Pan views with hat switch

RickJH · March 29, 2014

Hi,

I have a registered version of FSUIPC & recently I had to get Microsoft involved in repairing my PC as my Windows defender was corrupted.

To cut a long story short - they deleted my original user profile & created a fresh one & copied all my files over (2 days it took!).

I have a lot of addons on FSX but with these recent fixes, some of my addons have been acting a little strange, so I have been removing & re-installing some of the affected files.

I have re-installed FSUIPC, deleted my original .ini file, & have been setting up exactly as instructed in the forums (& from a great video from frooglesim -

) - disabling all FSX view/button controls in FSX itself.

Everything is working perfectly apart from the pan views either inside or out. - They "twitch" left & right, reluctantly goes up, basically, un-useable.

I read a post here from Peter about posting their log file which may display the fault, so I am pleading to the world, what is wrong with my settings.

I followed the instructions to include the views in "Buttons & switches", assigning my hat switch increments in the "Select for FS control" settings as up = Pan reset = 0, Look up left =Pan view = 45, etc. etc. until back to 0 which is pan reset.

Am I doing the right thing as it's not working?? :sad:

Here is my log file if anyone can make sense of it!....

Console Started ...

323969 [buttons] now profile-specific:

323969 16=R0,14,K190,8

326266 KEYDOWN: VK=80, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0

326266 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS

326266 *** EVENT: Cntrl= 65561 (0x00010019), Param= 0 (0x00000000) PAUSE_TOGGLE

326359 KEYUP: VK=80, Waiting=0

330266 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

330266 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=38 (RepeatDelayCtr=1)

330266 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=66416, Param=270

330266 *** EVENT: Cntrl= 66416 (0x00010370), Param= 270 (0x0000010e) PAN_VIEW

330281 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

330359 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

330359 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=38 (RepeatDelayCtr=2)

330359 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

330437 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

330437 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=38 (RepeatDelayCtr=3)

330437 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

330516 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

330516 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=38 (RepeatDelayCtr=4)

330516 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

330609 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

330609 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=38 (RepeatDelayCtr=5)

330609 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

330687 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

330687 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=38 (RepeatDelayCtr=6)

330687 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

330766 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

330766 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=38 (RepeatDelayCtr=7)

330766 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

330859 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

330859 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=38 (RepeatDelayCtr=8)

330859 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

330937 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

330937 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=38 (RepeatDelayCtr=9)

330937 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

331016 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

331016 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=38 (RepeatDelayCtr=10)

331031 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

332437 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

332437 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=34 (RepeatDelayCtr=1)

332437 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=66416, Param=90

332437 *** EVENT: Cntrl= 66416 (0x00010370), Param= 90 (0x0000005a) PAN_VIEW

332437 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

332516 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

332516 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=34 (RepeatDelayCtr=2)

332516 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

332609 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

332609 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=34 (RepeatDelayCtr=3)

332609 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

332687 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

332687 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=34 (RepeatDelayCtr=4)

332687 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

332781 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

332781 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=34 (RepeatDelayCtr=5)

332781 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

332859 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

332859 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=34 (RepeatDelayCtr=6)

332859 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

334781 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 8=P0,32,C65875,0

334781 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65875, Param=0

334781 *** EVENT: Cntrl= 65875 (0x00010153), Param= 0 (0x00000000) PAN_RESET

336359 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 12=R0,36,C66416,180

336359 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=36 (RepeatDelayCtr=1)

336359 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=66416, Param=180

336359 *** EVENT: Cntrl= 66416 (0x00010370), Param= 180 (0x000000b4) PAN_VIEW

336359 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 12=R0,36,C66416,180

336453 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 12=R0,36,C66416,180

336453 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=36 (RepeatDelayCtr=2)

336453 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 12=R0,36,C66416,180

336531 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 12=R0,36,C66416,180

336531 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=36 (RepeatDelayCtr=3)

336531 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 12=R0,36,C66416,180

336625 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 12=R0,36,C66416,180

336625 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=36 (RepeatDelayCtr=4)

336625 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 12=R0,36,C66416,180

336703 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 12=R0,36,C66416,180

336719 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=36 (RepeatDelayCtr=5)

336719 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 12=R0,36,C66416,180

336797 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 12=R0,36,C66416,180

336797 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=36 (RepeatDelayCtr=6)

336797 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 12=R0,36,C66416,180

336891 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 12=R0,36,C66416,180

336891 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=36 (RepeatDelayCtr=7)

336891 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 12=R0,36,C66416,180

336969 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 12=R0,36,C66416,180

336969 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=36 (RepeatDelayCtr=8)

336984 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 12=R0,36,C66416,180

337062 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 12=R0,36,C66416,180

337062 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=36 (RepeatDelayCtr=9)

337062 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 12=R0,36,C66416,180

338922 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

338922 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=38 (RepeatDelayCtr=1)

338922 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=66416, Param=270

338922 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

338922 *** EVENT: Cntrl= 66416 (0x00010370), Param= 270 (0x0000010e) PAN_VIEW

339000 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

339000 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=38 (RepeatDelayCtr=2)

339000 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

339094 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 13=R0,37,C66416,225

339094 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=37 (RepeatDelayCtr=1)

339094 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=66416, Param=225

339094 *** EVENT: Cntrl= 66416 (0x00010370), Param= 225 (0x000000e1) PAN_VIEW

339109 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 13=R0,37,C66416,225

339187 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 13=R0,37,C66416,225

339187 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=37 (RepeatDelayCtr=2)

339187 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 13=R0,37,C66416,225

339281 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 13=R0,37,C66416,225

339281 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=37 (RepeatDelayCtr=3)

339281 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 13=R0,37,C66416,225

339359 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 13=R0,37,C66416,225

339359 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=37 (RepeatDelayCtr=4)

339359 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 13=R0,37,C66416,225

339453 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 13=R0,37,C66416,225

339453 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=37 (RepeatDelayCtr=5)

339453 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 13=R0,37,C66416,225

339531 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 13=R0,37,C66416,225

339531 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=37 (RepeatDelayCtr=6)

339531 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 13=R0,37,C66416,225

339609 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 13=R0,37,C66416,225

339609 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=37 (RepeatDelayCtr=7)

339609 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 13=R0,37,C66416,225

339703 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 13=R0,37,C66416,225

339703 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=37 (RepeatDelayCtr=8)

339703 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 13=R0,37,C66416,225

339781 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

339781 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=38 (RepeatDelayCtr=1)

339781 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=66416, Param=270

339781 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 14=R0,38,C66416,270

339781 *** EVENT: Cntrl= 66416 (0x00010370), Param= 270 (0x0000010e) PAN_VIEW

340437 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

340437 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=34 (RepeatDelayCtr=1)

340437 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=66416, Param=90

340437 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

340453 *** EVENT: Cntrl= 66416 (0x00010370), Param= 90 (0x0000005a) PAN_VIEW

340531 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

340531 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=34 (RepeatDelayCtr=2)

340531 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

340609 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

340609 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=34 (RepeatDelayCtr=3)

340609 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

340687 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

340687 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=34 (RepeatDelayCtr=4)

340687 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

340766 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

340766 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=34 (RepeatDelayCtr=5)

340766 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

340844 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

340844 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=34 (RepeatDelayCtr=6)

340859 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

340937 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

340937 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=34 (RepeatDelayCtr=7)

340937 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

341016 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

341016 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=34 (RepeatDelayCtr=8)

341016 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 10=R0,34,C66416,90

341094 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 11=R0,35,C66416,135

341094 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=35 (RepeatDelayCtr=1)

341094 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=66416, Param=135

341094 *** EVENT: Cntrl= 66416 (0x00010370), Param= 135 (0x00000087) PAN_VIEW

341094 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 11=R0,35,C66416,135

341172 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 11=R0,35,C66416,135

341172 Repeating flag set: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=35 (RepeatDelayCtr=2)

341172 [buttons.jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet] 11=R0,35,C66416,135

346000 *** EVENT: Cntrl= 65794 (0x00010102), Param= 0 (0x00000000) PAUSE_ON

Any help would be greatly appreciated (& I mean greatly!)!

Thank you

Rick

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Pete Dowson · March 29, 2014

Everything is working perfectly apart from the pan views either inside or out. - They "twitch" left & right, reluctantly goes up, basically, un-useable.

I read a post here from Peter about posting their log file which may display the fault, so I am pleading to the world, what is wrong with my settings.

I followed the instructions to include the views in "Buttons & switches", assigning my hat switch increments in the "Select for FS control" settings as up = Pan reset = 0, Look up left =Pan view = 45, etc. etc. until back to 0 which is pan reset.

Am I doing the right thing as it's not working??

Partial logs don't give enough crucial information. Please always include all the initial stuff next time.

Oh, and if you aren't using version 4.929 or later, please update now, as I do not support old versions.

Now, onto your question. First, where are you finding any instructions for assigning to PAN VIEW in "Buttons and Switches"? Pan view is an AXIS control!

If you want to use your Hat to get specific views the old way you use the Pan left/down/up/right etc controls, as per the example on page 32 in the FSUIPC User Guide. That example originally dates from FS2004 where there was no alternative. The FSX specific example (the second one there) only uses Pan view with parameter -1 in order to reset the view to forwards.

In FSX it is far better to use Pan view as an axis -- assign your Hat to Pan view. That's all you have to do -- do this in the Axes tab, NOT the Buttons & Switches tab!

I didn't watch the video you linked to (no time), but if it is telling you to do things the wrong way you should comment back to the author on that.

Pete

RickJH · March 29, 2014

Hi Pete,

Partial logs don't give enough crucial information. Please always include all the initial stuff next time.

Sorry, I just ran it for a few seconds & as I have never used this before I am unsure what you mean by "Please always include all the initial stuff next time."

Now, onto your question. First, where are you finding any instructions for assigning to PAN VIEW in "Buttons and Switches"? Pan view is an AXIS control!

It could have been from an old search result. I did notice a mention of this.
I'm sorry, but being slightly confused, to assign it as an AXIS control, do I set it as "Send direct to FSUIPC Calibration" or as "Send to FS as normal axis" & which pan command do I select in the list?

Rick

RickJH · March 29, 2014

Soory, forgot to mention - it is V 4.929.

Rick

Pete Dowson · March 29, 2014

Sorry, I just ran it for a few seconds & as I have never used this before I am unsure what you mean by "Please always include all the initial stuff next time."

By "the initial stuff" I mean all of the lines in the file from the very start. You took the file and extracted part of it to show me even though you "only ran it for a few seconds". Why remove any of the lines at all? FSUIPC deliberately includes lots of information about where it is, what it is, what FS is and so on, so I can help when folks submit logs.

I'm sorry, but being slightly confused, to assign it as an AXIS control, do I set it as "Send direct to FSUIPC Calibration" or as "Send to FS as normal axis"

Well, the answer would be obvious if you tried, because the PAN VIEW command is not one which is subject to calibration and is therefore not listed in the "direct to calibration" option. PAN VIEW is an FS control and is in the FS controls list.

& which pan command do I select in the list?

Er, how about Pan view, the one I explicitly told you to assign to and the one you were misusing in the Buttons & Switches section? ;-)

I know you are a beginner, but you do need to read the answers, please. Okay? ;-)

Pete

RickJH · March 29, 2014

Well, the answer would be obvious if you tried.....

To be honest,you surprise me.

I paid good money for this, & I don't expect this level of patronizing customer support.

Maybe you need to look at your customer support ethics.

Thanks for your sympathetic support & as a believer of todays' software developers hard work, I am proud to say I have spent hundreds of pounds on software addons since the earlier days of MS Simulator & have many times, received a level of customer service one would expect when they pay for their product.

Unbelievable.

Pete Dowson · March 30, 2014

Unbelievable.

So you got no answer? It didn't help?

By "if you tried" I honestly thought you would have actually read my previous reply where I said to assign to "pan view". The "pan view" control is only listed in the FS controls list, not in the direct to calibration list, so you only had to look and you'd have found it in the correct list. I really don't see why pointing that out is such a dreadful thing for me to do!

It was later in your message I actually saw that you didn't read my previous reply properly and hadn't even seen (or had ignored) the advice to assign to pan view, so perhaps the earlier comment became inappropriate. However, I reply serially. perhaps you could forgive me for that in the circumstances.

Also perhaps I have a different view of what good support entails. Support doesn't just mean providing a crutch, it also means helping folks to help themselves. Some folks need more help than others, as seemed obvious in your case. Others apply themselves a little more and so don't need it so much. If you think trying to get folks to help themselves more is patronizing then I feel sorry for you, and I'm surprised is isn't something you experience more of...

May I respectfully suggest you peruse more of this Forum and see just how much support I give to FSUIPC users, and how it varies enormously from very detailed to just plain references to documentation. Different answers for different folks in different circumstances. And all this despite the fact that FSUIPC itself is now 15 years old. Many products have support withdrawn in much less time despite still being sold. And, except when I'm away, i not only support folks within minutes (ok, a few hours if I'm asleep of course), but also take on suggestions and add facilities requested by folks where these can be accomplished without jeopardising stability.

I really do try my best and find it very upsetting when I encounter folks with your attitude. Luckily this isn't too often, else I would have quit long ago. I'd have more time to fly my simulator then.

Pete

RickJH · March 30, 2014

So you got no answer? It didn't help?

By "if you tried" I honestly thought you would have actually read my previous reply where I said to assign to "pan view". The "pan view" control is only listed in the FS controls list, not in the direct to calibration list, so you only had to look and you'd have found it in the correct list. I really don't see why pointing that out is such a dreadful thing for me to do!

It was later in your message I actually saw that you didn't read my previous reply properly and hadn't even seen (or had ignored) the advice to assign to pan view, so perhaps the earlier comment became inappropriate. However, I reply serially. perhaps you could forgive me for that in the circumstances.

Also perhaps I have a different view of what good support entails. Support doesn't just mean providing a crutch, it also means helping folks to help themselves. Some folks need more help than others, as seemed obvious in your case. Others apply themselves a little more and so don't need it so much. If you think trying to get folks to help themselves more is patronizing then I feel sorry for you, and I'm surprised is isn't something you experience more of...

May I respectfully suggest you peruse more of this Forum and see just how much support I give to FSUIPC users, and how it varies enormously from very detailed to just plain references to documentation. Different answers for different folks in different circumstances. And all this despite the fact that FSUIPC itself is now 15 years old. Many products have support withdrawn in much less time despite still being sold. And, except when I'm away, i not only support folks within minutes (ok, a few hours if I'm asleep of course), but also take on suggestions and add facilities requested by folks where these can be accomplished without jeopardising stability.

I really do try my best and find it very upsetting when I encounter folks with your attitude. Luckily this isn't too often, else I would have quit long ago. I'd have more time to fly my simulator then.

Pete

RickJH · March 30, 2014

Pete,

All I was asking for was a yes/no answer. I understand you have created a fundemental & very useful addon for our hobby to continue.

I am a software user, not an expert. My job involves using software all day.

You are obviously a very talented guy who has developed something really (& I mean really) good. Your software is now a fundemental part of FSX.

Yes, I may be a bit pre "RFM" but please, just say, yes that's right, no that's wrong.

All I ask is guide me through the hat switch settings in plain step by step English & I will be on my way a happy user!

Maybe there are others out there who don't share you're knowledge but simply want a question easily resolved by a simple do this, do that (like me).

I have read the manual, but (for me personally) is a little daunting but all controls work apart from panning.

No offence Pete, your software is essential I know, but please, just say click this, do that as far as panning is concerned.

Rick

PS FSUIPC is essential & I thank you for it!

Pete Dowson · March 30, 2014

All I ask is guide me through the hat switch settings in plain step by step English & I will be on my way a happy user!

Maybe there are others out there who don't share you're knowledge but simply want a question easily resolved by a simple do this, do that (like me).

Well. did you accomplish it yet?

1. Run FSX, get to flight mode

2. Go to Add-Ons / FSUIPC menu

3. Select Axis Assignment tab

4. Operate the hat till it is seen in the window at top

5. Select 'Send to FS as normal axis'

6. Check one of the 4 assignment lines

7. Press the drop-down arrow to get the list -- It is in alphanumeric order

8. Find and select Pan View.

9. OK out.

If you want pictures please check pages 41-43 in the User Guide.

This is surely all pretty simple stuff even for beginners? The above 9 steps accomplish what I meant by telling you to "assign to Pan View" in my much earlier reply (the part you sadly missed or ignored), and that sort of simple statement has been enough for most folks coming here for help. I'm sorry it didn't work for you, but perhaps if you could find time to look further at the User Guide you'd be better off as I'm sure you could find answers more efficiently and effectively that way. It is actually written in normal English, not "technicalese", and has been enhanced over the 15 years to answer all sorts of "beginner" questions. The only possible reason it might appear "daunting" is simply that there's a lot of things you can do. FSUIPC is a toolkit. The manual tries mostly to explain what the tools do rather than how to do specific things, because there are an almost unlimited number of things which can be done. Think of trying to provide a manual for everything you can do with a simple set of household tools -- you don't, you just provide operating details for the tools themselves.

Pete

RickJH · March 31, 2014

Well I've done exactly what you suggest & it only pans up/down not right or left. Everything else works fine for the buttons/calibration etc.

I have checked all settings, so I'm wondering if my fsx is corrupted since the repair.

I also use EZdok & that is not functioning correctly (after a clean re-install) as it used to before.

Pete Dowson · March 31, 2014

Well I've done exactly what you suggest & it only pans up/down not right or left. Everything else works fine for the buttons/calibration etc.

I have checked all settings, so I'm wondering if my fsx is corrupted since the repair..

I really don't know any way you can actually stop PAN VIEW from moving the view in all 4 directions, it is just a simple built-in FS facility. All FSUIPC will be doing is sending the control with its value to FS.

Does panning work in FS if you enable controllers in FS? It should be the same.

Also check for conflicts -- you did try assignments in the Button & Switches tab before. You need those deleted. If you aren't sure what to do, show me the Axes and Buttons sections from your FSUIPC4 INI file.

I also use EZdok & that is not functioning correctly

Hmm. Test your panning without EZdok running to see if that's interfering -- you can close it as it is a separately running EXE file.

Pete

RickJH · March 31, 2014

Thanks, I'll take a look tomorrow & try what you suggest. I have absolutely no joystick assignments in the FSX control menu (I deleted them as EZdok recommends you have to on some of them).

I'll try too to use it with EZdok off as you say as well.

Many Thanks

Rick

Pete Dowson · March 31, 2014

I have absolutely no joystick assignments in the FSX control menu (I deleted them as EZdok recommends you have to on some of them).

But you still have Controllers enabled in FS?

The hat is assigned automatically (by default) to Pan View in FS, but this is listed in its Buttons/Keys table, not its axes table, for some odd reason. So check there -- in fact test if it works in all directions there.

And note that if you haven't actually disabled controllers in FS then it can (and may have already) automatically reassign axes and buttons. It is for this reason you are advised to either assign all in FS or all in FSUIPC, not a mixture of both.

Pete

RickJH · April 1, 2014

Hi Pete,

Just to let you know I quit EZdok & panning worked smooth & effortless in all directions, I restarted again with it running & had the same old problem again! I did a re-install of EZdok the other day & the original problems I had remained (I think I will to delete all reference to it & re-install again from scratch).

Just one other question (& again this may be obvious to you - but I am struggling to get it to function properly), which key press is it for select next view for FSUIPC as & want this as a button press on my joystick? (reason I ask is A/ShiftA - S/Shift S is assigned in EZdok).

Also just for info, here is my FSUIPC4 ini file:

[General]

UpdatedByVersion=4929

History=KAHBN5IW0QQJ7SXFAZSDK

InitDelayDevicesToo=No

NewInterceptTextMenu=No

UseSystemTime=Yes

UseMidMouseBtn=Yes

MouseWheelMove=No

MouseWheelTrim=No

MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1

JoystickTimeout=20

PollGFTQ6=Yes

BlankDisplays=No

FixControlAccel=No

FixMachSpeedBug=No

DeleteVehiclesForAES=Yes

AutoScanDevices=Yes

VisibilityOptions=No

OneCloudLayer=No

CloudTurbulence=No

CloudIcing=No

GenerateCirrus=No

SuppressCloudTurbulence=No

MaxIce=-4

MinIce=-4

UpperWindGusts=No

SuppressWindTurbulence=No

SuppressWindVariance=No

WindTurbulence=No

TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0

TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40

SuppressAllGusts=No

MaxSurfaceWind=0

WindLimitLevel=200

WindDiscardLevel=400

WindAjustAltitude=No

WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000

SmoothBySimTime=No

WindSmoothing=Yes

WindSmoothness=5

WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes

PressureSmoothness=0

TemperatureSmoothness=0

DisconnTrimForAP=No

ZeroElevForAPAlt=No

ThrottleSyncAll=No

WhiteMessages=No

ShowPMcontrols=No

SpoilerIncrement=512

MagicBattery=Yes

RudderSpikeRemoval=No

ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No

AileronSpikeRemoval=No

ReversedElevatorTrim=No

ClockSync=Yes

ClockSyncMins=5

ClearWeatherDynamics=No

OwnWeatherChanges=No

TimeForSelect=4

LoadFlightMenu=No

LoadPlanMenu=No

PauseAfterCrash=Yes

BrakeReleaseThreshold=75

SaveDataWithFlights=No

ZapSound=firework

ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring

UseProfiles=Yes

EnableMouseLook=No

DelayedMouseLookZoom=No

AxesWrongRange=No

TCASid=Flight

TCASrange=40

AxisCalibration=No

DirectAxesToCalibs=No

ShowMultilineWindow=Yes

SuppressSingleline=No

SuppressMultilineFS=No

AxisIntercepts=No

DontResetAxes=No

InitDelay=0

GetNearestAirports=Yes

OOMcheck=Yes

WeatherReadFactor=2

WeatherRewriteSeconds=1

CustomWeatherModify=No

SimConnectStallTime=1

LuaRerunDelay=66

Console=No

ConsoleWindow=182,182,859,782

FSVersionUsed="Microsoft Flight Simulator X",10.0.61637.0

SimConnectUsed=10.0.61259.0

[JoyNames]

AutoAssignLetters=No

0=Saitek X52 Pro Flight Controller

0.GUID={9430D590-B689-11E3-8001-444553540000}

[buttons]

ButtonRepeat=20,10

1=P0,14,K190,8

[AutoSave]

Next=1

Interval=60

Files=10

SaveOnGround=No

AutoSaveEnabled=No

[GPSout]

GPSoutEnabled=No

[GPSout2]

GPSoutEnabled=No

[WideServer]

WideFSenabled=Yes

[sounds]

Path=C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Sound\

Device1=Primary Sound Driver

Device2=Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)

Device3=Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)

Device4=DELL S2440L-4 (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)

Device5=DELL S2440L-C (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)

[Profile.JF A319]

1=jf_A319-111_CFM56-5B5/P_easyjet

[buttons.JF A319]

0=P0,9,C65758,0

1=P0,8,C65759,0

2=R0,19,C65607,0

3=R0,21,C65615,0

4=P0,4,K50,8

5=P0,11,C66064,0

6=P0,10,C66065,0

7=P0,13,K51,9

16=R0,14,K190,8

17=P0,3,K190,10

[JoystickCalibration]

AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes

ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes

ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes

ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes

SepRevsJetsOnly=No

ApplyHeloTrim=No

UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No

FlapsSetControl=0

FlapDetents=No

ReverserControl=66292

Reverser1Control=66422

Reverser2Control=66425

Reverser3Control=66428

Reverser4Control=66431

MaxThrottleForReverser=256

AileronTrimControl=66731

RudderTrimControl=66732

CowlFlaps1Control=66162

CowlFlaps2Control=66163

CowlFlaps3Control=66164

CowlFlaps4Control=66165

SteeringTillerControl=0

MaxSteerSpeed=60

[Axes.JF A319]

RangeRepeatRate=10

0=0X,256,D,1,0,0,0

1=0Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

2=0Z,256,D,4,0,0,0

3=0R,256,D,3,0,0,0

4=0P,0,F,66416,0,0,0

[JoystickCalibration.JF A319]

AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes

ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes

ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes

ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes

SepRevsJetsOnly=No

ApplyHeloTrim=No

UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No

FlapsSetControl=0

FlapDetents=No

ReverserControl=66292

Reverser1Control=66422

Reverser2Control=66425

Reverser3Control=66428

Reverser4Control=66431

MaxThrottleForReverser=256

AileronTrimControl=66731

RudderTrimControl=66732

CowlFlaps1Control=66162

CowlFlaps2Control=66163

CowlFlaps3Control=66164

CowlFlaps4Control=66165

SteeringTillerControl=0

MaxSteerSpeed=60

Aileron=-16384,32,512,11360/8

Elevator=-16384,128,512,16192/8

Rudder=-16287,32,512,16383/8

Throttle=-16384,16256

Throttle1=-16380,-512,512,16380

If you do notice anything, please do let me know.

Cheers

Rick

RickJH · April 1, 2014

Sorry forgot to say, my controller is always disabled (I always check)

Rick

Pete Dowson · April 1, 2014

Just one other question (& again this may be obvious to you - but I am struggling to get it to function properly), which key press is it for select next view for FSUIPC as & want this as a button press on my joystick? (reason I ask is A/ShiftA - S/Shift S is assigned in EZdok).

You've re-assigned the keypress to Ezdok. I assume it isn't really the keypress you want (because that's chosen as needed by you, if you wanted to use the keyboard) but the correct FS control?

The normal way of determining which control is which is to use the default FS keypress for it when Event logging is enabled in FSUIPC, then check the log to see which control it invoked. But if the keypresses A and S no longer invoke those, because of Ezdok, then it isn't so easy. However, I think they are these

Next view

Next sub view

but i'm not sure which is normally A and which S. The shift versions would be Prev view and Prev sub view.

There is a list of controls installed in your FSUIPC Documents folder which you might find useful.

Regarding your INI file, here are some observations:

You have just one button assigned and no axes assigned or calibrated for anything but the one specific aircraft. This is most odd. it is really best to do all the general assignments and calibrations and only do specific things for specific aircraft when they need something different. Then, when you add aircraft, you can use the generic setup as a base and merely make the specific changes you find you need. The way you have it you would be starting from scratch every time.

A minor thing. In the JF A319 calibration section:

Throttle=-16384,16256

Throttle1=-16380,-512,512,16380

The generic throttle calibration (Throttle=) covers all engines. Not sure why you have a single throttle 1 calibration as well, though by the look of it you've not actually gone through the calibration process -- the values are defaults. You don't actually have a separate Throttle 1 axis assignment so it has no actual effect. Best to delete that "Throttle1=" line now in case it comes into play one day.

Regards

Pete

RickJH · April 1, 2014

HI Pete,

The only reason there is only one aircraft is that I have re-installed FSUIPC & want to start fresh with one aircraft before moving on to the next (by using this as my generic setup).

Thanks for your observations, I'll delete the line as recommended.

Will browse through the documents too.

I have also just completely removed EZdok & will attend to this later.

Many thanks again

Rick

RickJH · April 1, 2014

Pete,

After all this time I think I know what the problem was!

I completely removed EZdok removing all traces & mad a fresh install, then by going through everything (as the problem happened again with panning) I discoverd under Joystick configuration within the program, my controller had to be selected in J1!

Now it works sweet!

Will keep you updated if anything else arises.

Apologies for before but thanks to you I managed to sort it - oh & I have configured the change view button on the joystick as keypress S (view next catagory).

Thanks

Rick

Pan views with hat switch

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