499 System time = 09:30:30

499 FLT UNC path = "C:\Users\Beondra\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\"

499 FS UNC path = "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\"

2714 LogOptions=00000000 00000001

2730 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay

9407 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61355.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61242.0)

9407 Initialising SimConnect data requests now

9407 FSUIPC Menu entry added

9578 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\FLIGHTS\OTHER\FLTSIM.FLT

9578 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\Aircreation_582SL\Aircreation_582SL.AIR

1013819 System time = 09:47:24

1013819 *** FSUIPC log file being closed

Memory managed: 2 Allocs, 2 Freed

********* FSUIPC Log file closed ***********

Sorry Pete....here is the log but I hope this can help with my FDC Live Cockpit and ACARS problem.

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Sorry Pete....here is the log but I hope this can help with my FDC Live Cockpit and ACARS problem.

The log shows everything is fine. FSUIPC4 is running quite happily. Nothing wrong.

I think you are using Vista, right? And you have installed FSX in its default place, in Program Files. All of the Program files folders are protected under Vista, and I'm wondering if those programs, FDC and ACARS need to be able to access them and cannot?

I know FDC uses FSUIPC, but does this ACARS application?

Are you by any chance running FSX "as administrator" and not the other programs? Or perhaps vice versa? If so, then the problem will be that Vista does not allow programs running with different privilege levels to exchange data in memory, which is the way the FSUIPC works. You have to run everything the same way.

Regards

Pete

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Yes I am running it as a admin, but its just strange because I never had this problem with FDC before but with ACARS when I log on to it. It shows that FSUIPC 4.5 register on the log in screen, so is there anything I am suppose to do with FDC?

Thanks Pete

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Yes I am running it as a admin, but its just strange because I never had this problem with FDC before but with ACARS when I log on to it.

Sorry, I find your wording a little confusing there"never the problem before with FDC"that's one statement, right? "but with ACARS when I log on to it" needs something adding to make sense.

Under Vista, if you run one program "as administrator" and another not, then they cannot share data in memory. Vista prevents it. If you had FDC working before, and FDC uses FSUIPC (which I believe it does), then either you were using WinXP, not Vista, then, or you were running both either "as administrator" or not. They simply must be at the same privilege level or it cannot work.

It shows that FSUIPC 4.5 register on the log in screen

Sorry, what shows what where? I don't understand why you said this, nor how it is relevant.

so is there anything I am suppose to do with FDC?

Well, advice about FDC needs to come from someone who knows it, not I. But if you want it to talk to FS via FSUIPC you must either NOT run FSX "as administrator", or run everything which wants to talk to it "as administrator" too -- I'm sure I already said this.

Regards

Pete

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Its doing again, I was playing with no problem, I did not add anything or nothing, so I have no clue why when i try to load FSX it will not load again. It say fatal error occurred but not giving me an error code or anything it just says that windows will notify me when solution is found and it shuts down the program and I do not think its the FSUIPC.

********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.517 by Pete Dowson *********

Reading options from "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini"

NOTE: SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 is supported, but it isn't installed.

User Name=""

User Addr=""

FSUIPC4 not user registered

WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired

Running inside FSX on Windows Vista (using SimConnect SP1 May07)

Module base=61000000

Wind smoothing fix is fully installed

DebugStatus=0

452 System time = 14:52:26

452 FLT UNC path = "C:\Users\Beondra\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\"

452 FS UNC path = "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\"

2402 LogOptions=00000000 00000001

2402 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay

8705 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61355.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61242.0)

8705 Initialising SimConnect data requests now

8705 FSUIPC Menu entry added

8845 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\FLIGHTS\OTHER\FLTSIM.FLT

8845 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\Aircreation_582SL\Aircreation_582SL.AIR

7569028 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\POSKY Boeing 757-200F_PW UPS NC\B757-200-PW-PW2043.AIR

7654641 Weather Mode now = Real World

7869767 C:\Users\Beondra\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Hartsfield - Jackson Atlanta I to Louisville Intl-Standiford.PLN

8459061 System time = 17:13:24, Simulator time = 17:15:38 (21:15Z)

9026748 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now****

9026998 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay

9027029 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61355.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61242.0)

9027029 Initialising SimConnect data requests now

9027029 FSUIPC Menu entry added

9027294 C:\Users\Beondra\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\Previous flight.FLT

9027294 C:\Users\Beondra\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Hartsfield - Jackson Atlanta I to Louisville Intl-Standiford.PLN

9027357 C:\Users\Beondra\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Hartsfield - Jackson Atlanta I to Louisville Intl-Standiford.PLN

9031990 System time = 17:22:57, Simulator time = 17:24:04 (21:24Z)

9032723 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled

11717500 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 2686 secs = 7.9 fps

12784469 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now****

12784500 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay

12784547 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61355.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61242.0)

12784547 Initialising SimConnect data requests now

12784547 FSUIPC Menu entry added

12784781 C:\Users\Beondra\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Hartsfield - Jackson Atlanta I to Louisville Intl-Standiford.PLN

12784812 C:\Users\Beondra\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Hartsfield - Jackson Atlanta I to Louisville Intl-Standiford.PLN

12786965 System time = 18:25:32, Simulator time = 17:23:09 (22:23Z)

12796278 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now****

12796278 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay

12796278 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61355.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61242.0)

12796278 Initialising SimConnect data requests now

12796294 FSUIPC Menu entry added

12796575 C:\Users\Beondra\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Hartsfield - Jackson Atlanta I to Louisville Intl-Standiford.PLN

12796590 C:\Users\Beondra\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Hartsfield - Jackson Atlanta I to Louisville Intl-Standiford.PLN

12797230 System time = 18:25:42, Simulator time = 17:23:09 (22:23Z)

13946099 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 1140 secs = 3.8 fps

14036627 C:\Users\Beondra\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Hartsfield - Jackson Atlanta I to Louisville Intl-Standiford.PLN

14115875 System time = 18:47:41, Simulator time = 17:15:34 (21:15Z)

14115969 *** FSUIPC log file being closed

Average frame rate for running time of 5332 secs = 6.5 fps

Memory managed: 1109 Allocs, 1109 Freed

********* FSUIPC Log file closed ***********

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Its doing again, I was playing with no problem, I did not add anything or nothing, so I have no clue why when i try to load FSX it will not load again. It say fatal error occurred but not giving me an error code or anything it just says that windows will notify me when solution is found and it shuts down the program and I do not think its the FSUIPC.

No. Sorry, it could be any of many things something you've added, some setting not compatible with your video card, anything. I suggest you backup your FSX.CFG file and load FSX so that it boots with a default set of parameters. If that doesn't fix it you'll need to start eliminating add-ons.

What does the FSUIPC4 log you included relate to? It obviously isn't one where FSX crashed on loading.

I do notice a couple of things though:

NOTE: SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 is supported, but it isn't installed.

...

Running inside FSX on Windows Vista (using SimConnect SP1 May07)

Is there any reason you only updated FSX to SP1 level? The SP2 update fixes quite a number of additional FSX bugs and makes Simconnect add-ons more efficient.

These log entries show something is truly bogging down FSX, too:

9026748 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now****

...

11717500 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 2686 secs = 7.9 fps

...

12784469 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now****

...

12796278 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now****

...

13946099 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 1140 secs = 3.8 fps

...

Average frame rate for running time of 5332 secs = 6.5 fps

Your overall average frame rate is only 6.5 --- surely not flyable? I think you need to seriously turn down some of your settings!

Worse, something is really clobbering SimConnect. Updating to FSX SP2 would help, but having SimConnect cut out and need reconnecting is really indicative of something wrong. Oddly, this didn't start happening until 9026 seconds (over 2 1/2 hours) into your session, so I'm suspecting it is either a case of memory filling up and things clogging because of disk access, or something related to the aircraft you loaded not so long before (2 hrs 6 mins into the session).:

7569028 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\POSKY Boeing 757-200F_PW UPS NC\B757-200-PW-PW2043.AIR

Nothing in the log shows why your FSX might crash during loading, though.

Regards

Pete

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