FSUIPC4 and Fatal Error Message

[karbil]

Although I had 151 views to my post, I had only one response. Over time,however, I was able to fix the problem and thought posting that fix may help others. I learned from other posts how to delete my FSX.CFG and text file from my Documents and Settings,etc. file, restart FSX and allow it to rebuild those files. As FSX was loading, it would ask me if I wanted Acceleration to set my assignments(I do have Acceleration),I clicked "yes", and it asked me if I wanted to load the newest FSUIPC,to which I also clicked "yes". The fatal error message continued to occur. The most recent time, however, I just took a chance and clicked "no" to loading the most recent FSUIPC. Amazingly, no more fatal error message and all is well. I am not savvy enough to know why this fixed the problem, but I'll take the end result. Hope this is helpful to someone else. I do wonder, however, even though FSX seems to be running fine, do I need to find a way to run FSUIPC without causing the fatal error message?

Bob K.

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[Pete Dowson]

As FSX was loading, it would ask me if I wanted Acceleration to set my assignments(I do have Acceleration),I clicked "yes", and it asked me if I wanted to load the newest FSUIPC,to which I also clicked "yes". The fatal error message continued to occur. The most recent time, however, I just took a chance and clicked "no" to loading the most recent FSUIPC. Amazingly, no more fatal error message and all is well. I am not savvy enough to know why this fixed the problem, but I'll take the end result. Hope this is helpful to someone else. I do wonder, however, even though FSX seems to be running fine, do I need to find a way to run FSUIPC without causing the fatal error message?

If you don't use FSUIPC for anything, and you have no addons which use it for anything, then you don't need it installed.

But please tell me. Why did you install it, and what, exactly is this "fatal error message"? It needs to be investigated and fixed because even if you don't need FSUIPC it may be the result of a problem in SimConnect, and that will also affect other addons, not just those using FSUIPC.

So, could you do three things, please:

1. Tell me the exact content of the fatal error message -- and if there's a place to click to ask for more details, please do so and note the Module name, Error code and address of the error.

2. Find and paste here the Installer log for FSUIPC4, which you will find in the FSX Modules folder.

3. Find and paste here the FSUIPC4.LOG file which you may find in the FSX modules folder. If it isn't there, please say so, as this is an indication that SimConnect didn't load it.

Thanks.

Regards

Pete

[karbil]

Thank you for your quick response. Before I send you the info requested, please allow me to respond to your first question. I have been using FSX and then with Accelerator with lots of add-ons successfully since each came out. All of a sudden, when I would click on "fly now" and I would be looking at my vc panel and down the runway, FSX would either give me a fatal error message or my entire system would freeze and the only thing I could do is turn off my computer, wait a minute and turn it back on. All the fatal error message gave me was that FSX would have to close and I could chose to have it re-start or not. I also was given a choice of sending an error report or not. No other information was available. After posting on two other forums(yesterday someone advised me to contact yours) I was told to delete FSX.CFG and text, re-start FSX and let it rebuild. When I did that I was first asked if I wanted the assgnments done for me and after that I was asked if I wanted to run FSUIPC. If I click to the latter, I get the problem prior described. If I chose not to run FSUIPC as asked, it seems all is well. I do have the latest install of FSUIPC4 and it is in my Modules folder. Again, thanks for the response and I'll try to send the info you asked for as soon as possible. I must say, I was first kind of taken aback that THE Pete Dowson was bothering to respond to my post.

Bob K.

[karbil]

It's me again. Here is a copy of my install log file. I do not have a FSUIPC.LOG file. I do have a text file of data that looks like another kind of log that is the second copy. Thank you. Bob K.

nstaller for FSUIPC4.DLL version 4.53

Looking in registry for FSX install path:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\10.0

Parameter"SetupPath"

... >>> OK! FOUND FSX! <<< ...

Looking in registry for ESP install path:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft ESP\1.0

Parameter"SetupPath"

Not there, so looking in:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft ESP\1.0

Parameter"AppPath"

... NOT found! ...

===========================================================

INSTALLATION FOR FSX:

AppPath="C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X"

Checking version of FSX.EXE:

... Version 10.0.61637.0 (Need at least 10.0.60905.0)

Checking compatibility with installed SimConnect:

Found SimConnect build 60905 (Original)

Found SimConnect build 61259 (Acc/SP2 Oct07)

Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC4 installed in:

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL

... Version 4.400 found.

FSX Modules folder already exists.

Okay -- installed FSUIPC4 into "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL"

Looking for the current user's Application Data path:

... found as "C:\Documents and Settings\Daniel1\Application Data"

Now finding \Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG for all users, including this one

Looking in "C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Documents and Settings\basket.aspx_files\Application Data"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Documents and Settings\Daniel1\Application Data"

Found FSX.CFG in "C:\Documents and Settings\Daniel1\Application Data\Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG"

Now checking DLL.XML ...

... There is a previous DLL.XML, checking for FSUIPC4 section.

... FSUIPC4 section already exists but will be replaced.

... FSUIPC4 section of DLL.XML written okay

Now checking for a SimConnect.XML file ...

... No SimConnect.XML file found. This is okay.

Looking in "C:\Documents and Settings\Default User\Application Data"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\Application Data"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Application Data"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Documents and Settings\Test1\Application Data"

No FSX.CFG there

Now installing additional files into the Modules folder:

Installed "FSUIPC4 User Guide.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC4 for Advanced Users.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC4 History.pdf" okay

Installed "List of FSX controls.pdf" okay

Installed "GlobalSign Root.exe" okay

Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay

Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay

Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay

FSUIPC4.DLL installed and signature checked out okay!

Deleted GlobalSign Root fix programno longer relevant

===========================================================

All installer tasks completed okay!

Registration offers were declined

*************** End of Install Log ***************

FSUIPC4, Version 4.53 by Pete Dowson *********

Reading options from "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini"

User Name=""

User Addr=""

FSUIPC4 not user registered

WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired

Running inside FSX (using SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07)

Module base=61000000

Wind smoothing fix is fully installed

DebugStatus=0

234 System time = 04/10/2009 16:28:23

234 FLT UNC path = "C:\Documents and Settings\Daniel1\My Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\"

234 FS UNC path = "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\"

1469 LogOptions=00000000 00000001

1469 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay

14562 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61637.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0)

14562 Initialising SimConnect data requests now

14562 FSUIPC Menu entry added

14672 C:\Documents and Settings\Daniel1\My Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\Clearwater.FLT

14672 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\C172\Cessna172SP.AIR

207297 Weather Mode now = Theme

207297 C:\Documents and Settings\Daniel1\Application Data\Microsoft\FSX\Previous flight.FLT

395781 System time = 04/10/2009 16:34:58, Simulator time = 16:28:40 (20:28Z)

[Pete Dowson]

All the fatal error message gave me was that FSX would have to close and I could chose to have it re-start or not. I also was given a choice of sending an error report or not. No other information was available.

Hmm. That's unusual. Most of Windows' crash reports give an ability to click to get more information.

After posting on two other forums(yesterday someone advised me to contact yours) I was told to delete FSX.CFG and text, re-start FSX and let it rebuild. When I did that I was first asked if I wanted the assgnments done for me and after that I was asked if I wanted to run FSUIPC

The only reason it asks (again) about FSUIPC is because when you delete the CFG file you also delete all of the Trusted Module permissions you've agreed to beforehand. If it asks about no other add-ons then really you have no other SimConnect applications installed, nor any add-on Gauges which require trust permissions. Either that, or you've told Windows you trust their publisher but have not yet told it that you trust mine (simFlight in current versions of FSUIPC).

I do have the latest install of FSUIPC4 and it is in my Modules folder.

Right. And are there any other files there named as FSUIPC4? I am particularly interested in an FSUIPC4.LOG file, which is a text file and can be pasted in a message here. It may tell us what the problem may be, or at least provide a start.

There may also be an Install Log file there. It would be useful to see that too, as it contains information about your system.

if you really don't want to use FSUIPC4 at all, then naturally you have no need to bother. But I would be concerned that there is something quite seriously wrong with your system which may well manifest itself in other ways. It would be best to determine what the problem is, if you'd care to help discover this. Okay?

Regards

Pete

[karbil]

Yes. I would be happy to find out if something is lurking. BTW, did you see the info I sent to re the files?

Bob K.

[Pete Dowson]

It's me again. Here is a copy of my install log file. I do not have a FSUIPC.LOG file. I do have a text file of data that looks like another kind of log that is the second copy.

The second file you appended IS "FSUIPC4.LOG", as I asked for. It can't be anything else! There won't be an "FSUIPC.LOG" file -- that only gets produced on FS9 and before, by FSUIPC3.

Some remarks on the logs:

Checking version of FSX.EXE:

... Version 10.0.61637.0 (Need at least 10.0.60905.0)

Checking compatibility with installed SimConnect:

Found SimConnect build 60905 (Original)

Found SimConnect build 61259 (Acc/SP2 Oct07)

It is rather odd that you have the base (original) SimConnect, from the FSX DVDs, and the SP2 or Acceleration one, but no SP1 copy. Have you done any sort of uninstalling or re-installing of FSX or its updates at all? It seems this often results in a messed up SimConnect setup.

Apart from that the install was good. The previous version of FSUIPC4 you had was 4.40.

The FSUIPC4 log was good too:

Running inside FSX (using SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07)

...

14562 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61637.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0)

...

14672 C:\Documents and Settings\Daniel1\My Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\Clearwater.FLT

14672 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\C172\Cessna172SP.AIR

Now this is the point where it has loaded your default flight, "Clearwater" with the Cessna 172. All well and good, no crash at all. I assume now you were at the selection screen where you seemed to stay for many minutes -- unless it took a very long time for the selected flight to load:

207297 C:\Documents and Settings\Daniel1\Application Data\Microsoft\FSX\Previous flight.FLT

395781 System time = 04/10/2009 16:34:58, Simulator time = 16:28:40 (20:28Z)

This is where you apparently loaded a different flight -- the one called "Previous flight", now actually 6 minutes and 36 seconds into the FSX session. Looks like it took nearly 3.5 minutes to get to choose the flight to be loaded, and then the flight itself took over 3 minutes more to load! That's a very long time! Have you got very complex scenery, or a slow PC or a very slow disk?

Two questions therefore arise from this:

1) What happens if you just "Fly Now" with the default flight, instead of making other selections in that initial menu? It seems to me that the likely problem is something corrupt in that "Previous Flight".

2) The "previous flight" is normally one created at the end of a previous session. However, FSX normally doesn't do this, unlike FS9, and, in fact, FSUIPC4 provides this service. Could it be that, at the time of that last "previous flight" being saved, things were in, perhaps, a precarious state?

Please try with the default flight, and with creating a different flight. Avoid that "previous flight" for now!

[LATER]

Oh, one other thing which may save time. In case there's some interaction with another SimConnect add-in, could you please find the DLL.XML file in this folder:

C:\Documents and Settings\Daniel1\Application Data\Microsoft\FSX

and paste it into a reply here? It is a text file despite the name.

If there's an EXE.XML there as well, let me see that too, please.

Thanks.

Regards

Pete

[karbil]

Thank you so much for the comprehensive response. I am running on a rather older machine. My specs are:

Dell Dimension 8400

Windows XP Media center edition

Pentium 4 cpu

2.99GHz 1.00 gig ram

I do have a few scenery add-ons for specific airports ,but I also have GEX and UTX installed. I have UTX, however, cranked down somewhat. In regard to default flight versus previous flight, the latter was attempted to be loaded when on start-up of FSX,when asked, I ran FSUIPC. The default flight was loaded successfully after I closed FSX, re-started, and did not run FSUIPC. Please know that any flight I load, including missions, freezes or gives me a fatal error message if I at start-up run FSUIPC. All flights load fine and all goes well if I do not run FSUIPC.

Well, with all of that said, here is the additional info you requested. I do appreciate your continued interest and help.

Bob K.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252" ?>

-

Launch

dll.xml

False

False

-

Object Placement Tool

True

False

..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Mission Creation Kit\object_placement.dll

-

Traffic Toolbox

True

False

..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll

-

Visual Effects Tool

True

False

..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Special Effects SDK\visualfxtool.dll

-

FSUIPC 4

False

Modules\FSUIPC4.dll

Launch

exe.xml

False

False

[Pete Dowson]

In regard to default flight versus previous flight, the latter was attempted to be loaded when on start-up of FSX,when asked, I ran FSUIPC. The default flight was loaded successfully after I closed FSX, re-started, and did not run FSUIPC. Please know that any flight I load, including missions, freezes or gives me a fatal error message if I at start-up run FSUIPC.

But the default flight did not, apparently -- it lasted several minutes. I'm not sure how you get the "previous flight" running if you don't select it, as it is obviously NOT the default flight.

All flights load fine and all goes well if I do not run FSUIPC.

That merely means that the data which is causing the crash is not used otherwise. If you had not already deleted your FSX.CFG file and generated another with a new default flight, I would suspect the Weather file stored with that, or the "previous flight" file.

There's no non-FS add-on being loaded in your EXE or DLL XML files. so this leaves us with only one option --- a SimConnect log. If you visit the "FSX Help" announcement above you will find instructions on obtaining a SimConnect log. Try that. Do NOT do the SimConnect deletion and re-install part.

When you have a log for a failed FSX start with FSUIPC, ZIP it up and send it by attachment to petedowson@btconnect.com.

Regards

Pete

[karbil]

Thank you again,Pete. I will get the info to you as soon as I can. BTW, I have not done an unistall of FSX. As you can see, I have installed the Acceleration package. Get back to you. P.S. I am sorry to bug you but I can not find the instructions for obtaining the simconnect log. I did go to the Simhow website. Would you be so kind as to direct me more specifically or provide me a link? Thank you.

Bob K.

[Pete Dowson]

BTW, I have not done an unistall of FSX. As you can see, I have installed the Acceleration package.

Yes, but I am sure that installs both the SP1 and SP2 versions of SimConnect, yet your SP1 version is missing. It should not matter unless you are using an application which depends upon it (and there are quite a few now), but it is worrying as it is indicative of something wrong, something perhaps that went wrong during installation. And since FSUIPC4 is probably the most intensive SimConnect user out there (and it appears you have no others anyway, at least no others loading automatically), it is the only one tripping over the problems which may have thus been caused.

But let's look further first before contemplating a clean-up and re-install.

I can not find the instructions for obtaining the simconnect log. I did go to the Simhow website. Would you be so kind as to direct me more specifically

At the very top of this Forum there are a series of entries called "Announcements". it is within those that I supply a lot of help, lists and updates. One of them has the title "FSX HELP: Logging or Re-installing SimConnect ". it is that one which I refer to, for short, as "the FSX Help announcement".

I don't actually understand how you get into this Forum without seeing the Announcements. I cannot find a way to do it! Please, how is it done? If i knew then perhaps i could stop it, because the Announcement facilities are rather a futile effort if folks don't automatically see them when they arrive! :-(

Regards

Pete

[karbil]

Well, I'm just a big DUHHHH! I did see the announcements when I first registered, but was so focused on getting to your specific forum, I only scanned them. I did find the correct FSX Help you posted and will get back to you when I have been able to follow the directions and send to you the Simconnect.log I do appreciate your patience. I am not e newbie but I am also not a computer whiz either. I too thought that SP1 was part of acceleration pack as well. I truly would hate to do an entire clean install. Again, thank you for your continued help. P.S. Here is the file I created. Does it look correct or do I have to show the entire path by: "c:\program files\microsoft games\flight simulator x\modules\etc.?

[simConnect]

level=Verbose

console=No

file=\Modules\SimConnect%01u.Log

file_max_index=9

Bob K.

[karbil]

Hi Pete, Here is a copy of the Simconnect.ini file I created and place as you suggested. I note that it is an ".ini.text" file. Is that O.K.? If not, I do not know how to make it a pure :.ini" file. Anyway, I did load FSX and ran FSUIPC. BTW, this time it only took 2 minutes. Well, when I clicked on "fly now" the flight started in Clearwater, sound went out and all at first froze. If I put my cursor on the panel, the hour glass showed. Then the Fatal Error message showed and the program closed back to desktop. When I went to my Modules folder,however, there was no Simconnect log there. Here is a copy of the most recent load file. Thank you for your continued help. Bob K.

******* FSUIPC4, Version 4.53 by Pete Dowson *********

Reading options from "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini"

User Name=""

User Addr=""

FSUIPC4 not user registered

WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired

Running inside FSX (using SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07)

Module base=61000000

Wind smoothing fix is fully installed

DebugStatus=0

187 System time = 11/10/2009 12:06:10

187 FLT UNC path = "C:\Documents and Settings\Daniel1\My Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\"

203 FS UNC path = "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\"

1390 LogOptions=00000000 00000001

1390 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay

12359 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61637.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0)

12359 Initialising SimConnect data requests now

12359 FSUIPC Menu entry added

12531 C:\Documents and Settings\Daniel1\My Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\Clearwater.FLT

12531 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\C172\Cessna172SP.AIR

148953 System time = 11/10/2009 12:08:39, Simulator time = 12:06:26 (16:06Z)

[Pete Dowson]

I too thought that SP1 was part of acceleration pack as well. I truly would hate to do an entire clean install.

I don't think it will come to that, but it is very suspicious that the SP1 Simconnect is missing, and since SP2/Acceleration is an increment on SP1 and it must be present for a correct installation, not only of SimConnect, but of FSX itself, it does strongly imply that this is where the problems originate.

I think it may be wise to uninstall Acceleration, delete the two later SimConnect folders in Windows WinSxS (not the base one which is okay), then re-install Acceleration. This would not disturb anything else you've added.

Here is the file I created. Does it look correct or do I have to show the entire path by: "c:\program files\microsoft games\flight simulator x\modules\etc.?

sorry, the path to wherever you would like to place the log file should be included, else how can Windows find where to put it? The idea of the part "" was only to show you where to put the path to FSX -- that is why it says so. In itself the "" string is most certainly unlikely to be a valid path to anything, unless you happen to have mapped your FSX path to exactly "" -- which seems highly unlikely as I don't think "<" and ">" are valid characters in pathnames! ;-)

You don't have to put the logs in the Modules folder -- you can use any path and filename you like. I just recommend that to keep all of the diagnostic information together!

Regards

Pete

[UlfB]

I too thought that SP1 was part of acceleration pack as well. I truly would hate to do an entire clean install.

I don't think it will come to that, but it is very suspicious that the SP1 Simconnect is missing, and since SP2/Acceleration is an increment on SP1 and it must be present for a correct installation, not only of SimConnect, but of FSX itself, it does strongly imply that this is where the problems originate.

I think it may be wise to uninstall Acceleration, delete the two later SimConnect folders in Windows WinSxS (not the base one which is okay), then re-install Acceleration. This would not disturb anything else you've added.

Hi Pete,

I haven't got any reference to a SP1 SimmConnect version in my FSUIPC4 Install.log:

.................................

INSTALLATION FOR FSX:

AppPath="H:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\"

Checking version of FSX.EXE:

... Version 10.0.61637.0 (Need at least 10.0.60905.0)

Checking compatibility with installed SimConnect:

Found SimConnect build 60905 (Original)

Found SimConnect build 61259 (Acc/SP2 Oct07)

Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC4 installed in:

H:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL

... Version 4.520 found.

.................................

I have no problem at all with FSX and FSUIPC!

[Pete Dowson]

I haven't got any reference to a SP1 SimmConnect version in my FSUIPC4 Install.log

... I have no problem at all with FSX and FSUIPC!

Hmmm. Maybe your SP1 was installed okay and only the SimConnect side-by-side installation got screwed somehow. FSUIPC will use the latest it finds, so if that is the only installation problem, you would only get any resulting problems at all if you tried to use an add-on which is specifically written to use SP1 SimConnect -- as with, I think (for instance) the original (unfixed) version of UT2, and just possibly ASX (run locally of course).

I am worried in the crashing case that something else in the SP1 update, as possibly a module, is missing (rather out of date), so that the Acceleration version of the FSX modules are using an out-of-date original version of one of those.

Mind you, looking at my final set of DLLs in the FSX folder, this hypothesis does look unlikely. Anyway, I list the state of my FSX modules here for comparison:

• 26/09/2007 17:07 105,024 ablscpt.dll
  26/09/2007 17:08 191,552 acontain.dll
  26/09/2007 17:08 262,720 ai_player.dll
  26/09/2007 17:09 1,289,280 api.dll
  26/09/2007 17:08 405,056 atc.dll
  26/09/2007 17:08 244,288 controls.dll
  26/09/2007 17:07 79,936 demo.dll
  26/09/2007 17:07 93,760 eula.dll
  26/09/2007 17:08 273,472 facilities.dll
  26/09/2007 17:09 1,134,144 fe.dll
  26/09/2007 17:08 508,992 flight.dll
  26/09/2007 17:07 89,664 fs-traffic.dll
  26/09/2007 17:09 1,550,912 fsui.dll
  26/09/2007 17:09 707,136 g2d.dll
  26/09/2007 17:09 903,744 g3d.dll
  05/07/2006 22:13 62,232 GameuxInstallHelper.dll
  26/09/2007 17:07 137,280 gps.dll
  26/09/2007 17:08 474,176 language.dll
  26/09/2007 17:07 130,624 livingwater.dll
  26/09/2007 17:09 1,002,560 main.dll
  26/09/2007 17:09 1,827,904 mspac.dll
  26/09/2007 17:08 173,120 mspacres.dll
  26/09/2007 17:09 824,384 multiplayer.dll
  26/09/2007 17:08 456,768 panels.dll
  26/09/2007 17:09 889,408 sim1.dll
  26/09/2007 17:08 179,776 simprop.dll
  26/09/2007 17:09 837,184 simpropace.dll
  26/09/2007 17:08 197,696 simpropext.dll
  26/09/2007 17:07 42,560 simscheduler.dll
  26/09/2007 17:09 815,168 sldlext.dll
  26/09/2007 17:08 198,208 sound.dll
  26/09/2007 17:08 188,480 symmap.dll
  26/09/2007 17:09 906,816 terrain.dll
  26/09/2007 17:09 880,704 ui.dll
  26/09/2007 17:08 244,288 util.dll
  26/09/2007 17:08 203,840 visualfx.dll
  26/09/2007 17:08 330,304 weather.dll
  26/09/2007 17:08 180,800 window.dll
  26/09/2007 17:09 689,216 xuipc.dll
  39 File(s) 19,713,176 bytes
  

If the problem isn't in the updated modules, then it must either by in the data files, or an add-on. The SimConnect log should help if it is a Simconnect-loaded add-on.

Best Regards

Pete

[karbil]

So if your install log is like mine, why am I still haveing the problem? Oh, I just checked my most recent FSUIPC install log and noticed that it lists my version of FSUIPC as 4.400 but I have version 4.5.30 installed and it does appear in my modules folder?!? Could that be causing FSX to freeze? And if so, how do I fix it. Should I uninstall FSUIPC and do a re-install? Further, is there a way I can get an older version of FSUIPC such as 4.400? Thank you for any help. Bob K.

[Pete Dowson]

So if your install log is like mine, why am I still haveing the problem? Oh, I just checked my most recent FSUIPC install log and noticed that it lists my version of FSUIPC as 4.400 but I have version 4.5.30 installed and it does appear in my modules folder?!?

I must be that you ran the 4.40 installer AFTER the 4.53 one. It wouldn't have replaced the later version. There's no other answer.

could that be causing FSX to freeze?

no. I believe it must be some corruption in FSX somewhere. You SimConnect installation is definitely awry in any case. If you want to fix all this I think were pretty much at the point of at least a full repair if not an install, as I mentioned before.

Regards

Pete

[karbil]

Hi Pete, Well I finally found the time to do as you suggested, that is, delete the latter two simconnects from the Windows file, unistalled Acceleration, and do a clean install of Acceleration. I am pretty sure it was a clean re-install as I had to re-register the product before FSX would load. Unfortunately, my initial problem still persists,again,only if I accept to load FSUIPC. I checked in my Windows file, and I do have three versions of Simconnect: 60905; 61242; and 61259. I would like to install an older version of FSUIPC4 and see if that makes a difference. Is there anyway I can get an older version? Thanks again for any help. Bob K.

[Pete Dowson]

Hi Pete, Well I finally found the time to do as you suggested, that is, delete the latter two simconnects from the Windows file, unistalled Acceleration, and do a clean install of Acceleration. I am pretty sure it was a clean re-install as I had to re-register the product before FSX would load. Unfortunately, my initial problem still persists,again,only if I accept to load FSUIPC.

I'm not clear on why it even persists in asking if you want to load FSUIPC. That is not normal to start with.

Your "initial problem" was this:

I have been using FSX and then with Accelerator with lots of add-ons successfully since each came out. All of a sudden, when I would click on "fly now" and I would be looking at my vc panel and down the runway, FSX would either give me a fatal error message or my entire system would freeze and the only thing I could do is turn off my computer, wait a minute and turn it back on. All the fatal error message gave me was that FSX would have to close and I could chose to have it re-start or not.

Is that the same now? I highlighted "all of a sudden" because that is really what needs examining. Things don't happen of their own accord "all of a sudden". Something must have been changed to do this. And it is that something you need to find igf you want to avoid a complete reinstallation.

I checked in my Windows file, and I do have three versions of Simconnect: 60905; 61242; and 61259.

They might be there, but are they installed correctly. What does the Install log from FSUIPC4 show? You have reinstalled FSUIPC4 since then, I hope?

I would like to install an older version of FSUIPC4 and see if that makes a difference.

No, there really won't be any difference, believe me.

Regards

Pete

[UlfB]

Bob and Pete,

I'm sorry for interrupting, but didn't the SimConnect log show exactly what was going on when FSX crasched?

[karbil]

Hi Pete,(and Ulf), Thanks again for taking the time to respond. Yes, the problem persists but now almost exclusively freezes once the "fly now" flight is loaded. I have done a total re-install of FSUIPC4. Here are copies of the FSUIPC logs. BTW, if an older version of FSUIPC4 is available could you just placate me and provide it to me? Also, the reason I am asked if I want to run FSUIPC4 is when originally I was unable to get anything to work,FSUIPC4 loaded or not, I was advised at another forum to delete my FSX.CFG files, re-start FSX and let the program rebuild. When I did that and startd FSX I was then asked if I wanted to run FSUIPC4. When I selected not to, at least I was able to run FSX. So, now I only run FSUIPC4 when given a choice to do so permanantly or for that time only, I chose for that time only. That,therefore, lets me fly again upon another re-start after the game freezes. I am happy I have that choice,at least. Bob K.

Installer for FSUIPC4.DLL version 4.53

Looking in registry for FSX install path:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\10.0

Parameter"SetupPath"

... >>> OK! FOUND FSX! <<< ...

Looking in registry for ESP install path:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft ESP\1.0

Parameter"SetupPath"

Not there, so looking in:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft ESP\1.0

Parameter"AppPath"

... NOT found! ...

===========================================================

INSTALLATION FOR FSX:

AppPath="C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X"

Checking version of FSX.EXE:

... Version 10.0.61637.0 (Need at least 10.0.60905.0)

Checking compatibility with installed SimConnect:

Found SimConnect build 60905 (Original)

Found SimConnect build 61259 (Acc/SP2 Oct07)

Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC4 installed in:

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL

... No previous valid version found.

FSX Modules folder created okay!

Okay -- installed FSUIPC4 into "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL"

Looking for the current user's Application Data path:

... found as "C:\Documents and Settings\Daniel1\Application Data"

Now finding \Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG for all users, including this one

Looking in "C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Documents and Settings\basket.aspx_files\Application Data"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Documents and Settings\Daniel1\Application Data"

Found FSX.CFG in "C:\Documents and Settings\Daniel1\Application Data\Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG"

Now checking DLL.XML ...

... There is a previous DLL.XML, checking for FSUIPC4 section.

... FSUIPC4 section already exists but will be replaced.

... FSUIPC4 section of DLL.XML written okay

Now checking for a SimConnect.XML file ...

... No SimConnect.XML file found. This is okay.

Looking in "C:\Documents and Settings\Default User\Application Data"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\Application Data"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Application Data"

No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Documents and Settings\Test1\Application Data"

No FSX.CFG there

Now installing additional files into the Modules folder:

Installed "FSUIPC4 User Guide.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC4 for Advanced Users.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC4 History.pdf" okay

Installed "List of FSX controls.pdf" okay

Installed "GlobalSign Root.exe" okay

Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay

Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay

Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay

FSUIPC4.DLL installed and signature checked out okay!

Deleted GlobalSign Root fix programno longer relevant

===========================================================

All installer tasks completed okay!

Registration offers were declined

*************** End of Install Log ***************

***** FSUIPC4, Version 4.53 by Pete Dowson *********

User Name=""

User Addr=""

FSUIPC4 not user registered

WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired

Running inside FSX (using SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07)

Module base=61000000

Wind smoothing fix is fully installed

DebugStatus=0

109 System time = 25/10/2009 16:46:00

109 FLT UNC path = "C:\Documents and Settings\Daniel1\My Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\"

109 FS UNC path = "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\"

1359 LogOptions=00000000 00000001

1359 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay

12781 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61637.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0)

12781 Initialising SimConnect data requests now

12781 FSUIPC Menu entry added

12937 C:\Documents and Settings\Daniel1\My Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\Clearwater.FLT

12937 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\C172\Cessna172SP.AIR

155375 System time = 25/10/2009 16:48:36, Simulator time = 16:46:15 (21:46Z)

[Pete Dowson]

I have done a total re-install of FSUIPC4.

An install is the same as a "total re-install".

The log still shows something wrong. All three SimConnect versions should be listed:

Found SimConnect build 60905 (Original)

Found SimConnect build 61259 (Acc/SP2 Oct07)

As Ulfb mentioned, have you not obtained a SimConnect log yet? I think we discussed that a long time ago and I said I'd examine it if you emailed it as an attachment.

It is looking as if nothing short of a full FSX reinstall will fix this, but the SimConnect log might help narrow it down still.

Regards

Pete

[karbil]

Pete, Again thanks for the response. Could you please help me create a SimConnect log and tell me exactly where I should place its location? Here is a copy of what I created. Is this even close to being correct?

SimConnect]

level=Verbose

console=No

file=\Modules\SimConnect%01u.Log

file_max_index=9

I have it as a text file in notepad that is labeled as "SimConnect.ini.text". Also, if a SimConnect log is created, where would I find it. BTW, the other writer's log file is the same as mine with only two SimConnects noted and he says his FSX runs fine with FSUIPC4. What gives? Bob K.

[Pete Dowson]

Pete, Again thanks for the response. Could you please help me create a SimConnect log and tell me exactly where I should place its location?

Surely it was very clear in the FSX Help Announcement text? It provides you with most of the file -- you only have to put the path in for the log file -- and it tells you exactly where to save it! I surely shouldn't need to repeat it here?

Look here is what it said. Perhaps you can read it better here than there for some reason?

Create a file containing these lines:

    [SimConnect]
    level=Verbose
    console=No
    file=\Modules\SimConnect%01u.Log
    file_max_index=9

where you need to replace the "" by your particular path for the main FSX folder,

and save this file as Simconnect.ini in your "My Documents\Flight Simulator X files" folder.

Do you see where it clearly tells you where to save it? I have highlighted it for you.

Here is a copy of what I created. Is this even close to being correct?

Let's see:

SimConnect]missing [ before the S

level=Verboseokay

console=Nookay

file=\Modules\SimConnect%01u.Log

... No!!!!! I don't think your FSX path starts with "

file_max_index=9okay

I have it as a text file in notepad that is labeled as "SimConnect.ini.text".

Wrong!

How can you not read anything I write? Look, it says clearly: "save this file as Simconnect.ini"

Also, if a SimConnect log is created, where would I find it.

Oh dear! :-( You seem not to have bothered to read much at all. :-( It tells you that clearly too, look:

The Log will be found, after or even during your FSX session, in the FSX Modules folder.

Look, I am very sorry, but i really do not have the patience to answer any more of these sorts of questions, questions which have all the answers already in the place to which you were referred. It isn't as if it was a lot to read, but you've evidently read hardly any of it. What is the point of me trying to help?

BTW, the other writer's log file is the same as mine with only two SimConnects noted and he says his FSX runs fine with FSUIPC4. What gives?

No idea. I don't have enough information to tell. Something is wrong with your system, something is wrong with his. Yours is evidently more wrong than his.

Anyway, if you are going to have such difficulty just reading and following a few simple lines i think we should draw a line under tihs and call it a day. I recommend you either forget FSUIPC and hope you never need it and that nothing else is badly affected, or do a complete uninstall, delete all three WinSXS SimConnect folders, and start again from scratch. It's probably going to come to that in any case.

Regards

Pete