New W7 install, GUIDs and assignments

[Kosta]

Hello Pete,

Man, I hope you can help me, I'm pulling my hairs over here.

I have all my devices assigned via FSUIPC.

In my old W7 setup all was well.

Yesterday I installed W7 new, and now all my assignments are mixed up.

I figured already out after reading what is in the manual about this that it is about the GUIDs and how they are assigned.

My old assignments are like this:

[JoyNames]

AutoAssignLetters=No

0=SideWinder Force Feedback 2 Joystick

0.GUID={6069C4D0-57D1-11DF-8001-444553540000}

1=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant (USB)

1.GUID={C2282A60-767C-11E1-8001-444553540000}

4=Logitech G13 Joystick

4.GUID={DC6A74B0-5F42-11E1-8004-444553540000}

2=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant (USB)

2.GUID={FA23FBB0-767C-11E1-8001-444553540000}

3=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals

3.GUID={3FA800F0-767D-11E1-8001-444553540000}

5...here is the yoke just apparently on the last boot up of FSX I didn't have the yoke on the table...

What my FSUIPC on the new W7 install created looks like this:

[JoyNames]

AutoAssignLetters=No

0=SideWinder Force Feedback 2 Joystick

0.GUID={F8DB7420-F0A4-11E1-8001-444553540000}

1=Logitech G13 Joystick

1.GUID={F8DBC240-F0A4-11E1-8002-444553540000}

2=PFC Yoke

2.GUID={F8DCACA0-F0A4-11E1-800D-444553540000}

3=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals

3.GUID={F8DCD3B0-F0A4-11E1-800E-444553540000}

4=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant

4.GUID={F8DCFAC0-F0A4-11E1-800F-444553540000}

5=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant

5.GUID={F8DCFAC0-F0A4-11E1-8010-444553540000}

As per old assignments table, 0 is my joystick, 1+2 are TQs, 3 are pedal, 4 is G13 pad and 5 is the PFC yoke.

The new install says 1 is G13, 2 is yoke, 3 pedals, and 4+5 TQ.

Now, my assignments in the FSUIPC are according to the old table, and changing them all would be a real real pain.

Is there any way I can assign controllers as they used to be? Please say there is a way :neutral:

Best

Kosta

[Pete Dowson]

Yesterday I installed W7 new, and now all my assignments are mixed up.

You presumably didn't bother to configure your FSUIPC to use joystick letters, as recommended in the User Guide?

I figured already out after reading what is in the manual about this that it is about the GUIDs and how they are assigned.

Really? I don't know how you read that. It is about joystick ID numbers (0-15), and they are assigned by Wndows in some way related to their USB connection. GUIDs are long numbers which can usually be relied on to uniquely identify a device, but FSUIPC only falls to them if the names are ambiguous, and it only uses the names if it is allowed to by you letting FSUIPC use Letters to ID devices instead of the usual numbers.

My old assignments are like this:

[JoyNames]

AutoAssignLetters=No

0=SideWinder Force Feedback 2 Joystick

0.GUID={6069C4D0-57D1-11DF-8001-444553540000}

1=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant (USB)

1.GUID={C2282A60-767C-11E1-8001-444553540000}

4=Logitech G13 Joystick

4.GUID={DC6A74B0-5F42-11E1-8004-444553540000}

2=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant (USB)

2.GUID={FA23FBB0-767C-11E1-8001-444553540000}

3=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals

3.GUID={3FA800F0-767D-11E1-8001-444553540000}

5...here is the yoke just apparently on the last boot up of FSX I didn't have the yoke on the table...

What my FSUIPC on the new W7 install created looks like this:

[JoyNames]

AutoAssignLetters=No

0=SideWinder Force Feedback 2 Joystick

0.GUID={F8DB7420-F0A4-11E1-8001-444553540000}

1=Logitech G13 Joystick

1.GUID={F8DBC240-F0A4-11E1-8002-444553540000}

2=PFC Yoke

2.GUID={F8DCACA0-F0A4-11E1-800D-444553540000}

3=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals

3.GUID={F8DCD3B0-F0A4-11E1-800E-444553540000}

4=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant

4.GUID={F8DCFAC0-F0A4-11E1-800F-444553540000}

5=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant

5.GUID={F8DCFAC0-F0A4-11E1-8010-444553540000}

Well, with those two to compare at least you can work out which ID number was which. You'll now need to edit all the [buttons] and [Axes] sections to provide the correct joystick numbers. Once you've done that and got it correct I suggest you change to using Joy Letters so you aren't faced with such a task again. For that refer to the User Guide section listed in the Contents list as

Keeping track of multiple control devices ("Joy Letters")

Is there any way I can assign controllers as they used to be? Please say there is a way :neutral:

Well, you could try unplugging them and re-plugging them in a different order (ie different ports) until you find the right order. Take them all out and try one at a time in each USB orifice until it assigns as you wish, then go to the next, and so on. You can do all this with FSUIPC options still displayed. Just press the "Reload" button to make it rescan devices each time.

When you do have it right, whichever order you do it in, have a read of the section in the User Guide you should really have read earlier. ;-)

Regards

Pete

[Kosta]

Alright, that will teach me... hopefully.

I'll go ahead and put those letters in place replacing hand by hand all my 15 profiles or so.

On another note: I remember for some reason I was unable earlier to disable controllers in FSX.

Is currently so that I can completely disable all controllers in FSX/P3D and just run it all off the FSUIPC?

[Pete Dowson]

I'll go ahead and put those letters in place replacing hand by hand all my 15 profiles or so.

Maybe a search and replace will work if you are careful with what you specify. Then at least you can do it batch-wise. I assume you feel that trying all USB ports would be more of a pain? I'm not sure myself which I'd prefer..

On another note: I remember for some reason I was unable earlier to disable controllers in FSX.

Why? The check box has always been there. Or do you mean because in old versions (over a year ago probably) mouse look wouldn't have worked? Now you can enable it in FSUIPC and assign its own mouslook on/off controls, or just use the middle button.

Is currently so that I can completely disable all controllers in FSX/P3D and just run it all off the FSUIPC?

It is certainly recommended to do this if you assign axes in FSUIPC, not in FSX, because otherwise FSX can mischievously re-assign things automatically if it sees them anew.

Regards

Pete

[Kosta]

If you knew how my cables are all in a hidden place in my table, you would understand why I didn't opt for that. I wouldn't know what is what without trial and error or without opening everything up.

Yes, it was something about Mouselook - I had to have enabled controllers, but had to painfully delete ALL controller assignments manually. Great. Controllers OFF.

Yes, that is what I have been waiting all along for!

Thanks for the most awesome support! :)