How to assign Win+Y to a button

[NAX]

To be able to change between vPilot and sim, I need to press Win+Y. Tried assigning it as a buttom press, but FSUIPS do not seem to detect the Win button at all.

I cannot find a way to change the WMR shortcut to something else, so I'm kinda stuck and out of ideas.

Any help appriciated

[John Dowson]

Use of the win key causes issues as it is reserved for use by windows. You cannot currently use this as a modifier for assigning key presses to buttons (or in key assignments).
I surprised you need win+Y for this - according to the Microsoft documentation (see https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/keyboard-shortcuts-in-windows-dcc61a57-8ff0-cffe-9796-cb9706c75eec), that is:

Windows logo key  + Y

Switch input between Windows Mixed Reality and your desktop.

You should be able to change this in windows, most probably with a registry edit. Try google...
I could possibly allow this as a modifier for button assignments to key presses - I will check this.

John

[John Dowson]

I've looked into this further and I don't think this is going to be possible...
The problem with the win key shortcuts is that windows interprets them first and if there is a windows assignment then that is performed and the key press used is not passed on to FSUIPC, so it is not possible to assign a button press to this key press combination. However, you can assign to win+? key presses if there is no windows assignment to such a key press - but then, what is the point?

However, it may be possible by assigning to the FSUIPC control Key Press & Release. I've just realized that I haven't updated these yet to use the updated shifts to handle the left/right modifiers for the shift, alt and control keys. I will look into and correct this, hopefully next week, and see if I can add another shift code there to allow the win key to be used as a modifier using that control (as well as the individual press/release controls).

 

 

[John Dowson]

3 hours ago, John Dowson said:

However, it may be possible by assigning to the FSUIPC control Key Press & Release. I've just realized that I haven't updated these yet to use the updated shifts to handle the left/right modifiers for the shift, alt and control keys. I will look into and correct this, hopefully next week, and see if I can add another shift code there to allow the win key to be used as a modifier using that control (as well as the individual press/release controls).

I've updated this now and have also allowed for use of the win key with the FSUIPC-added controls for sending keys. I'll test tomorrow, and if all is ok I will release this at the weekend (Sunday).

John

[NAX]

TaDaaa!!! Excellent news John! Will sure make handeling classics apps together with msfs in VR a lot easier. 
Thanks and have a nice day

[John Dowson]

@NAX I have put together a pre-release if you would like to try it - available from:
            http://www.fsuipc.com/download/Install_FSUIPC735.zip

- copy and paste that link into a new browser tab to download as clicking (probably) it won't work

To send Win+Y, assign your button to Key Press and Release with a parameter of 89+512 (where 89 is the virtual key code for the Y key, and 512 is the shifts code for the Win key).

This will hopefully be the same version I will be releasing on Sunday 29th, although I will update the MF events.txt file again before release.

John

[NAX]

Thanks John. Will test within a few hours and report

[NAX]

I only get to assign it as Y, but I might type the wrong syntax.

Adding +512 after 89 will not stick when ini is saved, so i only get 89 working.
Reading advanced manuals now to try to sort it out.

EDIT: it's a comma, not a plus...  okidoki

[NAX]

adding the line:

 

1=PH,28,K89,512,8
 

When trying the button in FSUIPC it turnes up as rctrl+y.

Cannot get it to work with the 512 command. It acts like the 128 shift-command

[John Dowson]

Can you explain what you are doing...this is the assignment I tested with, Win+R (win+Y doesn't trigger anything I can test...):

[John Dowson]

16 minutes ago, NAX said:

adding the line:

1=PH,28,K89,512,8

What is this? As I said, you have to assign to the Key Press & Release control, right hand side of the assignments dialog, not send as a keypress on the left. That cannot be used as windows hijacks the key press and it won't register.

 

[John Dowson]

Thinking about this a bit more, it may be possible to allow this to be sent as a key press assignment...I will implement and check before I release to see if I can enable, but in the version I posted you will have to use the key press controls.

John

[NAX]

I'll let you think about it. Sorry for not getting the part with Key press. I actually tried that first without result, then I went to Buttons and only assigned Y to get the line in the .ini, then adding the <SHIFT> value after K89.

I'll look for your release and read carefully about the added functionality.

Have a nice weekend

[NAX]

[John Dowson]

1 minute ago, NAX said:

I actually tried that first without result,

Really? You should show me what you tried...I need to see your FSUIPC7.ini and an FSUIPC7.log file with Buttons & Keys logging activated. It should be sending the assigned key press if done properly, as in the screenshot I posted (but using 89+512, as indicated. If that is not working I would like to understand why...

4 minutes ago, NAX said:

I'll look for your release and read carefully about the added functionality.

But there may be no change...you should test this now, before I release, if you want this working...

5 minutes ago, NAX said:

No idea what this is supposed to mean...

 

[NAX]

 

This worked PERFECT. Bare in mind the Parameter needed to be 89+512, not 82+512.

Thanks for exellent and prompte implementation!

[John Dowson]

50 minutes ago, NAX said:

Bare in mind the Parameter needed to be 89+512, not 82+512.

Of course - I used 82 (R) so that I could test with Win+R that opens the windows 'run' command window -  I did tell you this earlier on:

On 5/27/2022 at 12:22 PM, John Dowson said:

To send Win+Y, assign your button to Key Press and Release with a parameter of 89+512 (where 89 is the virtual key code for the Y key, and 512 is the shifts code for the Win key).

Anyway, glad you finally figured it out.