StefanSchaefer Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Hi Pete! Switching to "public" mode ... It still crashes. Here what you requested: Name der fehlerhaften Anwendung: fsx.exe, Version: 10.0.61637.0, Zeitstempel: 0x46fadb14Name des fehlerhaften Moduls: FSUIPC4.dll, Version: 4.9.2.1, Zeitstempel: 0x52527a5cAusnahmecode: 0xc0000005Fehleroffset: 0x0001caf2ID des fehlerhaften Prozesses: 0x1b78Startzeit der fehlerhaften Anwendung: 0x01cec345c40ebaa2Pfad der fehlerhaften Anwendung: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\fsx.exePfad des fehlerhaften Moduls: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.dllBerichtskennung: 188b24bc-2f39-11e3-bf43-c86000a44c87Vollständiger Name des fehlerhaften Pakets:Anwendungs-ID, die relativ zum fehlerhaften Paket ist: Standing by for whatever you request. Cheers and THX! Stefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Hi Stefan, It still crashes. Name des fehlerhaften Moduls: FSUIPC4.dll, Version: 4.9.2.1, Zeitstempel: 0x52527a5cAusnahmecode: 0xc0000005Fehleroffset: 0x0001caf2 This is the entry point ("DLLStart") from SimConnect. So I believe what you are seeing is not specifically anything to do with Win8.1 but just the same SimConnect bug that affects some folks, where SimConnect's trust checking mechanism runs behind the execution part and the latter jumps into the start place which is not yet actually loaded. Please see the FAQ subforum thread entitled fsx fails to run after fsuipc4 first installed. The title of that turned out to be a bit misleading. The problem is a timing issue and was accepted by Microsoft as a bug right since the original RTM release of FSX. They managed to reduce its frequency in SP1 and SP2 but were still trying to locate the thing when they got closed down. Oddly, it affects some folks’ systems on almost every release, but most others never. If I could actually reproduce it even on one of my 6 FSX systems I might have a chance to devise a work-around, but it has never even happened once here – just as it hasn’t on many other’s systems. The only answers I have ever come up with are all on the thread. However, If this problem is consistent on your system, perhaps I can use you to experiment with small changes in the start-up part (DLLMain). I can't do anything with DLLStart because the crash is actually in SimConnect's call to that routine. but DLLMain should be getting called by Windows' DLL loader before that.As a start, I've emailed you a little updated version. See if it helps at all -- just a 1 second "sleep" in the DLLMain routine, to try to allow SimConnect to "catch up". If no joy I'll try 10 seconds (ugh) and if that helps, wind it down again. If delays here make no difference I can't really see anything else I can do at all ...RegardsPete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanSchaefer Posted October 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Hi Pete! This regentry was the culprit! [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers]"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Games\\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\\fsx.exe"="$~ IgnoreFreeLibrary<FSUIPC4.dll> WIN7RTM" Removed it and we are running fine again. (I have seen there is a similar hint somewhere else, but other entry!) Cheers! Stefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Hi Pete! This regentry was the culprit! [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers] "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Games\\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\\fsx.exe"="$~ IgnoreFreeLibrary<FSUIPC4.dll> WIN7RTM" Removed it and we are running fine again. (I have seen there is a similar hint somewhere else, but other entry!) Hmm. Isn't there something like that in that FAQ thread? I wonder how it gets there? Maybe I should make the Installer remove that, if it is there? Thanks for solving it, at least in your specific instance. I don't know if that applies to many or most. Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Hmm. Isn't there something like that in that FAQ thread? There's one other thread which mentions something similar as a solution: http://forum.simflight.com/topic/73502-fsuipc-access-violation/ The entry there is: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers delete the key "C:\\Games\\FSX\\fsx.exe"="$~ RUNASADMIN IgnoreFreeLibrary<FSUIPC4.dll>" so it seems pretty similar -- and it was also with Windows 8. It was written up in the FAQ subforum as thread "Possible solution for FSUIPC access violation". Sorry, I should really have remembered that one. I've now made the Installer delete any entries in that Registry Key mentioning FSUIPC. There shouldn't be any there in any case. Version 4.921f of the Installer is now up. Thanks again, Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanSchaefer Posted October 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 No problem Pete! We are both developers and know, how things may go ... ;-) We have solved it. That counts! Cheers! Stefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rservice Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Hi Pete, I'm having a problem with my joy sticks disconnecting. Both the Logitech and the Mad Catz disconnect intermittently. I'm using Windows 8. It seems to happen more often with the PMDG 777. Any help appreciated Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian P Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Sounds like the old USB power problem... Are they both USB sticks and have you turned off power saving in your USB settings? Ian P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rservice Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 I've tried turning off the p[ower saving but that did'nt help. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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