Enable throttle in FSX controls settings - but calibrate in FSuipc

[copilot767]

Hello..

I have 2 Saiteks quadrents. I fly 2 engines aircraft. I have one lever for throttle 1 and one lever for throttle 2. Them are both enabled in FSX control settings.

Is it possible to still use this setup and just calibrate in fSuipc, without enable the levers in Fsuipc but only calibrate and still have it enabled in FSX controls setting..

If so ...how ..?

Christian from Denmark

[Pete Dowson]

Is it possible to still use this setup and just calibrate in fSuipc, without enable the levers in Fsuipc but only calibrate and still have it enabled in FSX controls setting.

 

Yes. This was always the original way. Assignments in FSUIPC came later, to enable different assignments for different aircraft types.

 

If so ...how ..?

 

Just go to the Joystick calibration tab and do it! (As documented). 

 

Pete

[copilot767]

Do you have a link? ☺

[copilot767]

Found it☺and calibrated it☺

[copilot767]

I syncroized my two levers...works, end and went to the desktop... starts Fsx again, and still syncroized.. But if I restart my computer, and go to Fsx again- I have to syncroize again with Sync pos???

[Pete Dowson]

I syncroized my two levers...works, end and went to the desktop... starts Fsx again, and still syncroized.. But if I restart my computer, and go to Fsx again- I have to syncroize again with Sync pos???

 

Sorry, what do you mean by "I syncroized my two levers"? 

 

Nothing in FSUIPC changes, but the hotkey for throttle synch is only active whilst it is active, not forever. If you mean you set a number of synch points in the calibration, then these are all recorded in the INI file and never lost.

 

Pete

[copilot767]

I press Sync pos, but after restart my computer - it seems to have forgot the calculations- but not happen if only quit

Fsx to desktop and return again..

[Pete Dowson]

I press Sync pos, but after restart my computer - it seems to have forgot the calculations- but not happen if only quit

Fsx to desktop and return again..

 

Ah, you mean the synch positions in Calibration, where you can have many calibration points to make throttles match better?

 

When you press OK to exit the options dialogue, all those synch positions are recorded in the [JoystickCalibration] section of the FSUIPC4.INI file. They cannot get lost, and are read during initialisation, when entering the Calibration dialogue again, and when changing aircraft -- the last matters if they are specific to one aircraft or one profile.

 

If you think they are not being restored on restarting FSX, then maybe you made the synch positions when in a Profile or Aircraft Specific setting which is different from the one you then used on reloading?

 

Certainly there is no difference to FSUIPC (or FSX) whether FSX is restarted or the computer is restarted. There's no way it can detect any difference in any case.

 

If you want me to look at the INI and tell you what you've done, please just paste its contents into a message here. You'll find it in the FS Modules folder.

 

Pete

[copilot767]

I only fly the Airbus from Aerosoft -

 

Here is my settings :

 

[General]
UpdatedByVersion=4939i
History=OMZOQJOEDWC1L90NDD6RW
MouseWheelMove=No
MouseWheelTrim=No
MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1
JoystickTimeout=20
PollGFTQ6=Yes
BlankDisplays=No
FixControlAccel=No
FixMachSpeedBug=No
DeleteVehiclesForAES=Yes
AutoScanDevices=Yes
VisibilityOptions=No
OneCloudLayer=No
CloudTurbulence=No
CloudIcing=No
GenerateCirrus=No
SuppressCloudTurbulence=No
MaxIce=-4
MinIce=-4
UpperWindGusts=No
SuppressWindTurbulence=No
SuppressWindVariance=No
WindTurbulence=No
TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0
TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40
SuppressAllGusts=No
MaxSurfaceWind=0
WindLimitLevel=200
WindDiscardLevel=400
WindAjustAltitude=No
WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000
SmoothBySimTime=No
WindSmoothing=No
WindSmoothness=2
WindSmoothAirborneOnly=No
PressureSmoothness=0
TemperatureSmoothness=0
DisconnTrimForAP=No
ZeroElevForAPAlt=No
ThrottleSyncAll=No
WhiteMessages=Yes
ShowPMcontrols=No
SpoilerIncrement=512
MagicBattery=No
RudderSpikeRemoval=No
ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No
AileronSpikeRemoval=No
ReversedElevatorTrim=No
ClockSync=No
ClockSyncMins=5
ClearWeatherDynamics=No
OwnWeatherChanges=No
TimeForSelect=4
LoadFlightMenu=No
LoadPlanMenu=No
PauseAfterCrash=No
BrakeReleaseThreshold=75
SaveDataWithFlights=No
ZapSound=firework
ShortAircraftNameOk=No
UseProfiles=Yes
EnableMouseLook=No
AxesWrongRange=No
TCASid=Flight
TCASrange=40
AxisCalibration=No
DirectAxesToCalibs=No
ShowMultilineWindow=Yes
SuppressSingleline=No
SuppressMultilineFS=No
AxisIntercepts=No
DontResetAxes=No
InitDelay=0
GetNearestAirports=Yes
WeatherReadFactor=2
WeatherRewriteSeconds=1
CustomWeatherModify=No
SimConnectStallTime=1
LuaRerunDelay=66
Console=No
AdvDisplayHotKey=88,8
InitDelayDevicesToo=No
OOMcheck=Yes
UseMidMouseBtn=Yes
UseSystemTime=No
NewInterceptTextMenu=No
DelayedMouseLookZoom=No
ThrottleSyncToggle=88,8
FSVersionUsed="Microsoft Flight Simulator X",10.0.61637.0
SimConnectUsed=10.0.61259.0

[JoyNames]
AutoAssignLetters=No
2=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant
2.GUID={98A43320-86A1-11E1-8003-444553540000}
1=CH PRO PEDALS USB
1.GUID={98A43320-86A1-11E1-8002-444553540000}
0=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant
0.GUID={8016F0F0-0140-11E5-8001-444553540000}
3=XBOX 360 For Windows (Controller)
3.GUID={2EB31A20-AE4A-11E4-8001-444553540000}
4=T.16000M
4.GUID={529E3410-B2D7-11E4-8001-444553540000}

[buttons]
ButtonRepeat=20,10
1=R2,8,C65602,0
2=U2,8,C65604,0
3=P2,2,Cx090078E3,x64
4=P0,5,Cx050078E3,x64
PollInterval=25

[AutoSave]
Next=1
Interval=60
Files=10
SaveOnGround=No
AutoSaveEnabled=No

[GPSout]
GPSoutEnabled=No
Port=COM1
Speed=4800
Interval=2000
PosTo6Decimal=No
SimModeIndicator=No
Sentences=

[GPSout2]
GPSoutEnabled=No
Port=<none set>
Speed=4800
Interval=2000
PosTo6Decimal=No
SimModeIndicator=No
Sentences=

[WideServer]
WideFSenabled=Yes

[sounds]
Path=C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Sound\
Device1=Primary Sound Driver
Device2=Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Device3=Realtek Digital Output(Optical) (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Device4=Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)

[Window.Radar Contact]
Docked=264, 2829, 3541, 1578

[Axes]
RangeRepeatRate=10
PollInterval=10
0=0Z,256,D,23,0,0,0
1=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0
2=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0
3=1Z,256,D,3,0,0,0
4=2X,256,D,22,0,0,0
5=4Z,1,D,23,0,0,0

[JoystickCalibration]
AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes
ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes
ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes
ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes
SepRevsJetsOnly=No
ApplyHeloTrim=No
UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No
FlapsSetControl=0
FlapDetents=No
ReverserControl=66292
Reverser1Control=66422
Reverser2Control=66425
Reverser3Control=66428
Reverser4Control=66431
MaxThrottleForReverser=256
AileronTrimControl=66731
RudderTrimControl=66732
CowlFlaps1Control=66162
CowlFlaps2Control=66163
CowlFlaps3Control=66164
CowlFlaps4Control=66165
SteeringTillerControl=0
MaxSteerSpeed=60
Rudder=-13523,2176,2176,13952
LeftBrake=-9984,16383/16
RightBrake=-13696,16253/16
Flaps=-16256,9882/16
FlapStarts=-16384,-13952,14953
FlapEnds=-16383,-11520,16384
Spoilers=-16256,11442/16

[Profile.AXE]
1=Airbus A321 Finnair OH-LZF
2=Airbus A320 SAS Scandinavian Airlines SE-RJE
3=Airbus A321 NEO Thomas Cook Scandinavia NC

[Axes]
[Monitor]
Monitor0=0,024C,4,0
Display=4

[MacroFiles]
1=iFly737
2=leveld767

[LuaFiles]
1=ipcReady
2=linda

[VRInsight]
1=com3
2=com7

[Window.LUA display]
Docked=7347, 2839, 3541, 2449

[Programs]
RunIf1=C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\linda.exe

[Axes.AXE]
RangeRepeatRate=10
0=0Z,256,D,23,0,0,0
1=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0
2=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0
3=1Z,256,D,3,0,0,0
4=2X,256,D,22,0,0,0
5=4Z,1,D,23,0,0,0

[Pete Dowson]

I only fly the Airbus from Aerosoft -

 

Here is my settings :

 

Er, you have 3 A321's assigned to the Profile "AXE"  with only these assignments:

 

0=0Z,256,D,23,0,0,0 =Flaps

1=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0   =LeftBrake

2=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0   =RightBrake

3=1Z,256,D,3,0,0,0   =Rudder

4=2X,256,D,22,0,0,0 =Spoilers

5=4Z,1,D,23,0,0,0      =Flaps again!

 

No assignment to Throttles at all!

 

In fact your default assignments, for other aircraft to assigned to "AXE" are identical (there are no other Profile specific settings, so effectively you aren't making use of Profiles at all)

 

So, with no throttles assigned, there can be no calibration and therefore no Sync Pos!

 

You have no specific calibration for the AXE profile, so the default calibrations will prevail. Those are:

 

Rudder=-13523,2176,2176,13952

LeftBrake=-9984,16383/16

RightBrake=-13696,16253/16

Flaps=-16256,9882/16

FlapStarts=-16384,-13952,14953

FlapEnds=-16383,-11520,16384

Spoilers=-16256,11442/16

 

agreeing with the assignments.

 

Looks like you need to find a pair of throttle levers and actually assign them so you can calibrate. Only when it is all working and calibrated should you venture into doing more advanced things like "sync pos"!!

 

BTW doesn't the Aerosoft Airbus use throttle "gates" or "thrust modes" rather than a continuously adjustable throttle?

 

Pete

[copilot767]

If I assign throttles to Fsuipc, when using Aerosoft Airbus, throttles doesnt move- had so many problems with assigning throttles to that bus, so just using throttles to Fsx controls settings..maybe There Are a solution for This?

[Pete Dowson]

If I assign throttles to Fsuipc, when using Aerosoft Airbus, throttles doesnt move- had so many problems with assigning throttles to that bus, so just using throttles to Fsx controls settings..maybe There Are a solution for This?

If yo do ANY assigning in VS, you should not do ANY in FSUIPC, and vice versa. You are bound to get conflicts! If you assign in FSUIPC you should disable controllers in VS.

You can assign to the same VS controls in FSUIPC as those in VS --they're the ones in the VS controls list. Whether that gets around Aerosoft Airbus problems I 've no idea. I don't know much about Airbus but as I said earlier, I thought they had thrust modes not analogue throttles.

You can try calibrating even with FS assignment, but again that might mess up Airbus.

But one thing, going back to your original complaint, there's no way you can calibrate Synch Positions if you are not even calibrating. I don't really understand why you came here with such a question, in fact.

Pete

[copilot767]

I have now assigned my two throttle levers in FSUIPC.. My throttles working.

Then I move to 3 of 11 and press set. Settings min and Max...Then my throttle not moving in my cockpit... Goeing back to Fsuipc 3 of 11 press reset.. Go to my cockpit - and throttle 1 Moves again...

Why Will it not let be calibrate..thats why I am wondering? I have calibrated spoilers well in Fsuipc - but throttles wont??? Even I Think I do it correct

[Pete Dowson]

I have now assigned my two throttle levers in FSUIPC.. My throttles working.

Then I move to 3 of 11 and press set. Settings min and Max...Then my throttle not moving in my cockpit... Goeing back to Fsuipc 3 of 11 press reset.. Go to my cockpit - and throttle 1 Moves again...

Why Will it not let be calibrate..thats why I am wondering? I have calibrated spoilers well in Fsuipc - but throttles wont??? Even I Think I do it correct

 

Test with a default aircraft.

 

It sounds like that specific aircraft implementation intercepts the Throttles at a higher lever, same as FSUIPC. When you calibrate FSUIPC has to stop those going direct to FS (and to your aircraft), do the calibration, then feed them back to FS. They will arrive ast a different level.

 

It might also be that it doesn't like the type of throttle controls with a reverse zone, so try again with "no reverse zone" checked.

 

If that doesn't work then there's probably no way you can calibrate for that aircraft. As I said, Airbuses are rasther different in any case.

 

Pete

[copilot767]

I just continue without calibrating, it works okay..but dont Think its possible with This bus..

Many thanks for your great support ☺

[grosati]

I have the same problem with my ifly 737. If I set joystick axes and calibrate it, when I reload the plane nothing works with throttle command of my saitek