Toe Brakes

[disco87]

Hello

I've been reading on how to configure my rudder pedals to have toe brakes using FUSPIC. I'e managed to get thme showing in axis assignments for the left and right brakes when i depress them but in the joystick calibration option when i press them there is no change at all. The number always remains at 0.

Perhaps someone could give me a little help

Thanks

David

[Pete Dowson]

I've been reading on how to configure my rudder pedals to have toe brakes using FUSPIC. I'e managed to get thme showing in axis assignments for the left and right brakes when i depress them

You need first to actually ASSIGN them, not just view them!

If you have actually assigned them, how have you assigned them? Direct to FSUIPC or to the FS controls? (What do the words in the one of 4 possible assignment edit fields you used actually say?)

After assigning them, and you move on to the Joystick tab, you have to press the "Set" button, top left in the relevant calibration areas, so that it turns to "Reset", else they are not intercepted for calibration. Merely assigning them does not calibrate them, and if assigned "direct" lack of calibration means no action.

Please do refer to the step-by-step guidance for calibration in FSUIPC provided in the FSUIPC User documerntation.

Pete

[disco87]

I have them assigned in axis assignment to left and right brakes and send to FUSPIC to callibration. However when i go to joystick calibration and press set button there is no responce in the numbers when i have depressed them.

Thanks

David

[Pete Dowson]

I have them assigned in axis assignment to left and right brakes and send to FUSPIC to callibration. However when i go to joystick calibration and press set button there is no responce in the numbers when i have depressed them.

It sounds as if your assignment settings are wrong. You should not touch anything else on that Tab if you don't fully understand it. Please show me the [Axis] and [JoystickCalibration] sections of your FSUIPC INI file so i can see what you have done.

I also need to know the specific version number of FSUIPC (I always need this information). It might also help if you enable Axis event logging in the Logging tab of FSUIPC, and showed me the resulting log after you try these things.

Regards

Pete

[disco87]

Hi Pete

O.K here is the ini file:

[JoyNames]

AutoAssignLetters=No

1=Saitek Pro Flight Yoke

2=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals

[General]

UpdatedByVersion=3900

WindSmoothing=Yes

AutoTaxiWind=No

PropTaxiWind=No

TimeSetMode=Partial

WhiteMessages=No

ThrottleSyncAll=No

GraduatedVisibility=No

LowerVisAltitude=0

UpperVisAltitude=25000

UpperVisibility=6000

GenerateCirrus=Yes

WindShearSharp=No

UpperWindGusts=No

ExtendMetarMaxVis=Yes

CorrectVSsign=Yes

MouseWheelTrim=No

MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1

AxisInterceptIfDirect=No

DisconnTrimForAP=No

ZeroElevForAPAlt=No

AutoClearWeather=Yes

ExtendTopWind=Yes

WindSmoothness=5

SmoothPressure=No

PressureSmoothness=5

SmoothVisibility=Yes

VisibilitySmoothness=2

MaxSurfaceWind=0

WindLimitLevel=200

WindDiscardLevel=400

WindAjustAltitude=No

WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000

MinimumVisibility=0

MaximumVisibilityFewClouds=0

MaximumVisibility=0

MaximumVisibilityOvercast=0

MaximumVisibilityRainy=0

OneCloudLayer=No

ThinClouds=No

ThinThunderClouds=No

CloudThinness=1000

ThunderCloudThinness=10000

CloudTurbulence=No

CloudIcing=No

WindTurbulence=No

SuppressAllGusts=No

ExternalOptionControl=Yes

AutoTuneADF=No

KeepFS98CloudCover=No

ShowPMcontrols=No

MagicBattery=No

RudderSpikeRemoval=No

ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No

AileronSpikeRemoval=No

ReversedElevatorTrim=No

StopAutoFuel=No

TrapUserInterrupt=Yes

NavFreq50KHz=No

ClockSync=No

SmoothIAS=Yes

SetVisUpperAlt=No

VisUpperAltLimit=6000

MaxIce=3

MinIce=-1

WindSmoothingDelay=0

WindSmoothAirborneOnly=No

LimitWindVariance=No

VisSmoothingDelay=0

VisSmoothAirborneOnly=No

TrafficControlDirect=Yes

SuppressCloudTurbulence=No

SuppressWindTurbulence=No

SpoilerIncrement=512

ZapSound=firework

ShortAircraftNameOk=No

UseProfiles=No

TCASid=Flight

TCASrange=40

TrafficScanPerFrame=10

AxisCalibration=No

CentredDialogue=Yes

ShowMultilineWindow=Yes

SuppressSingleline=No

SuppressMultilineFS=No

ClearWeatherDynamics=Yes

OwnWeatherChanges=No

FixWindows=No

FixControlAccel=No

WeatherReadInterval=4

MoveBGLvariables=Yes

TimeForSelect=4

WeatherReadsFast=No

MainMenu=&Modules

SubMenu=&FSUIPC ...

[JoystickCalibration]

AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes

ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes

ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes

ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes

SepRevsJetsOnly=No

ApplyHeloTrim=No

FlapsSetControl=0

FlapDetents=No

ReverserControl=66292

Reverser1Control=66422

Reverser2Control=66425

Reverser3Control=66428

Reverser4Control=66431

MaxThrottleForReverser=256

AileronTrimControl=0

RudderTrimControl=0

CowlFlaps1Control=0

CowlFlaps2Control=0

CowlFlaps3Control=0

CowlFlaps4Control=0

MaxSteerSpeed=60

PanHeading=-16380,-512,512,16380

RightBrake=-16380,16380

SlewSide=-16380,-16319,-16319,-16319

SlewAhead=-16380,0,0,0

LeftBrake=-16380,16380

Flaps=0,16380

[buttons]

ButtonRepeat=20,10

1=R1,0,C1001,0

2=U1,0,C1002,0

3=P1,19,C65752,0

4=P1,2,C65607,0

5=P1,3,C65615,0

6=R1,32,C65734,0

7=R1,34,C65672,0

8=U1,34,C66415,0

9=U1,32,C66415,0

10=R1,33,C65856,0

11=U1,33,C66415,0

12=R1,36,C65735,0

13=U1,36,C66415,0

14=R1,35,C65857,0

15=U1,35,C66415,0

16=R1,37,C65855,0

17=U1,37,C66415,0

18=R1,38,C65671,0

19=U1,38,C66415,0

20=R1,39,C65854,0

21=U1,39,C66415,0

22=P1,1,K83,8

26=P1,7,C65689,0

27=U1,7,C65689,0

[Axes]

0=1X,256,D,1,0,0,0

1=1Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

2=1Z,256,D,9,0,0,0

3=1U,256,D,10,0,0,0

4=2X,256

5=2X,B,0,0,65720,0

6=2Y,256

7=2Y,B,0,0,65721,0

8=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0

The version number that i have is 9.1.0.4091

[Pete Dowson]

O.K here is the ini file

Thanks. I didn't actually want the whole file, only the joystickCalibration and Axes sections.

These two lines at least prove you've pressed the correct "Set" button for left and right brake axis calibration:

[JoystickCalibration]

RightBrake=-16380,16380

LeftBrake=-16380,16380

However, in your Axes section there is nothing assigned to any brake axes, and most certainly not to FSUIPC direct calibration for brakes!

Instead you seem to be trying to assign the brake KEY events in FS (Brake Left and Brake Right) to a zero-sized portion of your brake axis movement, using the right-hand side of the Axis assignments.

[Axes]

4=2X,256

5=2X,B,0,0,65720,0

6=2Y,256

7=2Y,B,0,0,65721,0

65720 and 65721 are the FS key controls, same as pressing F11 and F12 on the keyboard. They are NOT axes, although for compatibility with FS98 - FS2002, FSUIPC can be made to treat them as such. But you've made these key presses operate just as key presses, and only when your brake axes pass through a zero value (that's what "B,0,0" means -- Both directions, range 0 to 0)!

In other words you appear to be messing about with a completely different facility altogether.

Please just use the LEFT HAND SIDE of the Axis Assignments, and assign the brakes to the brakes there! That's what the assignments dropdowns are for! After all, you seem to have managed to use them okay to assign other axes there okay, as these lines show:

0=1X,256,D,1,0,0,0

1=1Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

2=1Z,256,D,9,0,0,0

3=1U,256,D,10,0,0,0

8=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0

They set direct assignment for aileron, elevator, two throttles and a rudder. So why are you treating toe brakes so wildly differently?

The version number that i have is 9.1.0.4091

I'm not at all interested in the version of FS! Only of FSUIPC! I ALWAYS need to know the version of FSUIPC! It is shown in FSUIPC's properties, or on screen in the main "About" tab, or in the Log file! It isn't hard to find!

Pete

[disco87]

Hi Pete

Working now, thanks. Although i have another question. I posted in the PMDG forums that i was wondering if there was a way to make the 737 less responsive to the throttles when taxing as a tiny amount of throttle increased the taxi speed fairly dramatically. I got a responce saying that FUSPIC was able to "create a non-linear response for the control, which can be used to desensitize the bottom of the throttle travel." I assume that this is the slope button on the calibration page, however could you help me to do this?

thanks

David

[mtjoeng]

you taxi a 737 by Throttle up, and as soon as it moves you throttle down, close to idle

in 'joystick calibration''seperate throttles per engine' there is a button 'slope'