Flaps calibration

[sebpil]

Hi!

Have been using the FSUIPC for years now, but after a change of potentiometer for the flaps in my PMDG 737 full size flight simulator the flaps do not work any more at all.
What happens is when I go to claibrate axis, that works fine- I set the min and max value using the flaps handle. And then the problem starts.

When I set flaps 1, no movement, when I set flaps 2, the flaps goes to 1, when I set flaps 5 with my handle it goes to 2 and so on. And the maximum flaps I get is 30 degrees when my handle is set to full flaps =40 in a Boeing 737-800.

Now I have spent hours trying to fix this but nothing work.

I cannot find anything either for manual settings of different handle positions to give the simulator the flaps position for that specific location.
All I see in FSUIPC is a Dt button but no explanation and no manual is to be found for the FSUIPS. What does Dt mean and how do I use that button?

How do I calibrate my flaps handle so it will go back to function again as it has for years, but not now because some strange programming problem that no answers seems to be able to find anywhere? 

[Pete Dowson]

2 minutes ago, sebpil said:

When I set flaps 1, no movement, when I set flaps 2, the flaps goes to 1, when I set flaps 5 with my handle it goes to 2 and so on. And the maximum flaps I get is 30 degrees when my handle is set to full flaps =40 in a Boeing 737-800.

Now I have spent hours trying to fix this but nothing work.

You need to do a proper calibration. For flaps you can calibrate for each flap position in turn.

3 minutes ago, sebpil said:

I cannot find anything either for manual settings of different handle positions to give the simulator the flaps position for that specific location.
All I see in FSUIPC is a Dt button but no explanation and no manual is to be found for the FSUIPS. What does Dt mean and how do I use that button?

The documentation for FSUIPC is installed for you when you installed FSUIPC. Didn't you bother reading the Installation guide provided?

You don't say which version of FSUIPC (nor sim) you are using, but if you have been using the same version for years surely you are using FSUIPC4 or at best FSUIPC5? Both are installed in your FSX/P3D Modules folder, and the documentation is in the (obscurely named?) FSUIPC Documents folder.

Proper flaps detente (Dt) calibration is fully described in the User Manual.

If you actually mean a more recent purchase -- FSUIPC6 or FSUIPC7, then you will find the FSUIPC documentation in your main Documents folder within the one called "FSUIPC6" or "FSUIPC7".

The Installation document accompanying the install foile for FSUIPC does tell you these things!

10 minutes ago, sebpil said:

How do I calibrate my flaps handle so it will go back to function again as it has for years, but not now because some strange programming problem that no answers seems to be able to find anywhere? 

You evidently didn't look far, nor read what is provided in the files you obtain. Obviously the reason you need to re-calibrate is your change in potentiometer. You imply you managed to calibrate correctly before then, so why the excessive confusion now?

Pete

 

[sebpil]

Just now, Pete Dowson said:

You need to do a proper calibration. For flaps you can calibrate for each flap position in turn.

The documentation for FSUIPC is installed for you when you installed FSUIPC. Didn't you bother reading the Installation guide provided?

You don't say which version of FSUIPC (nor sim) you are using, but if you have been using the same version for years surely you are using FSUIPC4 or at best FSUIPC5? Both are installed in your FSX/P3D Modules folder, and the documentation is in the (obscurely named?) FSUIPC Documents folder.

Proper flaps detente (Dt) calibration is fully described in the User Manual.

If you actually mean a more recent purchase -- FSUIPC6 or FSUIPC7, then you will find the FSUIPC documentation in your main Documents folder within the one called "FSUIPC6" or "FSUIPC7".

The Installation document accompanying the install foile for FSUIPC does tell you these things!

You evidently didn't look far, nor read what is provided in the files you obtain. Obviously the reason you need to re-calibrate is your change in potentiometer. You imply you managed to calibrate correctly before then, so why the excessive confusion now?

Pete

 

You do not have to be sadistic in your replies, I am looking for answers to a problem, I am not a beginner of programming. Instead of those sadistic comments, point in the direction where it is something to read. I cannot find the manual where it is installed. That is why I am asking, and I am asking kindly.

I have calibrated in the FSUIPC module, still the flaps does whatever it wants, I do not know what to do man, that is why I and many others are asking questions.

If you only tell people to read a manual without giving a manual it is hard to guess what is written, sorry to say, I am not a fortune reader.

So back to the topic , when calibration does not work and I am not able to upload images here to make it very, very clear what hapens, then I do not know where to start looking for a solution.

PLEASE some answers.

[sebpil]

By the way I have a bunch of manuals for the fsuipc, about 12 different ones. Which one describes the claibration in fsuipc for flaps?

ASN WX RAdar facilities 
FSUIPC Lua library
FSUIPC 4 offset status
FSUIPC 5 for advanced users
FSUIPC 5 history
Lua license
Lua plugin
Lua file system
Offset mapping for PMDG 737
Offset mapping for PMDG 747
Offset manual for PMDG 777
Profiles in separate files
The 2016 list of FSX and P3d controls

Those are the manuals I have in the directory, not one that says MAIN FSUIPC MANUAL.
 

[Pete Dowson]

4 minutes ago, sebpil said:

You do not have to be sadistic in your replies, I am looking for answers to a problem, I am not a beginner of programming.

There's nothing "sadistic" in pointing out that it is all documented.  I even tried to point you to where to find it!

5 minutes ago, sebpil said:

I cannot find the manual where it is installed.

Without you telling me what version of FSUIPC you are using I cannot be that precise. but it would have been stated in the Installation document included in your FSUIPC download. Did you read that?

For FSUIP3, FSUIPC4 and FSUIPC5 the documentation is, as i said, in the FSUIPC Documents folder in your Sim's Modules folder.

For FSUIPC6 and FSUIPC7 it is in the FSUIPC6 or FSUIPC7 folder in your own Documents folder.

9 minutes ago, sebpil said:

If you only tell people to read a manual without giving a manual it is hard to guess what is written, sorry to say, I am not a fortune reader.

How did you manage to get FSUIPC without using the Installer, which always also installs the manuals? Have oyu looked where i suggested?

Pete

[Pete Dowson]

8 minutes ago, sebpil said:

By the way I have a bunch of manuals for the fsuipc, about 12 different ones. Which one describes the claibration in fsuipc for flaps?

Where are you getting that list from?  The FSUIPC5 User Manual and Advanced users manual (the prime documentation for FSUIPC) are also ALWAYS installed as well as those extra ones. It looks like you either deleted them by mistake or somehow suffered a failed install. I suggest that you download again and reinstall FSUIPC. 

It seems very odd that you have every document installed with FSUIPC except those two main ones! How have you managed all these years before you changed the potentiometer?

Pete

 

[sebpil]

Okay, this can now be closed. I managed to solve the problem of calibration with detentes, that you did explain WRONG in the manual for FSUIPC ver 5.
But after a few minutes of cracking your explanation it seems like you turn things upside down in the manual.
When you do the opposite of what it tells, it works. If you do as it says, you only get a BLING tone with no explanation. 

If you could insert a popup windows each time the BLING sound comes, that explains what is wrong, that would solve many, if not all, questions asked in this forum.
Only a sound does not tell much, then you have to guess what is wrong, and that is not easy.

Well I am satisfied that I managed to crack the manual that does not say anything about calibrating the flaps in different ways, just in one way, maybe the way you programmed it, but not updated with new problem solutions.

Think upside down when you look in the manual for the flaps calibration and edit some text, then everyone should understand what you mean.
This is not an easy problem to solve, many, many users find this strange, I am just one of them.

Well this topic can be closed and for those of you who read, it took me about 5 hours to crack the faulty FSUIPC5 manual, so don't blame yourself if you do not understand how it should be done.

 

Topic can be closed.

[sebpil]

3 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said:

Where are you getting that list from?  The FSUIPC5 User Manual and Advanced users manual (the prime documentation for FSUIPC) are also ALWAYS installed as well as those extra ones. It looks like you either deleted them by mistake or somehow suffered a failed install. I suggest that you download again and reinstall FSUIPC. 

It seems very odd that you have every document installed with FSUIPC except those two main ones! How have you managed all these years before you changed the potentiometer?

Pete

 

Well there are other ways to program a full size flight simulator without needing to program and reprogram the FSUIPC. That is how things can be done.
For an instance it is impossible to calibrate using FSUIPC when you use cermet potantiometers, but that is another topic. I am only using professional potentiometers in my simulator and that might be a problem as well.

[Pete Dowson]

10 minutes ago, sebpil said:

Well there are other ways to program a full size flight simulator without needing to program and reprogram the FSUIPC

Of course. You don't need FSUIPC at all. It's a user choice. There are facilities in the SIM itself.

But changing hardware and expecting previous settings to do the same as before is a bit of a stretch. No matter what way you choose.

10 minutes ago, sebpil said:

For an instance it is impossible to calibrate using FSUIPC when you use cermet potantiometers,

And why would that be? Are they totally inconsistent in the values they supply? Does calibration need adjusting for room temperature or humidity?

10 minutes ago, sebpil said:

I am only using professional potentiometers in my simulator and that might be a problem as well.

I've recently changed to Hall Effect pots in my 737 cockpit.  They work very well indeed. Recommended.

Pete