The 'profile specific' tickbox and other random events.

[ErichB]

Hello Pete

Have been using FSUIPC successfully for many years, but have recently come up against an issue using P3DV4 and FSUIPC.  I have disabled all controllers within P3D itself and only use FSUIPC for axis/button assignment and calibration.  

I only fly PMDG aircraft (737/777/747) and have created a profile for each.

So my issue lately is - whether using either the 777/737 or 747, the throttle levers randomly go into reverse (while on the ground during manual operation) and/or my autothrottle keeps disconnecting.  Not all at the same time but both events randomly happen.

Also, the FSUIPC aircraft profile remembers the profile for the axis settings, but when I click on the 'Buttons/Switches' tab I keep having to re-select the 'profile specific' tickbox and click OK. When I click OK and come out of the FSUIPC interface and go back into it, the profile specific tickbox is again deselected.

So random events occurring - I though it may be related to other assignments which I'm not aware of - but these were usually only caused by assignments in the controller settings within P3D which is why I have disabled them in the sim.

Offhand I can't remember which version of FSUIPC I'm using but it is the new V4 version.  I havent updated FSUIPC for about three weeks,

Regards

erich

 

 

 

[Pete Dowson]

2 minutes ago, ErichB said:

So my issue lately is - whether using either the 777/737 or 747, the throttle levers randomly go into reverse (while on the ground during manual operation) and/or my autothrottle keeps disconnecting.  Not all at the same time but both events randomly happen.

Sounds very much like multiple assignment.  If you assign in FSUIPC make sure you have controllers disabled in P3D. not simply de-assigned, but disabled.

3 minutes ago, ErichB said:

Also, the FSUIPC aircraft profile remembers the profile for the axis settings, but when I click on the 'Buttons/Switches' tab I keep having to re-select the 'profile specific' tickbox and click OK. When I click OK and come out of the FSUIPC interface and go back into it, the profile specific tickbox is again deselected.

This is normal. Youcan have generic button assignments as well as profile specific ones. It has ALWAYS been this way. The idea is to have general things, like Gear, assigned generically/globally, and only assign specific things for specific profiles.

It also applies to key presses.

It would have been nice to do this for axis assignments and calibrations, but unlike buttons and keys, axes are always active so it could not be like that for those.

6 minutes ago, ErichB said:

 I havent updated FSUIPC for about three weeks,

The version number of FSUIPC is so easy to see I don't understand why folks rarely tell methis essential information without me asking.

And before posting here you should ALWAYS check the Download Links subforum (updated modules folder) for the latest version and interim updates.

Pete

 

[ErichB]

2 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said:

If you assign in FSUIPC make sure you have controllers disabled in P3D. not simply de-assigned, but disabled.

This is normal. Youcan have generic button assignments as well as profile specific ones. It has ALWAYS been this way. The idea is to have general things, like Gear, assigned generically/globally, and only assign specific things for specific profiles.

It also applies to key presses.

It would have been nice to do this for axis assignments and calibrations, but unlike buttons and keys, axes are always active so it could not be like that for those.

The version number of FSUIPC is so easy to see I don't understand why folks rarely tell methis essential information without me asking.

And before posting here you should ALWAYS check the Download Links subforum (updated modules folder) for the latest version and interim updates.

Pete

 

If you assign in FSUIPC make sure you have controllers disabled in P3D. not simply de-assigned, but disabled.

Yup, all controllers are disabled, not just an axis deleted

Thanks for your input, I'll have a more detailed look at it this evening and post back with details if I can't resolve.

 

thanks

erich

 

 

[Pete Dowson]

2 hours ago, ErichB said:

all controllers are disabled, not just an axis deleted

Test with a default aircraft. If that's okay, then it is likely that the PMDG doesn't like the way throttles are being controlled.

Mostly PMDG aircraft coding takes the throttle input at a higher level, the same as FSUIPC does. But if you assign in FSUIPC "direct to FSUIPC calibration" then this bypasses the PMDG throttle input, and its interception will use a different value, causing a conflict much like double assignment.

Even if you assign to the FS controls "Axis throttleX set" and then calibrate, the same problem occurs. Generally the only safe way to do it with those aircraft is to assign to those "Axis" controls and NOT calibrate in FSUIPC at all.

Pete

 

 

[Ahmed Al-Dabbass]

12 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said:

Test with a default aircraft. If that's okay, then it is likely that the PMDG doesn't like the way throttles are being controlled.

Mostly PMDG aircraft coding takes the throttle input at a higher level, the same as FSUIPC does. But if you assign in FSUIPC "direct to FSUIPC calibration" then this bypasses the PMDG throttle input, and its interception will use a different value, causing a conflict much like double assignment.

Even if you assign to the FS controls "Axis throttleX set" and then calibrate, the same problem occurs. Generally the only safe way to do it with those aircraft is to assign to those "Axis" controls and NOT calibrate in FSUIPC at all.

Pete

 

 

Hey Mr Dowson,

I dont know how this Forum works. I clicked on ur name and sent u a private message. Would be great if u could help me out with my problem :)

[Pete Dowson]

5 hours ago, Ahmed Al-Dabbass said:

I dont know how this Forum works. I clicked on ur name and sent u a private message. Would be great if u could help me out with my problem :)

Is it a private problem? I don't support via Private Messages and very rarely even check if there are any.

Why are you adding to this particular thread, and even quoting my reply?  Is your problem related? 

If not please post a thread of your own with a relevant subject title.

Pete