P3D 1.4 G3d.dll crash

[RTK1972]

Hi Pete,

i hope you can help with this.

With P3D 1.3 i had no g3d.dll crashes when using registered fsuipc. but with 1.4 that changed. i tried difefrent version of fsuipc but nothing helped.

This is the log file:

"********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.839b by Pete Dowson *********

User Name="xxxxxx"

User Addr="xxxxxx"

FSUIPC4 Key is provided

WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired

Running inside Prepar3D on Windows 7

Module base=0F440000

405 System time = 25/08/2012 16:07:16

405 FLT path = "C:\Users\Carsten\Documents\Prepar3D Files\"

405 Trying E:\p3d\Modules\SimConnectP3D.dll

405 Found it: trying to connect

405 FS path = "E:\p3d\"

671 LogOptions=00000000 00000001"

Thanks in advance for your help,

Carsten

671 Wind smoothing fix is only partially installed

671 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay

671 Trying to use SimConnect Prepar3D

1497 Running in "Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D®", Version: 1.4.4747.0 (SimConnect: 1.4.0.0)

1497 Initialising SimConnect data requests now

1497 FSUIPC Menu entry added

1497 C:\Users\Carsten\Documents\Prepar3D Files\startup ksfo.flt

1497 C:\Users\Carsten\Documents\Prepar3D Files\\IFR Seattle-Tacoma Intl to Vancouver Intl.PLN

1497 E:\p3d\SimObjects\Airplanes\PMDG 737-800NGX WL\B737-800WL.AIR

1497 C:\Users\Carsten\Documents\Prepar3D Files\\IFR Seattle-Tacoma Intl to Vancouver Intl.PLN

51714 System time = 25/08/2012 16:08:07, Simulator time = 12:46:52 (19:46Z)

51714 Aircraft="Boeing 737-823NGX American Airlines Winglets"

51714 Starting everything now ...

93710 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled

123646 C:\Users\Carsten\Documents\Prepar3D Files\proatcx-clr.PLN

191288 Weather Mode now = Custom

331471 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 252 secs = 20.3 fps

397553 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 45 secs = 20.7 fps

5540734 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 5089 secs = 28.2 fps

5556646 C:\Users\Carsten\Documents\Prepar3D Files\proatcx-clr.PLN

[Pete Dowson]

With P3D 1.3 i had no g3d.dll crashes when using registered fsuipc. but with 1.4 that changed. i tried difefrent version of fsuipc but nothing helped.

I'm surprised FSUIPC works at all with 1.4. The first I heard about it was yesterday. As stated in the documentation, FSUIPC4 works with P3D up to 1.3.

As far as I can see from the details of the changes in 1.4, the only G3D.DLL crash that FSUIPC4 patches is the one they say they've fixed. They certainly should have fixed it as I provided them full details a while back. However, there are lots of other G3D.DLL crashes which FSUIPC4 never patched and cannot patch. It only did the most common one as they turned out to be easiest.

I'll release a version of FSUIPC4 for P3D 1.4 soon, but I don't think it will fix any additional G3D crashes. The current version is 4.851 in any case -- you are out of date and unsupported.

Regards

Pete

[RTK1972]

hmmm.... that's not what i hoped to hear ;-)

what would you suggest ?

[Pete Dowson]

what would you suggest ?

P3D is still in development, unlike FSX. Report all bugs in their Support Forum with full information (NOT the FSUIPC log which isn't relevant -- they need the Windows crash data). They have to fix bugs in P3D, not I!

Pete

[RTK1972]

but maybe it would go faster if you do this for them ;-)

Thanks anyway !

Carsten

[von]

Just for info:

My P3D 1.4, TrackIr, EZca, Default Mooney, iFly737, FSUIPC 4.851 (with aircraft profiles) are all working OK.

[josan]

I downloaded the 1.4 just after the release. I try to install the FSUIPC 4.85 but it failed. I then installed my BlackboxSimulation Airbus ver 0.54. With the installer of this program is FSUIPC 4.84 and you know what..... it works. But ver 4.85 fails, at least for me.

Regards

Bjorn

[Pete Dowson]

I downloaded the 1.4 just after the release. I try to install the FSUIPC 4.85 but it failed. I then installed my BlackboxSimulation Airbus ver 0.54. With the installer of this program is FSUIPC 4.84 and you know what..... it works. But ver 4.85 fails, at least for me.

Neither really work correctly with P3D 1.4. I'll be releasing version 4.852 tomorrow (Sunday) which is tested okay with 1.4. I actually paid for a copy of P3D rather than wait to get in touch with whoever has replaced John Nicol. I don't actually use P3D -- my FSX installation is running far too well for any changeover at present.

There's no way FSUIPC4 should ever be used with a version of FS it hasn't been written for. There are too many hooks in it which depend on inner structures and code positions. I do try to make it fail-safe rather than crash, but that doesn't mean it is working correctly. I didn't know about 1.4 until yesterday. I think a two day delay isn't bad. If and when version 2 of P3D comes out, I would expect it to take me a good bit longer!

Pete

[josan]

Thanks Pete, you have been in this Simworld for a long time and I look forward to your fantastic work and efforts for us simmers. But really, the P3D team have to rise up and show some respect for you.

You worth it Pete, have a nice week.

With Best Regards

Bjorn