Question about Profiles.

[Jim Supersym]

I only just read this entry. There is no way a new aircraft (one with a different name) can ever be "automatically" added to a profile. It can only be done by user selection. Apart from the profile assigned, if any, to the current aircraft, none of the profile names are even known to FSUIPC until you use the selection facility in the options.

I think I have to emphasise what has now been said at least twice. delete the line assigning the aircraft to the cessna profile. I'm afraid FSUIPC does not currently offer an option to do this via the Options tabs -- I thought it an infrequent need and resources better spent elsewhere.

Regards,

Pete

I Apologyze for my bad english, but I hav'nt created manually this line.

I've reassign the axis with the fa18 loaded in FSX, but in the profile of cessna... :( fiirst mistake

I've done the mistake too, If I'm right, to have assign two time the axis, in general and in the cessna profile. Is is true ?

The best I have to do, I think is to delete and recrate the cessna profile with a cessna, and afterthat, if I can crate a profile for the fa18 with the fa 18 loaded, but only with the axins the buttum not already asigned !

[Pete Dowson]

I Apologyze for my bad english, but I hav'nt created manually this line.

I know. The line is created by assigning the aircraft to that profile via the Options checkbox and selection. When you load a new aircraft (one without a Profile assigned), and click on "Profile Specific", you get a list of the profiles which exist, and an entry to create a new one. You must have simply selected the Cessna one unintentionally. Too quick with the mouse button perhaps?

I've reassign the axis with the fa18 loaded in FSX, but in the profile of cessna... :( fiirst mistake

After deleting the line for this? So you've repeated the original mistake!

The best I have to do, I think is to delete and recrate the cessna profile with a cessna

No. If the Cessna profile is okay, just remove the line that Andy and I pointed out, the one assigning your FA18 to the Cessna profile. THEN load FS and load the FA18, and create a new profile with whatever name you like. Do NOT click on "Cessna" again!

Regards

Pete

[Jim Supersym]

Thanks a lot for all ! Pete and Andy !

I've done that you tell me so deleting the line about the FA18 in the cessna profile and I've been able to create a new profile with the FA18.

It's Ok now.

Thanks again ;)

[Jim Supersym]

Oh !

I'm so desapointed !

It's impossible to assign the brakes left ans right and it's impossible to calibrate : any value changes !

[Pete Dowson]

It's impossible to assign the brakes left ans right and it's impossible to calibrate : any value changes !

Sorry, but you'll need to explain a little more. I've no idea what you are talking about. I really can't help unless you say exactrly what you are doing and what you are trying to do, and what you think is not correct.

Pete

[Jim Supersym]

ok

I tried to assign in "axis assignment" the axis of the brakes of my saitek rudder.

And it's impossible to calibrate any axis : joystick or rudder.

[Pete Dowson]

I tried to assign in "axis assignment" the axis of the brakes of my saitek rudder.

And it's impossible to calibrate any axis : joystick or rudder.

So you assigned these items okay? Where, in FS or in FSUIPC? And to which specific controls -- FS controls or Direct to Calibration?

What do you really mean by "impossible to calibrate"? Please explain. I cannot see what you see, you must tell me.

Did you never have anything assigned and calibrated before? Have you only just got these controls?

Pete

[Jim Supersym]

I assigned the axis in fsuipc in "send to fs as normal axis"

In calibration any values don't change when I move the joystic or the rudder,

I meet no problem with the cessna or the 747 pmdg. I assigned and calibrated those aircratf with the same options

[Pete Dowson]

I assigned the axis in fsuipc in "send to fs as normal axis"

Okay. That's the same as using FS for assignment. Please tell me the names of the controls you assigned -- there are several variants, each suited to different needs -- and some need different settings.

You would generally find it much less confusing and, in fact, more efficient, to assign "direct to fSUIPC calibation" unless you do not want to calibrate for some reason.

In calibration any values don't change when I move the joystic or the rudder,

Perhaps you need to show me the INI file too. But please concentrate on my comments above first.

I meet no problem with the cessna or the 747 pmdg. I assigned and calibrated those aircratf with the same options

Since it makes no difference to FSUIPC, this is exactly why I think you are still confusing yourself, as you did before. Let me see the INI file as you have it now.

If you only ever assign to FS controls, and use the same controls for every aircraft, you would probably find it much easier to assign in FS itself. You can still calibrate in FSUIPC. I've no idea why you are trying to make things more complex. Do you need different controls for each aircraft? If you use the same controls for each, why are you assigning the axes "profile specific"? You would be better assigning them once and for all, non-specific, don't you think?

Pete

[Jim Supersym]

thank you very much for your attention !

ini file :

[General]

UpdatedByVersion=4859m

History=KQ10C48AOGOLF0IC0E6R1

TCASid=Flight

TCASrange=40

AxisCalibration=No

DirectAxesToCalibs=No

ShowMultilineWindow=Yes

SuppressSingleline=No

SuppressMultilineFS=No

AxisIntercepts=No

WeatherReadFactor=2

WeatherRewriteSeconds=1

CustomWeatherModify=No

SimConnectStallTime=1

Console=No

DontResetAxes=No

AxesWrongRange=No

InitDelay=0

GetNearestAirports=Yes

LuaRerunDelay=66

MouseWheelMove=No

MouseWheelTrim=Yes

MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1

JoystickTimeout=20

PollGFTQ6=Yes

BlankDisplays=No

FixControlAccel=No

FixMachSpeedBug=No

DeleteVehiclesForAES=Yes

AutoScanDevices=Yes

VisibilityOptions=No

OneCloudLayer=No

CloudTurbulence=No

CloudIcing=No

GenerateCirrus=No

SuppressCloudTurbulence=No

MaxIce=-4

MinIce=-4

UpperWindGusts=No

SuppressWindTurbulence=No

SuppressWindVariance=No

WindTurbulence=No

TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0

TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40

SuppressAllGusts=No

MaxSurfaceWind=0

WindLimitLevel=200

WindDiscardLevel=400

WindAjustAltitude=No

WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000

SmoothBySimTime=No

WindSmoothing=No

WindSmoothness=2

WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes

PressureSmoothness=0

TemperatureSmoothness=0

DisconnTrimForAP=No

ZeroElevForAPAlt=No

ThrottleSyncAll=No

WhiteMessages=No

ShowPMcontrols=No

SpoilerIncrement=512

MagicBattery=No

RudderSpikeRemoval=No

ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No

AileronSpikeRemoval=No

ReversedElevatorTrim=No

ClockSync=No

ClockSyncMins=5

ClearWeatherDynamics=No

OwnWeatherChanges=No

TimeForSelect=4

LoadFlightMenu=No

LoadPlanMenu=No

PauseAfterCrash=No

BrakeReleaseThreshold=75

SaveDataWithFlights=No

ZapSound=firework

ShortAircraftNameOk=No

UseProfiles=Yes

EnableMouseLook=No

InitDelayDevicesToo=No

OOMcheck=Yes

FSVersionUsed="Microsoft Flight Simulator X",10.0.61637.0

SimConnectUsed=10.0.61259.0

[JoyNames]

AutoAssignLetters=No

1=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals

1.GUID={E1D20B50-5A53-11E1-8001-444553540000}

0=USB Game Controllers

0.GUID={88769DC0-EC99-11DE-8004-444553540000}

[WideServer]

WideFSenabled=Yes

[sounds]

Path=H:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Sound\

Device1=Périphérique audio principal

Device2=Haut-parleurs (2- Realtek High Definition Audio)

Device3=Realtek Digital Output (2- Realtek High Definition Audio)

Device4=Realtek Digital Output(Optical) (2- Realtek High Definition Audio)

[buttons]

Buttonrepeat=20,10

1=P0,14,C65752,0

2=P0,16,C66080,0

3=P0,17,C66079,0

4=R0,2,C65607,0

5=R0,3,C65615,0

6=R0,21,C65602,0

7=U0,21,C65604,0

12=P2,8,C66204,0

14=P0,0,C65588,0

16=P2,3,C66204,0

[AutoSave]

Next=8

Interval=30

Files=10

SaveOnGround=Yes

AutoSaveEnabled=Yes

1=Fri 002138

2=Fri 002208

3=Fri 002238

4=Fri 002307

5=Fri 002337

6=Wed 130603

7=Wed 131411

8=Fri 002010

9=Fri 002039

10=Fri 002109

11=Wed 214523

12=Wed 214533

13=Wed 214542

14=Wed 214552

15=Wed 214601

16=Wed 214611

17=Wed 214620

18=Wed 214630

19=Wed 214640

20=Wed 215227

21=Wed 213421

22=Wed 213430

23=Wed 213440

24=Wed 213449

25=Wed 213518

26=Wed 213527

27=Wed 213537

28=Wed 213546

29=Wed 213731

30=Wed 213741

31=Wed 213750

32=Wed 213800

33=Wed 213809

34=Wed 213819

35=Wed 213828

36=Wed 213838

37=Wed 213847

38=Wed 213857

39=Wed 213906

40=Wed 213916

41=Wed 213925

42=Wed 213935

43=Wed 213944

44=Wed 213954

45=Wed 214003

46=Wed 214013

47=Wed 214022

48=Wed 214032

49=Wed 214042

50=Wed 214051

51=Wed 214101

52=Wed 214110

53=Wed 214120

54=Wed 214129

55=Wed 214139

56=Wed 214148

57=Wed 214158

58=Wed 214207

59=Wed 214217

60=Wed 214227

[GPSout]

GPSoutEnabled=No

Port=COM0

Speed=4800

Interval=2000

PosTo6Decimal=No

Sentences=

[GPSout2]

GPSoutEnabled=No

Port=<none set>

Speed=4800

Interval=2000

PosTo6Decimal=No

Sentences=

[Axes]

0=0X,256,F,65763,0,0,0

1=0U,256,F,65762,0,0,0

2=0V,256,F,65763,0,0,0

[JoystickCalibration]

AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes

ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes

ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes

ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes

SepRevsJetsOnly=No

ApplyHeloTrim=No

UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No

FlapsSetControl=0

FlapDetents=No

ReverserControl=66292

Reverser1Control=66422

Reverser2Control=66425

Reverser3Control=66428

Reverser4Control=66431

MaxThrottleForReverser=256

AileronTrimControl=66731

RudderTrimControl=66732

CowlFlaps1Control=66162

CowlFlaps2Control=66163

CowlFlaps3Control=66164

CowlFlaps4Control=66165

SteeringTillerControl=0

MaxSteerSpeed=60

LeftBrake=-16384,16383

RightBrake=-16384,16383

Spoilers=-16256,16384/16

Flaps=-16383,16384/16

Reverser=0,0

Aileron=-16384,0,0,16383

Rudder=-16384,0,0,16191

Throttle=-16384,16192

Mixture=-16380,16380

Elevator=-16384,0,0,16383

MapThr1to234=Yes

MapThr12to34=Yes

MapThr12to123=Yes

PropPitch=-16384,16383

[Profile.cessna152]

1=C152II LIGHTBLUE G.F.

2=C152II Calypso G.F.

[Axes.cessna152]

0=0X,1,F,65763,0,0,0

1=0Y,256,F,65762,0,0,0

2=0Z,256,F,65765,0,0,0

3=0V,256,D,23,0,0,0

4=1X,256,F,66387,0,0,0

5=1Y,256,F,66388,0,0,0

6=1R,256,F,65764,0,0,0

7=2X,256,D,4,0,0,0

8=2R,256,D,6,0,0,0

[JoystickCalibration.cessna152]

AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes

ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes

ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes

ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes

SepRevsJetsOnly=No

ApplyHeloTrim=No

UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No

MapThr1to234=Yes

MapThr12to34=Yes

MapThr12to123=Yes

FlapsSetControl=0

FlapDetents=No

ReverserControl=66292

Reverser1Control=66422

Reverser2Control=66425

Reverser3Control=66428

Reverser4Control=66431

MaxThrottleForReverser=256

AileronTrimControl=66731

RudderTrimControl=66732

CowlFlaps1Control=66162

CowlFlaps2Control=66163

CowlFlaps3Control=66164

CowlFlaps4Control=66165

SteeringTillerControl=0

MaxSteerSpeed=60

Aileron=-16380,0,0,16380

Elevator=-16159,0,0,16224

Rudder=-16384,0,0,16255

PropPitch=-16384,16383

Mixture=-16254,16320

LeftBrake=-16383,16384/16

RightBrake=-16383,16384/16

Spoilers=-16383,16384/16

Flaps=-16383,16384/16

Reverser=0,0

SlopeRudder=-1

Throttle=-16380,16380

[Profile.74710]

1=PMDG 747-8i Air France

[Axes.74710]

0=0X,256,F,65695,0,0,0

1=0Y,256,F,65694,0,0,0

2=0Z,256,D,22,0,0,0

3=0U,256,D,4,0,0,0

4=0V,256,D,23,0,0,0

5=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0

6=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0

7=1R,256,F,65696,0,0,0

8=2X,256,F,65697,0,0,0

9=2Y,256,F,65767,0,0,0

10=2R,256,F,65773,0,0,0

[buttons.cessna152]

0=P2,7,C66241,0

1=U2,7,C66241,0

2=P2,6,C66242,0

3=U2,6,C66242,0

4=P2,3,C65571,0

5=U2,3,C65571,0

6=P2,0,C66204,0

7=U2,0,C66204,0

8=P2,8,C66239,0

9=U2,8,C66239,0

[buttons.74710]

0=H2,0,K77,8

1=H2,1,K65,8

2=U2,1,K65,8

3=H2,2,K76,8

4=U2,2,K76,8

5=U2,0,K77,8

6=R0,0,C65588,0

7=R0,21,C65602,0

8=U0,21,C65604,0

[Profile.74710]

1=74710

[Profile.FA18]

1=Flight Test Aircraft E1

[Axes.FA18]

0=0X,256,F,65763,0,0,0

1=0Y,256,F,65762,0,0,0

2=0Z,256,F,65765,0,0,0

3=0U,256,F,65762,0,0,0

4=0V,256,F,65763,0,0,0

5=1R,256,F,65764,0,0,0

[JoystickCalibration.FA18]

AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes

ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes

ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes

ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes

SepRevsJetsOnly=No

ApplyHeloTrim=No

UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No

MapThr1to234=Yes

MapThr12to34=Yes

MapThr12to123=Yes

FlapsSetControl=0

FlapDetents=No

ReverserControl=66292

Reverser1Control=66422

Reverser2Control=66425

Reverser3Control=66428

Reverser4Control=66431

MaxThrottleForReverser=256

AileronTrimControl=66731

RudderTrimControl=66732

CowlFlaps1Control=66162

CowlFlaps2Control=66163

CowlFlaps3Control=66164

CowlFlaps4Control=66165

SteeringTillerControl=0

MaxSteerSpeed=60

Aileron=0,0,512,16380

Elevator=0,0,0,0

Rudder=-16384,0,0,16191

Throttle=-16384,16192

PropPitch=-16384,16383

Mixture=-16380,16380

LeftBrake=-16380,16380

RightBrake=-16384,16383

Spoilers=-16256,16384/16

Flaps=-16383,16384/16

Reverser=0,0

[Pete Dowson]

ini file :

What about my other points? Have you no replies?

[JoyNames]

AutoAssignLetters=No

1=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals

1.GUID={E1D20B50-5A53-11E1-8001-444553540000}

0=USB Game Controllers

0.GUID={88769DC0-EC99-11DE-8004-444553540000}

You have these default assignments, to your yoke only by the look of it:

[Axes]

0=0X,256,F,65763,0,0,0 Axis ailerons Set

1=0U,256,F,65762,0,0,0 Axis Elevator Set

2=0V,256,F,65763,0,0,0 Axis ailerons Set

Why two axes both for ailerons?

And you have default calibrations and mappings for those and a lot more. How?

[JoystickCalibration]

LeftBrake=-16384,16383

RightBrake=-16384,16383

Spoilers=-16256,16384/16

Flaps=-16383,16384/16

Reverser=0,0

Aileron=-16384,0,0,16383

Rudder=-16384,0,0,16191

Throttle=-16384,16192

Mixture=-16380,16380

Elevator=-16384,0,0,16383

MapThr1to234=Yes

MapThr12to34=Yes

MapThr12to123=Yes

PropPitch=-16384,16383

The Cessna assignments seem to be a mixture of FS controls and direct controls. why mixed? Also there are assignments for a non-existent device 2.

[Axes.cessna152]

0=0X,1,F,65763,0,0,0

1=0Y,256,F,65762,0,0,0

2=0Z,256,F,65765,0,0,0

3=0V,256,D,23,0,0,0

4=1X,256,F,66387,0,0,0

5=1Y,256,F,66388,0,0,0

6=1R,256,F,65764,0,0,0

7=2X,256,D,4,0,0,0

8=2R,256,D,6,0,0,0

[JoystickCalibration.cessna152]

Aileron=-16380,0,0,16380

Elevator=-16159,0,0,16224

Rudder=-16384,0,0,16255

PropPitch=-16384,16383

Mixture=-16254,16320

LeftBrake=-16383,16384/16

RightBrake=-16383,16384/16

Spoilers=-16383,16384/16

Flaps=-16383,16384/16

Reverser=0,0

SlopeRudder=-1

Throttle=-16380,16380

The 747 controls even more so, but with some real oddities: You appear to have selected the older axes not the current "Axis ..." controls. Also it has assignments for a device 2 which doesn't appewar to exist according to the scanned device list!

[Axes.74710]

0=0X,256,F,65695,0,0,0 Aileron set (this is the older control, not the current FS "Axis" control)

1=0Y,256,F,65694,0,0,0 elevator set (")

2=0Z,256,D,22,0,0,0

3=0U,256,D,4,0,0,0

4=0V,256,D,23,0,0,0

5=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0

6=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0

7=1R,256,F,65696,0,0,0 Rudder Set (this is the older control, not the current FS control)

8=2X,256,F,65697,0,0,0 Throttle Set (")

9=2Y,256,F,65767,0,0,0 Prop pitch set (for a 747? Huh?)

10=2R,256,F,65773,0,0,0 Mixture Set (?)

The FA18 assignments are all to FS controls:

[Axes.FA18]

0=0X,256,F,65763,0,0,0 Ailerons

1=0Y,256,F,65762,0,0,0 Elevator

2=0Z,256,F,65765,0,0,0 Throttle

3=0U,256,F,65762,0,0,0 Elevator

4=0V,256,F,65763,0,0,0 Ailerons

5=1R,256,F,65764,0,0,0 Rudder

Seems you have two ailerons and two elevators, but no brakes assigned. I think you've made a bit of a mess, do you see? Without assigning "direct to FSUIPC" you won't be getting FSUIPC to arbitrate between the pairs of controls, so they will conflict. I expect this is your problem.

Quite honestly, you seem to be making more and more of a mess. Perhaps you could epxlain what it is you are trying to do. Why all these differing assignments? How many control devices do you have -- only two seem to be connected, so what it the problem with doing basic assignments just the once and use them for all aircraft?

In the end I suspect you'd be better off deleting your INI file and starting again.

Regards

Pete

[Jim Supersym]

I've one joystick noname and one yoke saitek with a thottle saitek and a throttle propeler mixture saitek and witch are not connected at this moment

I will retart properly with a new ini file, it will be better !

The best way is "send to fsuipc calibration" ?

[Pete Dowson]

I've one joystick noname and one yoke saitek with a thottle saitek and a throttle propeler mixture saitek and witch are not connected at this moment

No rudder really then?

If you don't leave them all connected, then it will be best, BEFORE assigning anything, to select the joy letter mode of identifying devices -- there's a chapter on this in the User Guide. If you don't do this then things will certainly go wrong at times -- the numbers used are assigned by Windows and are only fixed whilst the device is connected.

The best way is "send to fsuipc calibration" ?

Yes, it is easier, less confusing, and more efficient. The FS controls are supported because there are some add-on aircraft which need them.

Best to make a default set of assignments suited to your devices, and ONLY make profile-specific assignments if really necessary. This is usually when switching from, for example, prop controls (with mixture and prop pitch lervers) to jets (with extra throttle controls or things like steering tiller, reversers and spoiler), or to helicopter controls (completely different) or maybe yoke for Boeing airliners and joystick for Airbus. Set the defaults initially to suit the aircraft type you fly mostly.

Regards

Pete

[Jim Supersym]

understood :)