dennyrambow Posted January 24, 2015 Report Posted January 24, 2015 Hi, I loaded FSUIPC latest version 4.938d for testing the FSFlyingSchool 2015 Demo. My Sim was working very well with FTX Global, Vector, OpenLC Europe and FS Global Ultimate. When I load a flight at daytime all is fine. But: When I load a flight at nighttime P3D says: FATAL ERROR and crashes to desktop. Removing the modules folder or just removing the FSUIPC_Loader.dll helps to prevent CTD --> it's an issue of FSUIPC. Windows event log doesn't help as there is no helpful information listed... Anyone who can please help me? A lot of Add Ons will use FSUIPC and I need also to fly @ night. Thanks a lot in advance. Denny
Pete Dowson Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 Removing the modules folder or just removing the FSUIPC_Loader.dll helps to prevent CTD --> it's an issue of FSUIPC. Windows event log doesn't help as there is no helpful information listed... Do NOT use the FSUIPC_Loader! Why on Earth are you using it? Delete it and re-run the FSUIPC Installer. As I'm pretty sure the documentation states, the Loader is only to get over a SimConnect trust-checking timing bug which was prevalent in FSX RTM and SP1 and hardly occurred later in SP2 and ACC. I don't think P3D even operates the trust checking system which was in error! As for difference between night and day, FSUIPC cannot possibly care or be affected by such a difference. The problem will be something in the scenery, lights or textures which are different at night. The likely reason it seems okay without FSUIPC actually running is going to be because of minor differences in the way the PCs memory is being used, so different things get corrupted by bad scenery files. These sorts of errors are notably difficult to track down. You'd need to do it by a process of elimination -- geographically and scenery layer-wise. [LATER] As well as removing the loader, and re-running the installer, please try version 4.938e first -- there's some other changes. I don't think any will affect this, but you never know, especially with odd things affecting memory locations. Pete
dennyrambow Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Posted January 25, 2015 Hi Pete, I appreciate your help. Thank you. I deleted modules folder - installed FSUIPC 4.938e - same issue. Then I deactivated the lights in FTX Global - same issue Then I deactivated ALL FTX (Global Base, Vector, Europe OpenLC) and FS Global in the scenery config - same issue I also tried with default P3D settings. Same thing - load a flight at daytime - all good - then change to night time or load a nighttime flight: CTD I am suffering^^ Anything else I could try? Best regards!!!! Denny - Wiesbaden, Germany Using Prepar3D V2.4 | FS Global Ultimate | FTX Global Base | FTX Global Vector | FTX OpenLC Europe System: Intel Xeon CPU E3-1231 v3 @ 3,40 GHz | 8 GB DDR3-1600 RAM | 2x Zotac GTX970 4GB (SLI) | Gigabyte GA-Z97MX Mainboard | Samsung MX-100 SSD 256 GB + 1TB WD HDD | Aerocool DS Cube white | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 DE | 347.25 WHQL drivers | Logitech Extreme 3D
Pete Dowson Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 Anything else I could try? It sounds like there must be some sort of corruption in the other (maybe default) sceneries or textures. Are you sure there's no error information in the Wideows Event Viewer? Please, anyway, show me the FSUIPC4.LOG file. Maybe that will show where it's getting to, though as I said FSUIPC cares not a whit about night and day and wouldn't even be aware of any difference. Just in case, try the earlier version of FSUIPC,FSUIPC4938c. But show me the Log and any crash details first, please. If that also fails I can't help thinking you need to try a re-install of P3D. You might want to wait till 2.5 because that will need a complete new install in any case. It isn't far off now! BTW I'm still working on some changes, and some will affect P3D for sure, so look out for another version too, later .... Pete
dennyrambow Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Posted January 25, 2015 !!!! SOLVED !!!! Later I had the idea to install a previous version of FSUIPC: 4.937 - I still had that under my Sim Files from last year. This version is working with all FTX Versions and my configuration!!!! What's wrong with the new version? Thank you Peter for helping me! Denny
dennyrambow Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Posted January 25, 2015 Oh we posted the same time... I'll try the version 4.938c - and then I'll look also for the LOG file.
Pete Dowson Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 Oh we posted the same time... I'll try the version 4.938c - and then I'll look also for the LOG file. I'll need the log, and any Event Viewer details, for your test with 4.938e, not with one which works! Please? Pete
dennyrambow Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Posted January 25, 2015 Yes understood. I'll send you event viewer and log details for version 4.938e. I cannot find a download link for 4.938c to try it out. There is the link on schiratti that says 4.938c but when you click on it you get the latest version 4.938e. You have a link?
Pete Dowson Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 Yes understood. I'll send you event viewer and log details for version 4.938e. I cannot find a download link for 4.938c to try it out. There is the link on schiratti that says 4.938c but when you click on it you get the latest version 4.938e. You have a link? It was in the message where I asked you to try it!!! Pete
Pete Dowson Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 I've just released 4.938f. Maybe try that too, please? I'm very VERY puzzled by this night/day difference. It makes no sense to me. I've checked all these recent versions here and the only differences are whether wind smoothing is hooked or not -- that's the change in 4.938f Maybe when you update to 2.5, it being a complete re-install in any case, the problem will fix itself. Pete
dennyrambow Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Posted January 25, 2015 HI Pete, I finished testing and prepared two log files for you: 1. I loaded a dayflight an changed to nightflight 2. I loaded directly a nightflight I saved the events viewer error details as a event log to be openend with the event viewer. Also the error in the even viewer said sometning about a folder deep inside of the appdate. There was a report (a *.wer file) inside. I added this folder too. Hopefully this helps you. BUT: As a newbie I relly don't know how to attach the files here... I'll try to get you a dropbox link. Or is there another way? Now I will continue trying the other versions 4.938c and your new one 4.938f. Cheers!!!
dennyrambow Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Posted January 25, 2015 Finally I can say: Version 4.938c and the new version 4.938f ARE BOTH WORKING fine!!! I am happy! Thanks Pete!!!! Good man!!!
Pete Dowson Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 Finally I can say: Version 4.938c and the new version 4.938f ARE BOTH WORKING fine!!! I am happy! Thanks Pete!!!! Good man!!! Good! But I'm at a loss to know why this was related to the Wind Smoothing change! Ah well, all's well that ... you know the rest! ;-) Pete
Pete Dowson Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 BUT: As a newbie I relly don't know how to attach the files here... I'll try to get you a dropbox link. Or is there another way? Best to just paste the text into a message. You can use the <> button above the edit area to enclose them. This works best for text files and saves the uploading / downloading process. Got them anyway. Thanks! [LATER] ... except I don't know how to open the "evtx" and "wer" files you included! :-( Pete
dennyrambow Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Posted January 26, 2015 Well in my Windows 7 I just double click the evtx and the event viewer opens... you can also try to open the evtx file through the event viewer manually. There must be something like "open saved event log" or similar. I can't have a loook right now. But will check later... For the *.wer file I just opened it in "Editor". Cheers.
Pete Dowson Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 Well in my Windows 7 I just double click the evtx and the event viewer opens. Strange it isn't so associated here. I'll associate it next time I see one. For the *.wer file I just opened it in "Editor". Ah, so ".wer" is synonym for ".txt"? How odd. Thanks, Pete
dennyrambow Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Posted January 26, 2015 lol yes strange - everytime I can't open a file I first try with notepad / editor... I tried: If you open up the vent viewer - on the right side under "ACTIONS" you can see "OPEN SAVED LOG"... denny
Comito999 Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 Hi Pete, Hi Dennyrambow ! You can't know how happy I was when i found this topic ! I just bought P3D V2.4.1 and after installation of Ivap i had the same issue than Denny. I tried a lot of times to uninstall and reinstall one by one all of my add-ons and confirrmes that the problem comes from FSUIPC, v4.938. I started to loose hope, and trying last reseach on the internet but i was alone in this situation ... So i found this topic and hope came back ! But i am a frecnh student and my english is not as good as yours ... So i didn't understand everything in you explaination :( I would be very grateful if you would explain me again what i have to do to solve this problem ... I work on W8.1 with P3D V2.4.1 and want to install a lot of add-on :p Thank you for your amazing work Pete, And i thank you in advance to help me ! Best regards, Côme.
Pete Dowson Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 I would be very grateful if you would explain me again what i have to do to solve this problem ... Download and run the FSUIPC 4.838f installer. Pete
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