Saitek Pedals: Brakes 65588 - 0?

[guenseli]

Hello Pete,

I (and a few other users) have issues with some adons (do not want to name the developer here, sorry)

But if I press the brakes fully down with my saitek pedals, the brakes will release.

This will not happen, when I press my brakes down slowly - only when I press then (relatively) fast.

The issue is not occuring on any other addons, and not with FSX standard planes.

I have assigned and calibrated (as any other axis) my brakes through FSUIPC.

This issue does not occur with FSX assigning.

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now, I have had a look what happens there (with LINDA console) and found out, that at the end, when I press down my pedals, there will be the control 65588 parameter zero sent!?

I don't know why it is so, and I don't know if it's specific with Saitek pedals (seems so), and I can't explain, why not other addons are affected.

But obvisously, these (65588, 0) is the reason why the brakes release!

Hopefully you have a kind of idea for a solution here how to avoid these 65588,0 sending?

many greetings,

Guenter

[Pete Dowson]

now, I have had a look what happens there (with LINDA console) and found out, that at the end, when I press down my pedals, there will be the control 65588 parameter zero sent!?

65588 is "BRAKES", and is the control used by the default '.' key. The parameter is irrelevant, it doesn't use one, not being an axis control. FSUIPC sends a BRAKES control when toe brakes are pressed sufficiently to put them over the threshold for Parking Brake release -- otherwise the brake axes do not have this effect. The threshold is an INI parameter (BrakeReleaseThreshold) defaulting to 75%, but it can be 0 to turn it off.

However, this action is certainly not dependent on how fast you press, nor is it sent more than once so even if BRAKES did have an adverse effect it would immediately be cancelled out by the very next brake axis value.

I don't know why it is so, and I don't know if it's specific with Saitek pedals (seems so), and I can't explain, why not other addons are affected.

But obvisously, these (65588, 0) is the reason why the brakes release!

By "release" do you mean the brakes come off completely, ignoring the brake axes values? If so, why do you think brakes would release when a Brakes control is sent?

Hopefully you have a kind of idea for a solution here how to avoid these 65588,0 sending?

If it only occurs with certain add-ons (unnamed for some odd reason), then you need to investigate those add-ons, don't you? I don't see how a BRAKES control will affect things one way or another. But if you think it is because of FSUIPC's action described above, just try with the threshold set to 0.

Regards

Pete

[guenseli]

Thanks Pete,

the BrakeReleaseThreshold cures the issue.

Now I understand what it is for and yes, you are right, this is now a developer thing.

Will talk to them ...

Many thanks for the fast support as always!

(p.s. but yes, if I press the brakes slowly, then the 65588 is not sent!)