CH Throttle Quadrant Problems

[joshfellows1997]

Hi guys hope you are all well, so I have FSUIPC4 the most updated version and this applies for P3DV2.5 and FSX, what happens is when I move one of my throttle quadrant levers (Second one in from the left if anyone needs to know) I originally used this as Throttle 1 for my Concorde and other 4 engined aircraft but now the data has made it so that it jumps from -16384 to 0 then goes up to 16383 while all my others do it correctly by going through all of the correct data, I have had it working great before but now it doesnt and jumps which means it jumps up the engine number 1 which is bad especially in the Concorde while my other 3 engines go up correctly with the throttle, so is anyone able to help fix this I have checked on the CH control panel and it works great on that with no problem but for FSUIPC it seems to have the problem. It is the paid version and is the most latest.

 

Thanks in advance

Josh

[Pete Dowson]

 I originally used this as Throttle 1 for my Concorde and other 4 engined aircraft but now the data has made it so that it jumps from -16384 to 0 then goes up to 16383

 

There is no "data it can make" which causes this, only the possibility that you have not calibrated it at all. I can't tell without more information -- check your FSUIPC4.INI file. You can paste its contents in a message here if you want.

 

Pete

[joshfellows1997]

Hi Pete I have calibrated it and it works fine in the CH throttle manager and it is also smooth and no jumping so its definetly from FSUIPC I think. Here is the Ini file: 

 

[General]

UpdatedByVersion=4939k

History=RDEGLCGT5OK4KDO4JD6RW

InitDelayDevicesToo=No

NewInterceptTextMenu=No

UseSystemTime=No

UseMidMouseBtn=Yes

MouseWheelMove=No

MouseWheelTrim=No

MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1

JoystickTimeout=20

PollGFTQ6=Yes

BlankDisplays=No

FixControlAccel=No

FixMachSpeedBug=No

DeleteVehiclesForAES=Yes

AutoScanDevices=Yes

VisibilityOptions=No

OneCloudLayer=No

CloudTurbulence=No

CloudIcing=No

GenerateCirrus=No

SuppressCloudTurbulence=No

MaxIce=-4

MinIce=-4

UpperWindGusts=No

SuppressWindTurbulence=No

SuppressWindVariance=No

WindTurbulence=No

TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0

TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40

SuppressAllGusts=No

MaxSurfaceWind=0

WindLimitLevel=200

WindDiscardLevel=400

WindAjustAltitude=No

WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000

SmoothBySimTime=No

WindSmoothing=No

WindSmoothness=2

WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes

PressureSmoothness=0

TemperatureSmoothness=0

DisconnTrimForAP=No

ZeroElevForAPAlt=No

ThrottleSyncAll=No

WhiteMessages=No

ShowPMcontrols=No

SpoilerIncrement=512

MagicBattery=No

RudderSpikeRemoval=No

ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No

AileronSpikeRemoval=No

ReversedElevatorTrim=No

ClockSync=No

ClockSyncMins=5

ClearWeatherDynamics=No

OwnWeatherChanges=No

TimeForSelect=4

LoadFlightMenu=No

LoadPlanMenu=No

PauseAfterCrash=No

BrakeReleaseThreshold=75

SaveDataWithFlights=No

ZapSound=firework

ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring

UseProfiles=Yes

EnableMouseLook=No

DelayedMouseLookZoom=No

AxesWrongRange=No

TCASid=Flight

TCASrange=40

AxisCalibration=No

DirectAxesToCalibs=No

ShowMultilineWindow=Yes

SuppressSingleline=No

SuppressMultilineFS=No

AxisIntercepts=No

DontResetAxes=No

InitDelay=0

GetNearestAirports=No

OOMcheck=Yes

WeatherReadFactor=2

WeatherRewriteSeconds=1

CustomWeatherModify=No

SimConnectStallTime=1

InitialStallTime=10

NormalStallTime=1

LuaRerunDelay=66

Console=No

FSVersionUsed="Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v2",2.5.12945.0

SimConnectUsed=2.5.0.0

 

[JoyNames]

AutoAssignLetters=No

 

[Axes]

PollInterval=10

RangeRepeatRate=10

0=2X,256,D,1,0,0,0

1=2Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

2=2Z,256,D,4,0,0,0

3=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0

 

[buttons]

PollInterval=25

ButtonRepeat=20,10

1=R2,0,C65588,0

2=R2,4,C65615,0

3=R2,2,C65607,0

4=P2,6,C65752,0

 

 

[AutoSave]

Next=1

Interval=60

Files=10

SaveOnGround=No

AutoSaveEnabled=No

 

[GPSout]

GPSoutEnabled=No

 

[GPSout2]

GPSoutEnabled=No

 

[WideServer]

WideFSenabled=Yes

 

[sounds]

Path=C:\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\Sound\

Device1=Primary Sound Driver

Device2=Speakers (7- Vengeance 2100)

 

[Auto]

1 = LUA DynamicFriction

 

[LuaFiles]

1=AirbusX_Thr1

2=AirbusX_Thr2

3=display vals

4=DynamicFriction

5=Frictions

6=Fuel737

7=gfdDisplay

8=GFpower

9=HidDemo

10=init pos

11=ipcDebug

12=landing

13=liar

14=log lvars

15=MasterClient

16=mrudder

17=MyDisplay

18=Payload737

19=record to csv

20=Rotaries

21=SlaveServer

22=SyncAxis

23=testclnt

24=testsrvr

25=textmenu

26=ThrustSym

27=ThrustSym4

28=TileSix

29=TripleUse

30=VRI_SetBaro

31=VRI_SetMach

32=WP6test

33=WXradar

 

[Profile.Aerosoft Airbus]

1=Airbus A319 easyJet G-EZAX

2=Airbus A320 easyJet G-EZTB

 

[JoystickCalibration]

AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes

ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes

ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes

ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes

SepRevsJetsOnly=No

ApplyHeloTrim=No

UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No

FlapsSetControl=0

FlapDetents=No

ReverserControl=66292

Reverser1Control=66422

Reverser2Control=66425

Reverser3Control=66428

Reverser4Control=66431

MaxThrottleForReverser=256

AileronTrimControl=66731

RudderTrimControl=66732

CowlFlaps1Control=66162

CowlFlaps2Control=66163

CowlFlaps3Control=66164

CowlFlaps4Control=66165

SteeringTillerControl=0

MaxSteerSpeed=60

 

[Axes.Aerosoft Airbus]

RangeRepeatRate=10

0=0X,256,D,22,0,0,0

1=0R,256,F,L1:R,0,0,0

2=0U,256,D,23,0,0,0

3=0V,256,F,L2:R,0,0,0

4=2X,256,D,1,0,0,0

5=2Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

6=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0

7=2P,0,F,66416,0,0,0

 

[JoystickCalibration.Aerosoft Airbus]

AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes

ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes

ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes

ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes

SepRevsJetsOnly=No

ApplyHeloTrim=No

UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No

FlapsSetControl=0

FlapDetents=No

ReverserControl=66292

Reverser1Control=66422

Reverser2Control=66425

Reverser3Control=66428

Reverser4Control=66431

MaxThrottleForReverser=256

AileronTrimControl=66731

RudderTrimControl=66732

CowlFlaps1Control=66162

CowlFlaps2Control=66163

CowlFlaps3Control=66164

CowlFlaps4Control=66165

SteeringTillerControl=0

MaxSteerSpeed=60

Spoilers=-16383,16384/16

Flaps=-16383,16384/16

Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380

Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380

Rudder=-16380,-129,-129,16380

 

[buttons.Aerosoft Airbus]

0=R2,2,C65607,0

1=R2,4,C65615,0

2=R2,0,C65588,0

3=P2,6,C65752,0

4=P0,10,C66079,0

5=P0,11,C66080,0

6=R0,18,C65966,0

7=U0,18,C65967,0

8=R0,20,C65971,0

9=U0,20,C65972,0

 

[Profile.Carenado]

1=Carenado A36 Bonanza Stripes

 

[Axes.Carenado]

RangeRepeatRate=10

0=0X,256,D,5,0,0,0

1=0U,256,D,6,0,0,0

2=0V,256,D,9,0,0,0

3=2X,256,D,1,0,0,0

4=2Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

5=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0

 

[buttons.Carenado]

0=R2,0,C65588,0

1=P2,6,C65752,0

2=R2,2,C65607,0

3=R2,4,C65615,0

 

[JoystickCalibration.Carenado]

AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes

ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes

ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes

ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes

SepRevsJetsOnly=No

ApplyHeloTrim=No

UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No

FlapsSetControl=0

FlapDetents=No

ReverserControl=66292

Reverser1Control=66422

Reverser2Control=66425

Reverser3Control=66428

Reverser4Control=66431

MaxThrottleForReverser=256

AileronTrimControl=66731

RudderTrimControl=66732

CowlFlaps1Control=66162

CowlFlaps2Control=66163

CowlFlaps3Control=66164

CowlFlaps4Control=66165

SteeringTillerControl=0

MaxSteerSpeed=60

Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380

Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380

Rudder=-16380,0,0,16380

Flaps=-16383,16384/16

 

[Profile.C69]

1=Lockheed L049_6

2=Lockheed L049_5

 

[Axes.C69]

RangeRepeatRate=10

0=2X,256,D,1,0,0,0

1=2Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

2=2Z,256,D,4,0,0,0

3=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0

 

[buttons.C69]

0=R2,0,C65588,0

1=R2,2,C65607,0

2=R2,4,C65615,0

3=P2,6,C65752,0

4=P2,3,C66079,0

5=P2,5,C66080,0

 

[MacroFiles]

1=WXRadar

 

[Profile.Sub]

1=Submarine_Ohio_Class

 

[Axes.Sub]

RangeRepeatRate=10

0=2X,256,D,1,0,0,0

1=2Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

2=2Z,256,D,4,0,0,0

3=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0

4=2P,0,F,66416,0,0,0

 

 

Josh

[Pete Dowson]

Hi Pete I have calibrated it and it works fine in the CH throttle manager and it is also smooth and no jumping so its definetly from FSUIPC I think. Here is the Ini file: 

 

There are no throttle calibrations in the INI file whatsoever.

 

Furthermore, you have assignments "direct to FSUIPC calibration" which have no calibrations, they have not even been "SET" in the Calibration tab let alone actually calibrated!

 

Also, FSUIPC has detected no joystick devices at all. The entire [JoyNames] section is missing! So either you've edited the file before posting, or FSUIPC has never even seen a device!

 

Your default  assignments are on some unknown device 2:

 

[Axes]

0=2X,256,D,1,0,0,0 aileron

1=2Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 elevator

2=2Z,256,D,4,0,0,0 throttle (generic, all engines)

3=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0 rudder

 

but the corresponding [JoystickCalibration] section has no set entries whatsoever, so none of those assignments do anything except maybe forward thin gs to FS. Why bother assigning in FSUIPC "to calibration"?

 

The only Profiles are:

 

[Profile.Sub]

1=Submarine_Ohio_Class

 

with similar assignments, plus one for a hat:

 

[Axes.Sub]

0=2X,256,D,1,0,0,0

1=2Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

2=2Z,256,D,4,0,0,0

3=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0

4=2P,0,F,66416,0,0,0

 

but this time not even a Calibration section. And

 

[Profile.C69]

1=Lockheed L049_6

2=Lockheed L049_5

 

[Axes.C69]

0=2X,256,D,1,0,0,0

1=2Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

2=2Z,256,D,4,0,0,0

3=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0

 

Again, identical assignments, no calibrations.

 

[Profile.Carenado]

1=Carenado A36 Bonanza Stripes

 

Ah, this has more:

 

[Axes.Carenado]

0=0X,256,D,5,0,0,0 PropPitch

1=0U,256,D,6,0,0,0 Mixture

2=0V,256,D,9,0,0,0 Throttle 1

3=2X,256,D,1,0,0,0 aileron

4=2Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 elevator

5=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0 rudder

 

But  that just has default calibration (no attempt to actually follow FSUIPC instructions) for the main controls, plus, oddly one for Flaps (not even assigned), but again NOTHING for Throttles:

 

[JoystickCalibration.Carenado]

Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380

Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380

Rudder=-16380,0,0,16380

Flaps=-16383,16384/16

 

The only other Profile:

 

[Profile.Aerosoft Airbus]

1=Airbus A319 easyJet G-EZAX

2=Airbus A320 easyJet G-EZTB

 

has some very fancy axis assignments:

 

[Axes.Aerosoft Airbus]

0=0X,256,D,22,0,0,0 spoilers

1=0R,256,F,L1:R,0,0,0 Lua AirbusX_Thr1

2=0U,256,D,23,0,0,0 flaps

3=0V,256,F,L2:R,0,0,0 Lua AirbusX_Thr2

4=2X,256,D,1,0,0,0 aileron

5=2Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 elevator

6=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0 rudder

7=2P,0,F,66416,0,0,0 pan view

 

and these calibrations

 

[JoystickCalibration.Aerosoft Airbus]

Flaps=-16383,16384/16

Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380

Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380

Rudder=-16380,-129,-129,16380

 

which, again, apart for Rudder (which has a narrower dead centre zone) are default values.

 

You talk about Concorde and "other 4 engined aircraft", but there are none here in Profiles and the only Profiled aircraft is Airbus which appears to be using some Lua plug-ins for throttle control (presumably designed to set thrust modes).

 

Really, you aren't actually using FSUIPC much at all, and nothing for throttles apart from the Lua plug-ins. If you have throttle action at all in your Concord it must be FS which is doing it.

 

Pete

[joshfellows1997]

Thats not right though seeing as I have all my controls going through FSUIPC that was my P3D file so no Concorde in that one, the thing is I have my controllers turned off in the P3D and FSX menu so the only way that control inputs are able to get to my aircraft is by FSUIPC

[Pete Dowson]

Thats not right though seeing as I have all my controls going through FSUIPC that was my P3D file so no Concorde in that one, the thing is I have my controllers turned off in the P3D and FSX menu so the only way that control inputs are able to get to my aircraft is by FSUIPC

 

Well, not according to the INI file you showed here. My detailed analysis above is correct, and in any case, according to that INI file there are no devices attached that can use in any case. If there were any they'd be listed here:

 

[JoyNames]

AutoAssignLetters=No

 

Maybe you aren't showing me the actual INI file you are using, the one in the Modules folder of the installation of P3D , FSX or whatever.

 

Pete

[joshfellows1997]

How do I make it go into the INI file then?

[Pete Dowson]

How do I make it go into the INI file then?

 

The devices attached at the time you start FS are scanned by FSUIPC automatically and their details are added to the INI file then. You need do nothing, just connect devices and run FS.

 

Pete

[joshfellows1997]

Well they are connected when I open up FSX and P3D but you say they dont connect or show in the ini file

 

Josh

[Pete Dowson]

Well they are connected when I open up FSX and P3D but you say they dont connect or show in the ini file

 

Sounds like they don't have IDs asigned to them. FSUIPC relies upon Windows assigning IDs, but some installers don't seem to work well, especially in Windows 8. You could try setting the IDs yourself. There's a utility to help do that called JoyIds

 

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