Logitech G940 throttle 2 issue

[ec155mech]

Hey Pete,

 

after changing over to P3D I seem to have issues with my number 2 throttle on my G940, the movement registers but the values are irratic and jumpy,

 

any thoughts on this issue ?

 

I am running the latest version of FSUIPC and WideFS, Win 10 and newest version of P3D,

 

thanks

[Pete Dowson]

after changing over to P3D I seem to have issues with my number 2 throttle on my G940, the movement registers but the values are irratic and jumpy,

 

any thoughts on this issue ?

 

No, there's no difference whatsoever in FSUIPC's treatment of axes between FSX and P3D. 

 

Did you copy over your FSUIPC4.INI file, so you had the same settings?

 

You provide no information I'm afraid. Are you assigning in FSUIPC or P3D? If in FSUIPC have you disabled controllers in P3D? Are you calibrating in FSUIPC? Is FSUIPC anything actually to do with it?

 

 

I am running the latest version of FSUIPC and WideFS, Win 10 and newest version of P3D,

 

And what IS the latest version which you have installed They have numbers. Folks often say "latest" and mean "the last one I noticed". The current one, the supported version, is 4.944a.

 

The version of FSX or P3D is not relevant to FSUIPC's axis and calibration support.

 

Pete

[ec155mech]

I am running 4.944a and I did not copy the INI as this is a completly new build.

 

I am not aware how I can disable controllers in P3D so maybe I can learn something as well ?

 

it is entirely possible that this is UI issues and I do appreciate any assistance provided.

 

thanks in advance Pete :)

[Thomas Richter]

Hi,

 

just as in FSX press e.g. CTRL+K key that disables/ enables Controller or go to menu->Options->Settings->Controls and disable the Box 'Enable Controller(s)'.

[ec155mech]

I tried that now and there is no change

[ec155mech]

 here is a link to the video of the input behavior

https://youtu.be/h4VqA

 

and here are my settings

 

[General]
UpdatedByVersion=4944a
History=BSTRLVQ9GYIEFLLKE0UFJ
InitDelayDevicesToo=No
NewInterceptTextMenu=No
UseSystemTime=No
UseMidMouseBtn=Yes
MouseWheelMove=No
MouseWheelTrim=No
MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1
JoystickTimeout=20
PollGFTQ6=Yes
BlankDisplays=No
FixControlAccel=No
FixMachSpeedBug=No
DeleteVehiclesForAES=Yes
AutoScanDevices=Yes
VisibilityOptions=No
OneCloudLayer=No
CloudTurbulence=No
CloudIcing=No
GenerateCirrus=No
SuppressCloudTurbulence=No
MaxIce=-4
MinIce=-4
UpperWindGusts=No
SuppressWindTurbulence=No
SuppressWindVariance=No
WindTurbulence=No
TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0
TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40
SuppressAllGusts=No
MaxSurfaceWind=0
WindLimitLevel=200
WindDiscardLevel=400
WindAjustAltitude=No
WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000
SmoothBySimTime=No
WindSmoothing=No
WindSmoothness=2
WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes
PressureSmoothness=0
TemperatureSmoothness=0
DisconnTrimForAP=No
ZeroElevForAPAlt=No
ThrottleSyncAll=No
WhiteMessages=No
ShowPMcontrols=No
SpoilerIncrement=512
MagicBattery=No
RudderSpikeRemoval=No
ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No
AileronSpikeRemoval=No
ReversedElevatorTrim=No
ClockSync=No
ClockSyncMins=5
ClearWeatherDynamics=No
OwnWeatherChanges=No
TimeForSelect=4
LoadFlightMenu=No
LoadPlanMenu=No
PauseAfterCrash=No
BrakeReleaseThreshold=75
SaveDataWithFlights=No
ZapSound=firework
ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring
UseProfiles=Yes
EnableMouseLook=No
DelayedMouseLookZoom=No
AxesWrongRange=No
TCASid=Flight
TCASrange=40
AxisCalibration=No
DirectAxesToCalibs=No
ShowMultilineWindow=Yes
SuppressSingleline=No
SuppressMultilineFS=No
AxisIntercepts=No
DontResetAxes=No
InitDelay=0
GetNearestAirports=No
OOMcheck=Yes
WeatherReadFactor=2
WeatherRewriteSeconds=1
CustomWeatherModify=No
SimConnectStallTime=1
InitialStallTime=10
NormalStallTime=1
LuaRerunDelay=66
OOMcheckInterval=10
Console=No
FSVersionUsed="Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v2",2.5.12946.0
SimConnectUsed=2.5.0.0

 

[JoyNames]
AutoAssignLetters=No
0=Logitech G940 Joystick
0.GUID={EB920880-4FD6-11E5-8003-444553540000}
1=Logitech G940 Pedals
1.GUID={EB920880-4FD6-11E5-8004-444553540000}
2=Logitech G940 Throttle
2.GUID={EB920880-4FD6-11E5-8005-444553540000}

 

[buttons]
ButtonRepeat=20,10
PollInterval=25
2=P2,7,C65759,0
3=P2,11,C65758,0
4=P2,8,C65853,0
5=P2,9,C65752,0
6=P0,36,C65615,0
7=P0,32,C65608,0
8=P2,0,C65861,0
9=P0,3,C65827,0
10=P2,36,C65615,0
11=P2,32,C65607,0
12=P2,4,K71,8

 

[AutoSave]
Next=1
Interval=60
Files=10
SaveOnGround=No
AutoSaveEnabled=No

 

[GPSout]
GPSoutEnabled=No

 

[GPSout2]
GPSoutEnabled=No

 

[WideServer]
WideFSenabled=Yes
AdvertiseService=1
Port=8002
Port2=9002

 

[sounds]
Path=E:\P3D\Sound\
Device1=Primary Sound Driver
Device2=Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Device3=ASUS VN247-4 (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)
Device4=Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)

 

[Axes]
PollInterval=10
RangeRepeatRate=10
0=0X,256,D,1,0,0,0
1=0Y,256,D,2,0,0,0
2=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0
3=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0
4=1R,256,D,3,0,0,0
5=2Y,256,D,9,0,0,0
6=2Z,256,D,10,0,0,0

 

[Profile.BE58]
1=Beech Baron 58

 

[buttons.BE58]
0=P2,4,C65570,0
1=P2,8,C65853,0
2=P2,9,C65752,0
3=P2,7,C65759,0
4=P2,11,C65758,0
5=P2,0,C66695,0
6=P0,36,C65616,0
7=P0,32,C65608,0
8=P0,3,K65,8
9=P0,4,K83,8

 

[JoystickCalibration]
AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes
ExcludeThrottleSet=No
ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes
ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes
SepRevsJetsOnly=No
ApplyHeloTrim=No
UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No
FlapsSetControl=0
FlapDetents=No
ReverserControl=66292
Reverser1Control=66422
Reverser2Control=66425
Reverser3Control=66428
Reverser4Control=66431
MaxThrottleForReverser=256
AileronTrimControl=66731
RudderTrimControl=66732
CowlFlaps1Control=66162
CowlFlaps2Control=66163
CowlFlaps3Control=66164
CowlFlaps4Control=66165
SteeringTillerControl=0
MaxSteerSpeed=60
Aileron=-16384,32,512,16383
Elevator=-16384,-512,512,16160
Rudder=-16384,0,512,16383
Throttle1=-16143,-512,512,16383/32
Throttle2=-8192,596,596,745/32

 

[Axes.BE58]
RangeRepeatRate=10
0=2Y,256,D,9,0,0,0
1=2Z,256,D,10,0,0,0

 

[JoystickCalibration.BE58]
AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes
ExcludeThrottleSet=No
ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes
ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes
SepRevsJetsOnly=No
ApplyHeloTrim=No
UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No
FlapsSetControl=0
FlapDetents=No
ReverserControl=66292
Reverser1Control=66422
Reverser2Control=66425
Reverser3Control=66428
Reverser4Control=66431
MaxThrottleForReverser=256
AileronTrimControl=66731
RudderTrimControl=66732
CowlFlaps1Control=66162
CowlFlaps2Control=66163
CowlFlaps3Control=66164
CowlFlaps4Control=66165
SteeringTillerControl=0
MaxSteerSpeed=60
Throttle1=-16143,-512,512,16383/32
Throttle2=-7745,-512,512,1340/40
Aileron=-16380,0,512,16380
Elevator=-16383,0,512,16383
Rudder=-16383,0,512,16383
Throttle=-16380,16380

 

[Profile.g1000]
1=Mooney Acclaim With G1000

 

[Axes.g1000]
RangeRepeatRate=10
0=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0
1=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0
2=2Y,256,D,9,0,0,0

 

[JoystickCalibration.g1000]
AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes
ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes
ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes
ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes
SepRevsJetsOnly=No
ApplyHeloTrim=No
UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No
FlapsSetControl=0
FlapDetents=No
ReverserControl=66292
Reverser1Control=66422
Reverser2Control=66425
Reverser3Control=66428
Reverser4Control=66431
MaxThrottleForReverser=256
AileronTrimControl=66731
RudderTrimControl=66732
CowlFlaps1Control=66162
CowlFlaps2Control=66163
CowlFlaps3Control=66164
CowlFlaps4Control=66165
SteeringTillerControl=0
MaxSteerSpeed=60
Aileron=-16383,0,512,16383
Elevator=-16383,0,512,16383
Rudder=-16383,0,512,16383
Throttle=-16380,16380
LeftBrake=-16384,16256
RightBrake=-16384,16383
Throttle1=-16143,-512,512,16146/32
ElevatorTrim=-16380,-512,512,16380

WWvv0E

[Pete Dowson]

Looking at your settings you've made a bit of a hash calibrating Throttle 2. Compare the two entries:

 

Throttle1=-16143,-512,512,16383/32
Throttle2=-8192,596,596,745/32

 

If the full range of values supplied by Throttle2 is only -8192 to +745, as you've calibrated here, then there's either something seriously wrong with that part of the unit, or you've got some driver installation or Windows calibration issues. For modern USB axes the normal range is -16384 to +16383, and whilst I always recommend that you leave a region at either extreme free, to allow for small variations such as humidity, temperative, voltage changes, your numbers are very bad.

 

However, nothing here wouild explain "erratic and jumpy" if what you mean by that is that they go back and forth, or "jitter". If that is the case then you either have faulty hardware or a very dirty device.

 

You have different calibrations in profile "be56" which you use with the Baron:

 

Throttle1=-16143,-512,512,16383/32
Throttle2=-7745,-512,512,1340/40
Throttle=-16380,16380

 

There you have a conflict in any case, with the generic all-engine Throttle calibrated as well as two separate throttles. You should reset that.

 

Here your Throttle 2 calibration is just as bad -- -7745 to +1340. Worse, you appear to have enabled the "Filter", which is a desperate measure indeeed, especially if applied to one throttle and not both as they will behave asymmetrically.

 

I see you also have a profile called "g1000"., used with the Mooney. There you don't have throttle 2 assigned, but:

 

Throttle=-16380,16380
Throttle1=-16143,-512,512,16146/32

 

again you have the generic throttle calibrated as well as the seperate throttle1. Reset that.

 

Pete