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Hello Pete !

I have a problem assigning thrust reverse with the saitek pro flight throttle. As you may already know, reverse on this quadrant isn't part of the throttle axis, but simply a button toggle. That is, below reverse, it is the same as a "push and maintain button" action

I use the dreamfleet 727 and managed to configure separate reverse thrust using the FSUIPC command (FSUIPC direct) "throttle 1 dec", "throttle 2 dec", "throttle 3 dec", and ticking the "repeat" box. That works fine but it is giving me full reverse thrust 1 second after going into reverse, and the airplane stops quite quickly.

My question is : is there a way to get only partial reverse thrust per engine ? For example, only half reverse power ? I tried using the command "throttle x set" instead of "throttle x dec", and putting a -2000 value parameter for example (because as I understood it, reverse thrust is going from 0 to -4096...) but when I do this I get no reverse at all. I also tried with various parameters (,-1000, -13000, -20000, etc...) but to no avail.

I'm quite sure I'm doing something wrong here but I'm stuck, I don't manage to see where the problem lies.

I run FSUIPC v3.768, here is an extract of the FSUIPC.ini file :

[JoystickCalibration]

ExclThrottleSet=No

SepRevsJetsOnly=No

ApplyHeloTrim=No

FlapsSetControl=0

FlapDetents=No

ReverserControl=66292

Reverser1Control=66422

Reverser2Control=66425

Reverser3Control=66428

Reverser4Control=66431

MaxThrottleForReverser=256

AileronTrimControl=0

RudderTrimControl=0

CowlFlaps1Control=0

CowlFlaps2Control=0

CowlFlaps3Control=0

CowlFlaps4Control=0

MaxSteerSpeed=60

LeftBrake=-16383,16384/16

RightBrake=-16383,16384/16

Aileron=-16384,0,0,16383

SlopeAileron=5

Elevator=-16384,0,0,16383

SlopeElevator=8

SlopeLeftBrake=6

SlopeRightBrake=6

Throttle1=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383

Throttle2=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383

Throttle3=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383

[Axes]

8=2X,256,D,22,0,0,0

9=2Y,256,D,23,0,0,0

10=2Y,B,13824,16383,65760,1

11=2Y,B,8960,13824,65760,2

12=2Y,B,4992,9088,65760,3

0=0X,256,D,7,0,0,0

1=0Y,256,D,8,0,0,0

2=0R,256,D,3,0,0,0

3=1X,256,D,1,0,0,0

4=1Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

5=1Z,256,D,9,0,0,0

6=1R,256,D,11,0,0,0

7=1U,256,D,10,0,0,0

13=2Y,B,-390,4992,65760,4

14=2Y,B,-4681,-520,65760,5

15=2Y,B,-8842,-4681,65760,6

16=2Y,B,-12223,-8842,65760,7

17=2Y,B,-16384,-12223,65760,8

18=2Z,256

19=2Z,U,1280,16383,66079,0

20=2Z,D,-16384,1280,66080,0

[buttons]

1=R1,2,C65607,0

2=R1,3,C65615,0

3=R1,4,C65607,0

4=R1,5,C65615,0

5=R1,20,C66635,0

6=R1,21,C66636,0

7=R1,22,C66637,0

9=U1,21,C65972,0

10=U1,22,C65977,0

11=P1,1,C65589,0

12=P1,0,C65570,0

13=U1,20,C65967,0

14=P1,32,C66416,0

[JoystickCalibration.Dreamfleet Boeing 727-200 Freighter TNT]

ExclThrottleSet=No

SepRevsJetsOnly=No

ApplyHeloTrim=No

FlapsSetControl=0

FlapDetents=No

ReverserControl=66292

Reverser1Control=66422

Reverser2Control=66425

Reverser3Control=66428

Reverser4Control=66431

MaxThrottleForReverser=256

AileronTrimControl=0

RudderTrimControl=0

CowlFlaps1Control=0

CowlFlaps2Control=0

CowlFlaps3Control=0

CowlFlaps4Control=0

MaxSteerSpeed=60

Aileron=-16384,0,0,16383

SlopeAileron=5

Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380

SlopeElevator=8

Rudder=-16380,-512,512,16380

SlopeRudder=3

LeftBrake=-16383,16384/16

SlopeLeftBrake=8

RightBrake=-16383,16384/16

SlopeRightBrake=8

Throttle1=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383

Throttle2=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383

Throttle3=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383

Spoilers=-16383,16384/16

Flaps=-16384,16383/16

Thank you for your help ! :)

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I have a problem assigning thrust reverse with the saitek pro flight throttle. As you may already know, reverse on this quadrant isn't part of the throttle axis, but simply a button toggle.

No, I didn't know that at all. That sounds like the system on the GoFlight throttle quadrant. I must admist it doesn't sound like a good mathod to me.

My question is : is there a way to get only partial reverse thrust per engine ? For example, only half reverse power ? I tried using the command "throttle x set" instead of "throttle x dec", and putting a -2000 value parameter for example (because as I understood it, reverse thrust is going from 0 to -4096...) but when I do this I get no reverse at all. I also tried with various parameters (,-1000, -13000, -20000, etc...) but to no avail.

That's because you have the Throttle x Set axis control calibrated through FSUIPC with no reverse zone.

I run FSUIPC v3.768

If you are going to use an interim version of FSUIPC, please at least use the latest. That one is pretty old now. 3.783 is the current one.

Your INI file shows you still have ThrottleN_Set controls going through the calibration:

ExclThrottleSet=No

Go to the 4-throttles tab in FSUIPC options and check the option at bottom right to make FSUIPC allow those controls through un-calibrated.

BTW, the actual reverse range is only down to -4096 when the maximum reverse thrust is set to 25% in the aircraft's CFG file. It varies from aircraft to aircraft.

Regards

Pete

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Like Pete says

I did a couple of edits for aircraft when I used FS9, and have a look at:

aircraft.cfg

[GeneralEngineData]

min_throttle_limit = -0.25 //Minimum percent throttle. Generally negative for turbine reverser

and make this like -0.12

and you would have 50% reverse (havent tested)

actually I have a Saitek and using FSX and dont mind lots of reverse

specially at aerosoft's Lukla airport (Himalaya) you want Lots of It :D

also

I have the throttle button 'when button released' do 'throttle# Cut'

for the throttle button seems to 'stick' to reverse (at least my feelthere 737) when returned to 0

what made me advance throttles a bit after landing reverse, and gives a weird accelleration 'bump'.

mt

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