FSUIPC TOGA assigmnets on PMDG Saitek throttle

[Joolsd]

Hi I am generally new to FSUIPC.

There is a switch on my Saitek throttle I would like to assign a PMDG boeing 737 command to. Specifically the 'Take off and go around'

switchor TOGA for short.

I have tried many things without success. Firstly I check the FS9 commands Crt>SHT>G is set up. I have also looked at the PMDGs own key assignment which is also Crt>SHT>G. I have tried this with both 'AC specific' option clicked and not clicked. This didn't work.

Also I the also the select for FS control. But this is also not working?

Also the Crt>SHT>G is not working when in Fs9. Even though it looks like it is assigned. And the 'magic screw' on the corner of the MCP does activate the TOGA, so the I know it is working within the FS9 environment.

Am I doing something wrong here. :(

I seem to be able to get some commands to work, but struggle with other commands. Seems very difficult getting the buttons to work in a consistent manner.

[Joolsd]

I think I know what the problem is.

The problem is that the PMDG commands are set wrong CTL>SHT>M. But every time I edit it to CTL>SHT G and close it doesn't change, very weird, keeps popping back to what it was.

[pschlute]

Try using the mouse macro function. That should work. I use it to program a number of things on the PMDG 737.

Peter

[Joolsd]

Try using the mouse macro function. That should work. I use it to program a number of things on the PMDG 737.

Peter

I did try and use this. But it looked a bit precarious.

Is there a easy way of reviewing all of your FSUIPC actions?

[pschlute]

Have you actually created a mouse macro for the TOGA button ?

It is very straightforward. Once you have done so, you can assign the macro to your joystick button of choice.

Peter

[Joolsd]

I would like to have another look.

Is there any reason why the screen goes black when launching FSUIPC? This happens quite often. I can only force quit it, using the task manager.

Am I doing something wrong? I can't even cancel it, and it is freezing FS9 :(

Any suggestions would be appreciated. :?:

[pschlute]

That sounds like a video card issue. Try updating you card drivers.

[Joolsd]

That sounds like a video card issue. Try updating you card drivers.

I have refreshed the Nvideoa drivers, but it is still freezing. The problem only started when the FSUIPC was registered.

Is there a way of resetting it?

[pschlute]

I had similar issues , not just with the FSUIPC window, but with other windows open when FS9 was running. This was on a new pc with a clean install of Windows 7.

I solved it by uninstalling the ATI video card drivers, and the ATI driver software. Did a fresh install and updated the drivers. Issue fixed.

If you are running Vista/Win 7 I would also suggest you right click on the FS9 .exe , and in properties: tick "disable visual themes". This will disable the visual themes on the desktop when you run the sim.

[Joolsd]

Interesting you have win7 as well.

Ok will disable visual theme as well.

[Joolsd]

I did this but I don't think it did anything. However I can edit FSUIPC if I am in window mode. It just doesn't like full screen mode for some reason.

Anyway I did a mouse macro an saved it, but I am not quite sure where you are meant to reload it?

thanks

[Joolsd]

Ok the toga mouse macro it just seemed to work after restarting.

I tried assignment on the gear as well. But can only get it working one way.

I must admit, it is a very unstable process. The whole FS gets pretty ugly. Freezing locking up etc.

I am on windows 7. Maybe there is a issue or something with this?

[Pete Dowson]

I am on windows 7. Maybe there is a issue or something with this?

I use Windows 7 64-bit on three separate systems with FSX and many add-ons, and I would say it is the most stable setup I've ever had for FS. If your experience is the opposite I can only think there's some problems with your installation, drivers or hardware.

Regards

Pete

[Joolsd]

I use Windows 7 64-bit on three separate systems with FSX and many add-ons, and I would say it is the most stable setup I've ever had for FS. If your experience is the opposite I can only think there's some problems with your installation, drivers or hardware.

Regards

Pete

It's all a brand new system, I would expect some teething problems.

I have a Nvidea Gforces GTX 480. I have updated the drives. I installed the FSUIPC as admin, with the best compatibility set. Or at least do I think I have.

So I don't know at this stage. I've not had this much trouble before. On the old xp system, everything just worked. It might be the PMDG add-ons haven't installed very well.

It fly's well and doesn't crash once your doing a flight. Apart from a black mouse issue. And the frames are great.

[Pete Dowson]

I have a Nvidea Gforces GTX 480.

Wow! Lucky you! I'm thinking of upgrading from my GTX 285.

I installed the FSUIPC as admin, with the best compatibility set.

Don't do anything like that. The Installer runs with enough privileges in any case -- all installers do. You should certainly not need to set any compatibility modes whatsoever nor run FS in administrator modes. Maybe you've been trying too many weird settings. It will run well straightforwardly. But take care not to put all of the sliders in FSX full right. You can easily overload even with a fast system. Mine is a watercooled i7-750 overclocked to 4.5 GHz and using 2000 MHz overclocked memory, and even that won't run FSX flat out.

It fly's well and doesn't crash once your doing a flight. Apart from a black mouse issue. And the frames are great.

Do NOT work on frame rates. If you allow FSX to gallop away with huge frame rates you are more likely to run into trouble. Frame rates aren't as important as smoothness of simulation. I limit mine to 30 fps -- using an external frame rate limiter, not FSX's internal one.

There are a lot of improvements you can make to FSX graphics and performance, especially with an i7 system and a GTX285 or 480 video card. Take a look at some of the threads on ASVSIM's FSX forum, especially those by Jesus Bojote. There's a pinned essay by him near or at the top which is very educational.

Regards

Pete

[Joolsd]

Just to add, I have FSUIPC 3.98a installed. I am only using FS9. I don't have fsx yet.

When I say high frames I set mine to 28, wheres before I only kept it on 20. Even with a better system I am tight with the frames.

There are a lot of improvements you can make to FSX graphics and performance, especially with an i7 system and a GTX285 or 480 video card. Take a look at some of the threads on ASVSIM's FSX forum, especially those by Jesus Bojote. There's a pinned essay by him near or at the top which is very educational.

ok cool, that sounds like a plan.

[Pete Dowson]

Just to add, I have FSUIPC 3.98a installed. I am only using FS9. I don't have fsx yet.

You have instability in FS9? Wow, that's not been heard of for many years. The stability of FS9 is why many stick to it and don't move on to FSX.

A GTX480 is a bit wasted on FS9, isn't it?

When I say high frames I set mine to 28, wheres before I only kept it on 20. Even with a better system I am tight with the frames.

You don't need to worry about frame rates on FS9 unless you have a slow system -- and with a GTX 480 I wouldn't have thought you would have. After all the first priority is the fast processor.

ok cool, that sounds like a plan.

No, it really isn't, all that stuff is only for FSX.

Pete

[Joolsd]

You have instability in FS9? Wow, that's not been heard of for many years. The stability of FS9 is why many stick to it and don't move on to FSX.

In full screen mode FSUIPC freezes. When in windowed mode, I can edit it. The simulation in itself seems to be fine.

A GTX480 is a bit wasted on FS9, isn't it?

I will get FSX, I have stuck with FS9 because it has run fine in the past. I have only had this PC for a couple of weeks. So I it might take a bit of tweaking.

I have had 3 systems in the past, and it has ran with no trouble. Since buying a saitek, throttle and yoke, the need for FSUIPC has become more of an interest. I can get the PTT to work with squawk box, throught the fsuipc. Gears up and down, on one of the Saitek levers. The TOGA switch after a lot of struggling now seems to work, using the mouse macro mentioned before.

I am waiting for the new PMDG 737X to come out. I wouldn't really know which aircraft to fly with FSX, at the moment. The scenery looks amazing, in FSX.

[Pete Dowson]

In full screen mode FSUIPC freezes. When in windowed mode, I can edit it.

You mean the FSUIPC options screen, from the menu? That's most definitely a video driver problem, a clash with the way FS drives the video in full screen mode. The FSUIPC options are a normal, standard everyday Windows dialogue, same as you see in any Windows program. They aren't normally used in full screen mode, but they should work perfectly, and do with most video cards and drivers -- when they don't it is always an incompatibility in the driver. There's nothing I can do about it because it happens in Windows or driver code, not in my code. In fact all FSUIPC has done is called a standard Windows API to ask it to draw the dialogue, which is a normal resource.

Regards

Pete

[Joolsd]

That's most definitely a video driver problem

Ok I guess it's time to look at the Nvidea forums. Thanks for your advice.

[Pete Dowson]

Ok I guess it's time to look at the Nvidea forums. Thanks for your advice.

You'll find a huge range of nVidia drivers on http://www.guru3d.com. That's where I go. The latest ones aren't always the greatest. Some folks actually stuck to, or went back to, 182.50, finding those much more reliable and with good performance than later ones. I did too for a while, but the 197.45 ones I use now seem good on a win7 64-bit system. I see 197.57 is out as Beta.

I see, however, that you don't yet have a lot of choice with the GTX 480. Y0u have to use 197.75 (the 470/480 equivalent of 197.55), or 197.41, the original ones for the GTX 470 and 480.

Regards

Pete

[Joolsd]

You'll find a huge range of nVidia drivers on http://www.guru3d.com.

Thank you very much. I will look into this.

regards

Julian

[Joolsd]

Also similar problem to mine raised here.

http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t42900.html