Saitek FIP's stopping FSUIPC 4.927a under Win 8.1

[RickSinGA]

I have no doubt that this is not an FSUIPC4 v 4.927a problem but maybe you could point me in the right direction.  I have been attempting to load FSX/wAcc in my new 8.1 build for days now.  I have sorted thru everything, I thought, until this problem popped up.

I am using 23 Saitek devices and all but the Flight Information Panels (FIP's) were finally up and running today without problems, believe me this was a challenge.

If I load the FIP panels which calls this section of the exe.xml file, and will not run without it,
        <Launch.Addon>
            <Name>Saitek DirectOutput RadioStack</Name>
            <Disabled>False</Disabled>
            <Path>C:\Program Files (x86)\Saitek\DirectOutput\SaiFlightSimX.exe</Path>
            <CommandLine>-run</CommandLine>
        </Launch.Addon>

the panels load and run just fine until there is any little hiccup in the system.  By that I mean if one of the FIP's needs to reload for some reason it locks up FSUIPC and my controls.  If I open FSUIPC it will not find any devices.  And, when I exit FSX I find that the Enable Joysticks, which had been showing JOYSTICKS=0 in the FSX.cfg is now missing and FSX loads with it enabled?  As I said, it ran fine unitil I started trying to install the FIP's which calls the Saitek program.

As long as the FIP's are loaded prior to selecting a flight , they work perfectly; if loaded after the flight is loaded, I have the described problem.

Here is my INI and Log files:

FSUIPC4.ini
[General]
UpdatedByVersion=4927a
History=OFT90BO8YW4BZE3PLZRCC
InitDelayDevicesToo=No
InterceptTextMenu=Yes
UseSystemTime=No
UseMidMouseBtn=Yes
MouseWheelMove=No
MouseWheelTrim=No
MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1
JoystickTimeout=20
PollGFTQ6=Yes
BlankDisplays=No
FixControlAccel=No
FixMachSpeedBug=No
DeleteVehiclesForAES=Yes
AutoScanDevices=Yes
VisibilityOptions=No
OneCloudLayer=No
CloudTurbulence=No
CloudIcing=No
GenerateCirrus=No
SuppressCloudTurbulence=No
MaxIce=-4
MinIce=-4
UpperWindGusts=No
SuppressWindTurbulence=No
SuppressWindVariance=No
WindTurbulence=No
TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0
TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40
SuppressAllGusts=No
MaxSurfaceWind=0
WindLimitLevel=200
WindDiscardLevel=400
WindAjustAltitude=No
WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000
SmoothBySimTime=No
WindSmoothing=No
WindSmoothness=2
WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes
PressureSmoothness=0
TemperatureSmoothness=0
DisconnTrimForAP=No
ZeroElevForAPAlt=No
ThrottleSyncAll=No
WhiteMessages=No
ShowPMcontrols=No
SpoilerIncrement=512
MagicBattery=No
RudderSpikeRemoval=No
ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No
AileronSpikeRemoval=No
ReversedElevatorTrim=No
ClockSync=No
ClockSyncMins=5
ClearWeatherDynamics=No
OwnWeatherChanges=No
TimeForSelect=4
LoadFlightMenu=No
LoadPlanMenu=No
PauseAfterCrash=No
BrakeReleaseThreshold=75
SaveDataWithFlights=No
ZapSound=firework
ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring
UseProfiles=Yes
EnableMouseLook=No
AxesWrongRange=No
TCASid=Flight
TCASrange=40
AxisCalibration=No
DirectAxesToCalibs=No
ShowMultilineWindow=Yes
SuppressSingleline=No
SuppressMultilineFS=No
AxisIntercepts=No
DontResetAxes=No
InitDelay=0
GetNearestAirports=Yes
OOMcheck=Yes
WeatherReadFactor=2
WeatherRewriteSeconds=1
CustomWeatherModify=No
SimConnectStallTime=1
LuaRerunDelay=66
Console=No
FSVersionUsed="Microsoft Flight Simulator X",10.0.61637.0
SimConnectUsed=10.0.61259.0

[JoyNames]
AutoAssignLetters=No
1=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals
1.GUID={51FE9810-6C06-11E3-8004-444553540000}
2=Saitek Pro Flight Yoke
2.GUID={7D242AE0-6C07-11E3-8008-444553540000}
3=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant
3.GUID={48BF94A0-6C08-11E3-8009-444553540000}
0=Saitek Pro Flight Cessna Trim Wheel
0.GUID={51F82F70-6C06-11E3-8002-444553540000}

[buttons]
ButtonRepeat=20,10

[AutoSave]
Next=1
Interval=60
Files=10
SaveOnGround=No
AutoSaveEnabled=No

[GPSout]
GPSoutEnabled=No

[GPSout2]
GPSoutEnabled=No

[WideServer]
WideFSenabled=Yes
AdvertiseService=1
Port=8002
Port2=9002

[sounds]
Path=D:\FSX\Sound\
Device1=Primary Sound Driver
Device2=Speakers (2- High Definition Audio Device)
Device3=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (2- High Definition Audio Device)
Device4=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (2- High Definition Audio Device)

[Axes]
RangeRepeatRate=10
0=0X,256,D,21,0,0,0
1=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0
2=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0
3=1R,256,D,3,0,0,0
4=2X,256,D,1,0,0,0
5=2Y,256,D,2,0,0,0
6=2Z,1,D,4,0,0,0
7=2U,256,D,5,0,0,0
8=2V,256,D,6,0,0,0

[JoystickCalibration]
AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes
ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes
ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes
ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes
SepRevsJetsOnly=No
ApplyHeloTrim=No
UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No
FlapsSetControl=0
FlapDetents=No
ReverserControl=66292
Reverser1Control=66422
Reverser2Control=66425
Reverser3Control=66428
Reverser4Control=66431
MaxThrottleForReverser=256
AileronTrimControl=66731
RudderTrimControl=66732
CowlFlaps1Control=66162
CowlFlaps2Control=66163
CowlFlaps3Control=66164
CowlFlaps4Control=66165
SteeringTillerControl=0
MaxSteerSpeed=60
Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380
LeftBrake=-16380,16380/16
RightBrake=0,16380/16
ElevatorTrim=-16380,128,128,16380/16
Throttle=-16380,16380/8
Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380
Rudder=-16380,-512,512,16380
PropPitch=-16380,16380
Mixture=-16380,16380

[Programs]
RunIf1=Ready,D:\spad\spad.exe

FSUIPC4.log
********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.927a by Pete Dowson *********
Running inside FSX on Windows 8
Module base=6F610000
User Name="Rick Sheehan"
User Addr="ricks@datacruz.com"
FSUIPC4 Key is provided
WideFS7 Key is provided
       15 System time = 10/01/2014 13:52:39
       31 FLT UNC path = "\\RICKS4600\Users\Rick S\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\"
      531 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ...
      531 FS UNC path = "D:\FSX\"
      796 LogOptions=00000000 00000001
      796 SIM1 Frictions access gained
      796 Wind smoothing fix is fully installed
      796 G3D.DLL fix attempt installed ok
      796 SimConnect intercept for texts and menus installed ok
      796 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay
      796 Trying to use SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07
     3218 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61637.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0)
     3218 Initialising SimConnect data requests now
     3218 FSUIPC Menu entry added
     3265 \\RICKS4600\Users\Rick S\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\172spG100.FLT
     3265 D:\FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes\C172\Cessna172SP.AIR
    16937 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
    16953 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
    17093 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
    17265 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
    17421 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
    17593 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
    21453 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
    21609 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
    21781 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
    21921 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
    22093 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
    22234 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
    94984 Aircraft="Cessna Skyhawk 172SP G1000"
    94984 System time = 10/01/2014 13:54:14, Simulator time = 13:52:42 (21:52Z)
   104421 Starting everything now ...
   104468 Run: "D:\spad\spad.exe"
   105625 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled
   150093 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 50 secs = 29.3 fps
   655562 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
   655562 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
   655687 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
   655875 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
   656031 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
   656218 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
   706859 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
   706859 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
   707046 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
   707203 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
   707343 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
   707531 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
   710421 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
   710562 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
   710734 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
   710875 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
   711046 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
   711203 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections
   730984 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 578 secs = 27.5 fps
   734812 Weather Mode now = Theme
   734812 \\RICKS4600\Users\Rick S\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\Previous flight.FLT
   755546 System time = 10/01/2014 14:05:15, Simulator time = 14:03:10 (22:03Z)
   755546 *** FSUIPC log file being closed
Average frame rate for running time of 628 secs = 27.6 fps
G3D fix: Passes 26041, Null pointers 0, Bad pointers 0, Separate instances 0
Memory managed: 293 Allocs, 293 Freed
********* FSUIPC Log file closed ***********


Could you please point me in a direction?

Thanks
Rick S.

[RickSinGA]

Well, it appaers all I had to do for the DRIVER crash problem was read the FSUIPC4 Advanced Users Guide; voila ther it was, and it worked.  Now, what is putting the CONTROLS=0 back into the FSX.CFG?

 

AutoScanDevices: This is normally set to 'Yes', to make FSUIPC4 automatically re-scan all connected DirectInput devices each time the Options dialogue is entered. This makes sure devices newly connected are seen. If you don't want this to occur, set it to 'No'. The devices will then only be re-scanned if you press the 'reload' button in either the Axes or Button assignments tabs. I

 

f you never want it to rescan devices (for example, in Windows 8 there seems to be problems doing this), then set this parameter to 'Never' instead.

 

Note that unless disabled here, FSUIPC4 automatically re-scans connections each time it detects any HID USB device connecting. This may help get over problems some folks have with badly behaving devices or USB ports, albeit with a noticeable pause or hesitation (which actually occurs even without any action by FSUIPC to re-connect). A message is logged when this occurs. Note that this doesn't go so far as to allow reconnecting to different USB ports during flight modes.

 

Hope this helps others.

Rick S.

[Pete Dowson]

Now, what is putting the CONTROLS=0 back into the FSX.CFG?

 

I don't know "Controls=0". Assuming you mean Joysticks=1 then I don't know. I've had that happen to me, but not often. I think it's an FSX bug.

 

Pete

[RickSinGA]

Yes Joysticks, bad case of O.L.D., sorry.  It has happened to me several times today; not sure I remember or even realized it ever happening before?  I just have to make sure and check it before loading a flight or I get a fight between FSX and FSUIPC4 for control.

 

Thanks for a great program.

Rick S.