FSUIPC error on startup

[deccas1391]

Hi

I'm new to understanding FSUIPC, even though I have had it for quite a while and it has been working perfectly. Recently I have been having trouble starting FSX. Whenever I do, I get an error message saying:

"Flight Simulator has detected a problem with a third-party software program"

I then asks me if I want to allow the program. If I click Yes, FSX stops working and closes itself. If I click No, FSX opens but I am not able to load some aircraft (VRS F/A-18E).

What should I do???

Thanks heaps

[Pete Dowson]

I get an error message saying:

"Flight Simulator has detected a problem with a third-party software program"

I then asks me if I want to allow the program. If I click Yes, FSX stops working and closes itself. If I click No, FSX opens...

First, I need to know the FSUIPC version number. I always need that. If it isn't at least 4.60 please update. There's also a later version still in the Updates Announcement here.

This sort of error is rare, but it is invariably caused by a known bug in the Trust checking mechanism in FSX's SimConnect module. The crash actually occurs before FSUIPC is even loaded.

Have you added anything else recently? If so it may just be down to the ordering of DLL's being loaded by SimConnect, in which can merely re-installing FSUIPC might fix it. If installing 4.60 doesn't help, show me the FSUIPC installer log (from the FSX Modules folder), and we'll go from there.

Regards

Pete

[deccas1391]

Hi

Thanks for the quick response. I am using 4.60 for FSUIPC. I think this is the log (I may be wrong):

250 System time = 13/04/2010 19:15:15

250 FLT UNC path = "\\HOME-PC\Users\Home\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\"

250 FS UNC path = "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\"

1092 LogOptions=00000000 00000001

1092 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay

3885 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61637.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0)

3885 Initialising SimConnect data requests now

3885 FSUIPC Menu entry added

3932 C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\FLIGHTS\OTHER\FLTSIM.FLT

3932 C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\Aircreation_582SL\Aircreation_582SL.AIR

232286 C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\VRS_FA-18E\FA-18E-6.8_SE.AIR

286793 C:\Users\Home\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\VFR Amberley Military to Williamtown Military.PLN

355995 System time = 13/04/2010 19:21:11, Simulator time = 04:53:09 (18:53Z)

358771 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled

445165 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 90 secs = 9.5 fps

6640947 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 6140 secs = 35.8 fps

6903715 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 244 secs = 11.6 fps

9768643 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 2863 secs = 11.5 fps

9965001 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 129 secs = 4.6 fps

10025498 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 51 secs = 9.5 fps

10839355 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 807 secs = 14.3 fps

11715582 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 869 secs = 10.7 fps

11721728 System time = 13/04/6510 22:30:38, Simulator time = 12:33:13 (20:33Z)

11721728 *** FSUIPC log file being closed

Average frame rate for running time of 11193 secs = 24.8 fps

Memory managed: 3561 Allocs, 3560 Freed

Thanks

[Pete Dowson]

Thanks for the quick response. I am using 4.60 for FSUIPC. I think this is the log (I may be wrong)

Well, that's part of a normal FSUIPC log showing it running well and NOT crashing FSX, at least yesterday from 19:15 to 22:30 hours your system time. That's over three hours running with no problems. If FSUIPC is running okay and FSX is not crashing, then you don't have an FSUIPC problem. If something changed since last night, perhaps you can remember what you changed after 22:30 hours?

Why did you remove the top few lines which at least confirm the version? Please don't do that next time.

Anyway, if you want help with the problem you originally reported, assuming it still happens, I'd need to see the Install log, which you can recognise because it includes the word "Install" in the name! But maybe you can also provide a history of the changes you've made since 22:30 last night? I'm sure that could identify the culprit more quickly.

And have you tried reinstalling FSUIPC as I suggested?

Regards

Pete

[deccas1391]

Hi

Sorry about that. I'm new to all this and must have overlooked it. Here is the install log:

Installer for FSUIPC4.DLL version 4.60a

Looking in registry for FSX install path:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\10.0

Parameter"SetupPath"

... >>> OK! FOUND FSX! <<< ...

Looking in registry for ESP install path:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft ESP\1.0

Parameter"SetupPath"

Not there, so looking in:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft ESP\1.0

Parameter"AppPath"

... NOT found! ...

===========================================================

INSTALLATION FOR FSX:

AppPath="C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\"

Checking version of FSX.EXE:

... Version 10.0.61637.0 (Need at least 10.0.60905.0)

Checking compatibility with installed SimConnect:

Found SimConnect build 60905 (Original)

Found SimConnect build 61242 (SP1 May07)

Found SimConnect build 61259 (Acc/SP2 Oct07)

Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC4 installed in:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL

... No previous valid version found.

FSX Modules folder already exists.

Okay -- installed FSUIPC4 into "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL"

Looking for the current user's Application Data path:

... found as "C:\Users\Home\AppData\Roaming"

Now finding \Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG for all users, including this one

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\AppData\Roaming"

Found FSX.CFG in "C:\Users\Home\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG"

Now checking DLL.XML ...

... There is a previous DLL.XML, checking for FSUIPC4 section.

... FSUIPC4 section already exists but will be replaced.

... FSUIPC4 section of DLL.XML written okay

Now checking for a SimConnect.XML file ...

... No SimConnect.XML file found. This is okay.

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Application Data\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Citrix\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Contacts\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Cookies\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Desktop\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Documents\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Downloads\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Favorites\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\InstallAnywhere\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Links\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Local Settings\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Music\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\My Documents\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\NetHood\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Pictures\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\PrintHood\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Recent\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Saved Games\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Searches\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\SendTo\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Start Menu\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Templates\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Tracing\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Home\Videos\Roaming"

No FSX.CFG there

"Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder already exists.

Now installing additional files into the "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder:

Installed "FSUIPC4 User Guide.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC4 for Advanced Users.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC4 History.pdf" okay

Installed "List of FSX controls.pdf" okay

Installed "GlobalSign Root.exe" okay

Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay

Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay

Installed "Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf" okay

Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay

FSUIPC4.DLL installed and signature checked out okay!

Deleted GlobalSign Root fix programno longer relevant

===========================================================

All installer tasks completed okay!

Registration for FSUIPC4 was cancelled or failed! (result code 40)

*************** End of Install Log ***************

Hopefully this helps

Thanks very much

[Pete Dowson]

Sorry about that. I'm new to all this and must have overlooked it. Here is the install log

Right. But before I go into that, can you please tell me whether you really still have a problem or not, because the run-time log your showed was for a successful 3-hour flight session with FSUIPC running well, as I explained. You first post, mentioning the problem, was at 11:48 in the morning of the 14th (not sure if that's your time or mine), and FSUIPC was loading fine at 10:30 pm the previous evening (though again I don't know if these times refer to the same zone as I don't know where you are).

So, what did you change, what did you add, between those two times? As I said, checking that will undoubtedly be the quickest way to a solution for you. Else the process of elimination could take days (or weeks at this rate, with you only acting on one question or request per day!).

If you do, indeed, still have a problem, have you yet tried re-running the FSUIPC installer as I requested? If not, please please do that first and re-test! Else we're both just wasting time.

Now to the log. This shows your DLL.XML and possibly your EXE.XML files are in this folder:

C:\Users\Home\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX

Please find those two files there (DLL.XML for certain, EXE.XML possibly, depending on what you've installed). You can either load them into a text editor (e.g. NotePad -- not WordPad), then cut and paste them into a message here, as you did with the logs. We'll go from there.

It will still be easier and more likely to succeed with less hassle if you could remember what you did in those few hours, apart from sleep that is! ;-)

Regards

Pete

[deccas1391]

I have tried installing countless times. I had FSUIPC installed before I installed the VRS F/A-18E, which was the aircraft I used on the previous flight (just testing bombing and refuelling - no problems occurred), but I had to perform a System Restore because I had problems with the PC, and that was when I was getting the error message. I didn't change anything in FSX apart from the System Restore. I had never received the error before, so I didn't know what to do.

Here are the logs.

DLL.XML:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252" ?>

-

Launch

dll.xml

False

False

-

HeliTraffic2009

False

False

C:\Program Files (x86)\Heli Traffic 2009 Demo\HeliTraffic2009.dll

-

Object Placement Tool

False

False

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Mission Creation Kit\object_placement.dll

-

Panels ang Gauges

False

False

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\SimObject Creation kit\Panels and gauges\Simpropace.dll

-

Level-D Simulations

False

False

Modules\LVLD.dll

-

FS Recorder

False

False

C:\Program Files (x86)\FS Recorder for FSX\FSRecorder_FSX.dll

-

FS Recorder Module

False

False

C:\Program Files (x86)\FS Recorder for FSX\RecorderFSX.dll

-

FSUIPC 4

False

Modules\FSUIPC4.dll

EXE.xml:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252" ?>

-

Launch

exe.xml

False

False

-

False

False

AICarriers

C:\Program Files (x86)\AICarriers\aicarriers.exe

-nogui

Many thanks for your help :)

[Pete Dowson]

I have tried installing countless times. I had FSUIPC installed before I installed the VRS F/A-18E, which was the aircraft I used on the previous flight (just testing bombing and refuelling - no problems occurred), but I had to perform a System Restore because I had problems with the PC, and that was when I was getting the error message. I didn't change anything in FSX apart from the System Restore. I had never received the error before, so I didn't know what to do.

Can we please PLEASE get this clarified? When you reported this too me days ago and I asked for a log, you showed me a log of a successful FSUIPC flight session lasting over three hours and terminating aafter 10:30 in the evening. Your message was timed in the morning. When did you do the restore? Before you went to bed, or after you got up? I still cannot understand the sequence.

Please could you review this thread and make sense for me of all this? I'm desperately trying to help you, but you seem to answer one question per day and it isn't easy figuring it all out.

Here are the logs.

Right. Those aren't logs, but control files for the loading of your FSX add-ons.

You have all these add-ons loading at the same time as FSUIPC:

HeliTraffic2009

Object Placement Tool

Panels ang Gauges (Simpropace)

Level-D Simulations

FS Recorder

FS Recorder Module

FSUIPC4

Note that you are loading TWO FSRecorders, not one. That could be a problem in itself. One is

C:\Program Files (x86)\FS Recorder for FSX\FSRecorder_FSX.dll

the other is

C:\Program Files (x86)\FS Recorder for FSX\RecorderFSX.dll

I doubt both of them exist, but check and delete the section which isn't relevant (or simply don't reinsert it).

Also you are loading, as an EXE

AICarriers

One of these is conflicting, probably because of the Trust bug in FSX.

The first test to do is to rename both DLL.XML and EXE.XML to something else (eq DLL.XMX and EXE.XMX), then re-run the FSUIPC4 installer. That will create a DLL.XML with only FSUIPC4 being loaded. Run FSX and check it is okay.

Then add the other stuff one at a time, checking each time. One easy way to do this is to insert the sections from the renamed files one at a time. Insert then before the final line, the one saying

For HeliTraffic, insert this:

HeliTraffic2009
False
False
C:\Program Files (x86)\Heli Traffic 2009 Demo\HeliTraffic2009.dll

For Object Placement (if you use this -- it's part of the FSX SDK, for developers), insert:

Object Placement Tool
False
False
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Mission Creation Kit\object_placement.dll

and similarly the "Panels & Gauges" too from the SDK:

Panels and Gauges
False
False
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\SimObject Creation kit\Panels and gauges\Simpropace.dll

and the Level-D support:

Level-D Simulations
False
False
Modules\LVLD.dll

The FS Recorder (change the name for the other one. Only choose one):

FS Recorder
False
False
C:\Program Files (x86)\FS Recorder for FSX\FSRecorder_FSX.dll

When you've sorted the DLL.XML out and tested, just rename the EXE.XML back to what it should be to re-enable the AICarriers application, if you want that.

Regards

Pete

[deccas1391]

Hi

I think the problem has been resolved. I put my computer in to be fixed (virus removed) and it turned out to be the virus that was the problem. I think once I told it to continue loading FSX it just crashed because of the virus (I'm not really sure). So now I've just loaded FSX and it asked me whether I want to allow FSUIPC, I click Yes, and FSX loads perfectly fine.

Thanks very much for your help and apologies for me not co-operating.

[Pete Dowson]

Thanks very much for your help and apologies for me not co-operating.

Glad it is all sorted out, and I think it was more a case of misunderstandings than lack of cooperation!

Good flying!

Pete