Saitek throttle configurations/condition levers

[northsky]

Hello,

i hope someone can answer my question, i would appreciate it.

two questions:

I have two saitek throttle quadrants and i want to configure the condition levers of my majestic dash8q400 and one lever must turn on and off the parking brake.

I have read the documentations but i came to no solution.

Condition levers:

configuration with axis assignment for pitch 1 and 2 works not correctly. As i move the lever 1 it shows -16384 to 16384 that's probably normal, but i need a range from feather and start - idle - 850 - 900-1020. Fsuipc works there not quiet correctly, cause as i move the lever the changed feather to 1020 works only in the last third of the total range. So at -16384 there has to be start and feather and not when i push the lever as i remember to 14000, then the condition levers in the plane start to move from feather to 1020.  I hope i have written it understandable.

There is a solution in the majestic forum, but only for buttons: http://majesticsoftware.com/forums/discussion/82/condition-levers-with-fsuipc

second problem:

can i assign one lever of the throttle quardat to set the parking brake off and on?

Thanks in advance

Mark

[Pete Dowson]

6 hours ago, northsky said:

Condition levers:

configuration with axis assignment for pitch 1 and 2 works not correctly. As i move the lever 1 it shows -16384 to 16384 that's probably normal, but i need a range from feather and start - idle - 850 - 900-1020. Fsuipc works there not quiet correctly, cause as i move the lever the changed feather to 1020 works only in the last third of the total range. So at -16384 there has to be start and feather and not when i push the lever as i remember to 14000, then the condition levers in the plane start to move from feather to 1020.  I hope i have written it understandable.

I don't fully understand, but it seems you are saing that your aircraft cannot use a lever with the normal full range of values from -16384 to + 16384. Can that be correct? What happens, do the values actually jumpt from -16385 to 1020 when the lever is in the last third of the movement?  What values are "start", "idle" and "feather"?

Is this peculiarity specific to that aircraft? Can you check on a default aircraft so that we can tell whether it is something to do with the throttle unit and FSUIPC, or actually a problem of the Majectic?

6 hours ago, northsky said:

There is a solution in the majestic forum, but only for buttons

Perhaps that's how that aircraft is designed, with specific indents on the condition leversl really selected specifically rather than by a continuous axis? Let's see. Your link points to this:

[Buttons.Dash8]
0=P1,30,Cx3200088E,x3E800FA0 -{offset sword increment, offset 088E (Incr=4000, Limit=16000)}-
1=P1,17,Cx4200088E,x00000FA0 -{offset sword decrement, offset 088E (Decr=4000, Limit=0)}-
2=P1,31,Cx32000926,x3E800FA0 -{offset sword increment, offset 0926 (Incr=4000, Limit=16000)}-
3=P1,18,Cx42000926,x00000FA0 -{offset sword decrement, offset 0926 (Decr=4000, Limit=0)}-

Now 088E and 0926 are Engine 1 and 2 Prop Lever inputs, with values -4096 to +16384 allowed. I think -4096 to -1 represent reverse pitch settings. Proper FSUIPC calibration of the levers with Reverse Range allowed will calibrate your -16384 to +16384 to that range. So that's step one.

THe above assignments actually make the values starting from, assumably 0, jump to 4000, 8000, 12000, and 16000. Those 4 values don't seem to agree with yours x, y, z, 850, 900, 1020. (x y z being the three unknowns for feather, start and idle). Uoir values don't even get to 4000 let alone the others which are apparently needed. Did you actually do the other change suggested in that link, i.e.

and the entry in themjc84.ini file: 
CL1_FUELOFF =0
CL1_START =12000
CL1_850 =24000
CL1_900 =48000
CL1_1020 =64000 
CL2_FUELOFF =0
CL2_START =12000
CL2_850 =24000
CL2_900 =48000
CL2_1020 =64000

Seems to me that it is crucial, as it realtes your values to some others which at least have even spacing, though of 12000 instead of 4000. maybe the sim's values are multiplied by three in the aircraft code before use?

You CAN program a lever to be like a series of buttons at intervals along its movement. You do this in the Axis assignments tab, on the right-hand side. There yo can calibrate up to 10 different parts of the lever movement, assigning whatever you wish to each -- and something different going to to going down. That facility would easily let you replicate those button assignments above. See the section about this in the Axis assignments chapter of the User Guide.

6 hours ago, northsky said:

can i assign one lever of the throttle quardat to set the parking brake off and on?

Yes, of course. it's actually another application of the facility just mentioned, the right-hand side of the axis assignments tab.  Find the exaple for "gear up" and "gear down" in the Chapter of the User Guide about Axis assignment. It's on about the 5th page (actually page 36 in the FSUIPC5 User Guide).

Pete

 

[northsky]

Hello Pete,

i solved the problem with the settings of the condition levers from my Dash8Q400.

Thank you for your help.