garymccl Posted June 19, 2018 Report Posted June 19, 2018 Hi. I'm a new user for this product - it was recommended to me. The problem is there is a recommendation to disable the controllers in the prepar3d settings when fsuipc5 is installed. When I do that, my joystick completely stops working, and I can't find any documentation for fsuipc5 product at all. If I'm perfectly honest, I'm not sure what the product does, but I bought it because I was having trouble with an aircraft. Why does nothing work when I uncheck that box, and I have fsuipc5 installed? If really appreciate some help. Thanks, Gaz
garymccl Posted June 19, 2018 Author Report Posted June 19, 2018 Sorry for not including the contents of the log files. The content of FSUIPC5.log is: ************************************************************************************************************* ********* FSUIPC5, Version 5.131 (17th May 2018) by Pete Dowson ********* Running inside Prepar3D v4 Module base=7FFCC0F90000 Windows 10 Home 64 Bit reported as Build 17134, Release ID: 1803 (OS 10.0) Prepar3D.exe version = 4.2.21.24048 Reading options from "D:\Prepar3D v4\Modules\FSUIPC5.ini" Checking the Registrations now ... User Name="Gary McCluskey" User Addr="garymccluskey1975@gmail.com" FSUIPC5 Key is provided WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired 31 System time = 19/06/2018 20:16:12 31 FLT path = "C:\Users\Gary\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Files\" 31 Using PDK events 31 Using DialogMode 63 FS path = "D:\Prepar3D v4\" 156 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan ----------------------- 172 Product= Logitech Extreme 3D 172 Manufacturer= Logitech 172 Vendor=046D, Product=C215 (Version 2.4) 203 GUIDs returned for product: VID_046D&PID_C215: 203 GUID= {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000} 203 Details: Btns=12, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R255,U0,V0,X1023,Y1023,Z255 203 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 203 Device acquired for use: 203 Joystick ID = 0 (Registry okay) 203 0=Logitech Extreme 3D 203 0.GUID={AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000} 203 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 234 LogOptions=00000000 00000001 234 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 234 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 234 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 32828 Running in "Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v4", Version: 4.2.21.24048 (SimConnect: 4.2.0.0) 32828 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 32828 FSUIPC Menu entry added 32828 ... Using Prepar3D with Academic License 32859 C:\Users\Gary\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Files\ALABEO - DA42 DHM 1.fxml 32859 D:\Prepar3D v4\SimObjects\Airplanes\Alabeo DA42_Twin_Star\DA42.air 78688 Loading Complete ... 79563 Aircraft loaded: running normally now ... 79578 User Aircraft ID 2 supplied, now being used 80219 System time = 19/06/2018 20:17:32, Simulator time = 11:56:46 (10:56Z) 80219 Aircraft="Alabeo DA42 Twin Star 1" 81219 -------------------- Starting everything now ---------------------- 82344 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 171922 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 92 secs = 41.6 fps 171922 Max AI traffic was 16 aircraft (Deleted 0) 442156 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan ----------------------- 442172 Product= Logitech Extreme 3D 442172 Manufacturer= Logitech 442172 Vendor=046D, Product=C215 (Version 2.4) 442188 GUIDs returned for product: VID_046D&PID_C215: 442188 GUID= {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000} 442188 Details: Btns=12, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R255,U0,V0,X1023,Y1023,Z255 442188 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 442188 Device acquired for use: 442188 Joystick ID = 0 (Registry okay) 442188 0=Logitech Extreme 3D 442188 0.GUID={AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000} 442188 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 572453 **** Restarting traffic scanning due to non-reception **** 589734 **** Restarting traffic scanning due to non-reception **** 646516 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 27 secs = 66.6 fps 646516 Max AI traffic was 18 aircraft (Deleted 0) 701656 **** Restarting traffic scanning due to non-reception **** 771016 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 70 secs = 65.1 fps 771016 Max AI traffic was 20 aircraft (Deleted 0) 856313 **** Restarting traffic scanning due to non-reception **** 1061891 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 198 secs = 57.7 fps 1061891 Max AI traffic was 24 aircraft (Deleted 0) 1074813 **** Restarting traffic scanning due to non-reception **** 7836125 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 6762 secs = 65.3 fps 7836125 Max AI traffic was 39 aircraft (Deleted 0) 11063000 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 3058 secs = 22.4 fps 11063000 Max AI traffic was 39 aircraft (Deleted 0) 11064719 === Closing session: waiting for DLLStop to be called ... 11076656 === DLLStop called ... 11076656 === Closing external processes we started ... 11077656 === About to kill any Lua plug-ins still running ... 11077797 === Closing global Lua thread 11078813 === About to kill my timers ... 11079016 === Restoring window procs ... 11079016 === Unloading libraries ... 11079016 === stopping other threads ... 11079016 === ... Button scanning ... 11079109 === ... Axis scanning ... 11079219 === Releasing joystick devices ... 11079219 === Freeing macro memory 11079219 === Removing any offset overrides 11079219 === Clearing any displays left 11079219 === NOTE: not calling SimConnect_Close ... 11079219 === AI slots deleted! 11079219 === Freeing button memory ... 11079219 === Closing my Windows ... 11079219 === Freeing FS libraries ... 11080219 === Closing devices ... 11080219 === Closing the Log ... Bye Bye! ... 11080219 System time = 19/06/2018 23:20:52, Simulator time = 12:42:19 (11:42Z) 11080219 *** FSUIPC log file being closed Minimum frame rate was 17.3 fps, Maximum was 86.8 fps Average frame rate for running time of 10234 secs = 52.2 fps Maximum AI traffic for session was 39 aircraft Memory managed: 4827 Allocs, 4826 Freed ********* FSUIPC Log file closed *********** *************************************************************************************************************The content of FSUIPC5.Joyscan.csv is as follows (since the joystick is not working when I rely on FSUIPC, this may be the most important: Good?, flags, VID, PID, Name, INIid, REGid, RegEntry, INIguid, REGguid, HIDguid, ValsOK?, ReadsOk? ,,, HIDscanning completed N, x00, x046D, xC215, , -1, -1, 0, {NULL}, {NULL}, {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}, Y, N ,,, REGscanning completed N, x00, x046D, xC215, Logitech Extreme 3D, -1, 0, 0, {NULL}, {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}, {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}, Y, Y ,,, User settings imported N, x00, x046D, xC215, Logitech Extreme 3D, 0, 0, 0, {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}, {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}, {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}, Y, Y ,,, Values matched and decided Y, x1E, x046D, xC215, Logitech Extreme 3D, 0, 0, 0, {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}, {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}, {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}, Y, Y *************************************************************************************************************The content of the Prepar3d v4\DLL.xml file is as follows, even though FSUIPC appears in the Addons menu in P3D: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="WINDOWS-1252"?> -<SimBase.Document version="1,0" Type="Launch"> <Descr>Launch</Descr> <Filename>dll.xml</Filename> <Disabled>False</Disabled> <Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad> -<Launch.Addon> <Name>Carenavigraph</Name> <Disabled>False</Disabled> <Path>.\Carenavigraph.dll</Path> </Launch.Addon> -<Launch.Addon> <Name>CMeteoXml</Name> <Disabled>False</Disabled> <Path>.\CMeteoXml.dll</Path> </Launch.Addon> -<Launch.Addon> <Name>FSUIPC 5</Name> <Disabled>False</Disabled> <Path>D:\Prepar3D v4\Modules\FSUIPC5.dll</Path> </Launch.Addon> </SimBase.Document> ************************************************************************************************************* Finally, the Install log is here: Installer for FSUIPC5.DLL version 5.131 Looking in registry for Prepar3D v4 install path: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4 Parameter"AppPath" ... >>> OK! FOUND Prepar3D v4! <<< ... AppPath=D:\Prepar3D v4\ =========================================================== INSTALLATION FOR Prepar3D v4: AppPath="D:\Prepar3D v4\" Checking version of the Prepar3D v4 EXE: ... Version 4.2.21.24048 (Need at least 4.1.0.0) Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC5 installed as: D:\Prepar3D v4\Modules\FSUIPC5.DLL ... Version 5.131 found. D:\Prepar3D v4\Modules folder already exists. Okay -- installed FSUIPC5 into "D:\Prepar3D v4\Modules\FSUIPC5.DLL" Looking for the current user's Application Data path: ... found as "C:\Users\Gary\AppData\Roaming" Now finding \Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Prepar3D.CFG for all users, including this one Looking in "C:\Users\All Users\AppData\Roaming" ... No Prepar3D.CFG there Looking in "C:\Users\Default\AppData\Roaming" ... No Prepar3D.CFG there Looking in "C:\Users\Default User\AppData\Roaming" ... No Prepar3D.CFG there Looking in "C:\Users\Gary\AppData\Roaming" Found Prepar3D.CFG in "C:\Users\Gary\AppData\Roaming\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Prepar3D.CFG" Now checking DLL.XML ... ... There is a previous DLL.XML, checking for FSUIPC5 section. ... FSUIPC5 section already exists but will be replaced. ... FSUIPC5 section of DLL.XML written okay Now checking for a SimConnect.XML file ... ... No SimConnect.XML file found. This is okay. Looking in "C:\Users\Public\AppData\Roaming" ... No Prepar3D.CFG there "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder already exists. Now installing additional files into the "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder: Installed "FSUIPC5 User Guide.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC5 for Advanced Users.pdf" okay Installed "The 2016 List of FSX and P3D Controls.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay Installed "LuaFileSystem.pdf" okay Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay Installed "FSUIPC4 Offsets Status.pdf" okay Installed "Profiles in Separate Files.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC5 History.pdf" okay Installed "Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf" okay Installed "ASN WX Radar facilities in FSUIPC4.pdf" okay Installed "Offset Mapping for PMDG 737NGX.pdf" okay Installed "Offset Mapping for PMDG 777X.pdf" okay Installed "Offset Mapping for PMDG 747QOTSII.pdf" okay =========================================================== All installer tasks completed. Registration dialog exit: selected FSUIPC REGISTER Providing FSUIPC registration dialogue ... Registration for FSUIPC5 was successful! (result code 00) *************** End of Install Log ***************
Pete Dowson Posted June 19, 2018 Report Posted June 19, 2018 3 hours ago, garymccl said: I'm a new user for this product - it was recommended to me. The problem is there is a recommendation to disable the controllers in the prepar3d settings when fsuipc5 is installed No. not necessary. That's ONLY if you intend to assign joysticks and buttons in FSUIPC instead of P3D. You can't do it in both, there will be conflicts! 3 hours ago, garymccl said: When I do that, my joystick completely stops working, and I can't find any documentation for fsuipc5 product at all. Where did you get FSUIPC5 from? If you downloaded the official ZIP then it contains an Installation document which tells you clearly where everything is, especially documentation - i.e. in the FSUIPC Documents folder, in the Sim's Modules folder. 3 hours ago, garymccl said: If I'm perfectly honest, I'm not sure what the product does, but I bought it Ouch! Best never to buy anything without knowing why! Quite honestly, if you don't know what you want to use it for it is a waste of your good money! 3 hours ago, garymccl said: because I was having trouble with an aircraft. I don't knwo why do you thought FSUIPC would help. Did you ask the suppot for that aircraft for help first? 3 hours ago, garymccl said: Why does nothing work when I uncheck that box, and I have fsuipc5 installed? Sorry, i've no idea what this is about. If you mean you disabled controllers, then unless you've already assigned your controls in FSUIPC then of course they are now disabled! Please just don't do it until you know what you are doing. There is actually rarely any need at all to assign controls in FSUIPC. It is for folks who want different assignments for different aircraft types. Is that you? Good luck, and hope yuou find the real answers to you aircraft problems. Maybe describing those here, or better, in the relevant AVSIM Forum, might elicit specific help for it? Pete
Pete Dowson Posted June 19, 2018 Report Posted June 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, garymccl said: Sorry for not including the contents of the log files. Thanks for all those. But i don't know what your problem is, so they are really not of use at present. Pete
garymccl Posted June 19, 2018 Author Report Posted June 19, 2018 Thanks for getting back to me, Pete. The reason I bought this product is that I'm having trouble with the Alabeo DA42 aircraft. While flying other aircraft is fine, I feel like I'm in a roller coast with that, despite the fact that the weather is set to just Fair. I posted on another forum for some help, and one guy said: "I use FSUIPC to "curve" my control responses - if you are not using FSUIPC, I cannot recommend it highly enough". So I guess you have a fan there! 😉 Again, thanks for getting back to me, Gaz
Pete Dowson Posted June 20, 2018 Report Posted June 20, 2018 7 hours ago, garymccl said: I use FSUIPC to "curve" my control responses - if you are not using FSUIPC, I cannot recommend it highly enough". Ok. You can do that all through the Calibration of the controls Ailerons and Elevators. Don’t disable controllers in the Sim, don’t assign in FSUIPC, for now at least. Read the chapter in the User Guide on Calibration, and follow the numbered steps there. Then make response curve adjustments in the Slopes option there until you get a good result. Maybe your adviser can actually tell you the slope values he uses? Pete
garymccl Posted June 20, 2018 Author Report Posted June 20, 2018 Brilliant, I really appreciate you getting back to me. Gaz
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