GoneMissed Posted March 1, 2017 Report Posted March 1, 2017 G'day Pete, I'm pretty new to FSUIPC and have finally got my head around it, except for the life of me cannot figure out an issue with my rudder pedal toe brakes. The brakes are somehow triggered without my feet even on the pedals, and strangely when I kick a bit of rudder to one side the aeroplane happily moves until I return to neutral rudder position. It is if somehow my rudder and toe brake axis are conflicting. Below are the relevant details: [General] UpdatedByVersion=4962 [Axes] PollInterval=10 RangeRepeatRate=10 0=0Z,256,D,4,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle }- 1=0R,256,D,36,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: SteeringTiller }- 2=2X,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 3=2Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- 4=3X,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 5=3Y,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 6=3Z,256,D,3,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Rudder }- Please let me know if there's anything else you need. Cheers, Joe.
ammarmalhas Posted March 1, 2017 Report Posted March 1, 2017 I remember that you can try to tick the Reverse box in the toe brake section of FSUIPC, seems your brakes are working in reverse (ON when not pressed). Hope this helps.
GoneMissed Posted March 1, 2017 Author Report Posted March 1, 2017 G'day ammarmalhas, I do indeed have the Reverse box ticked as I recall seeing this mentioned elsewhere, cheers.
Pete Dowson Posted March 1, 2017 Report Posted March 1, 2017 4 hours ago, GoneMissed said: The brakes are somehow triggered without my feet even on the pedals, and strangely when I kick a bit of rudder to one side the aeroplane happily moves until I return to neutral rudder position. Most toe brake levers are reversed. In other words, unless you REVErse them back before calibrating, they will be fully on until depressed and fully off only when pressed fully. Just check the REV button when calibrating. You must re-calibrate AFTER doing this. 41 minutes ago, GoneMissed said: I do indeed have the Reverse box ticked as I recall seeing this mentioned elsewhere, cheers. Well, as you didn't show the calibration lines from your INI file, only the axis assignments, I can't check. But if you've calibrated them correctly with REV checked and they are still operating in reverse, then maybe you have unusual toe brakes which actually operate the right way, so then you'd need to uncheck REV and calibrate again. Alternatively you may also have axes assigned in FS/P3D -- you should diasable controllers there is assigning in FSUIPC. Pete
GoneMissed Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Posted March 2, 2017 17 hours ago, Pete Dowson said: Most toe brake levers are reversed. In other words, unless you REVErse them back before calibrating, they will be fully on until depressed and fully off only when pressed fully. Just check the REV button when calibrating. You must re-calibrate AFTER doing this. Well, as you didn't show the calibration lines from your INI file, only the axis assignments, I can't check. But if you've calibrated them correctly with REV checked and they are still operating in reverse, then maybe you have unusual toe brakes which actually operate the right way, so then you'd need to uncheck REV and calibrate again. Alternatively you may also have axes assigned in FS/P3D -- you should diasable controllers there is assigning in FSUIPC. Pete Hi Pete, Thanks for getting back to me. Here are the calibration lines: [JoystickCalibration] AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16159,0,512,15935 SlopeAileron=3 Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380 Rudder=-16384,0,16253,16253 Throttle=-16384,16383 LeftBrake=-16380,16380/16 RightBrake=-16380,16380/16 SlopeElevator=2 SlopeRudder=1 SteeringTiller=-16384,0,512,16383 I've tried what you said and calibrated/recalibrated with reverse checked and unchecked, I am not sure what is going on. Joe.
Pete Dowson Posted March 2, 2017 Report Posted March 2, 2017 4 hours ago, GoneMissed said: LeftBrake=-16380,16380/16 RightBrake=-16380,16380/16 Apart from the /16 (REV) those are just the defaults. You haven't actually calibrated the brakes. I have found you ALWAYS need more space at the released postion to ensure that the brakes are off even when using the rudder. There are numbered steps to good calibration given in the FSUIPC user guide. I suggest you follow them. Also your Rudder calibration is really wrong: 4 hours ago, GoneMissed said: Rudder=-16384,0,16253,16253 That says one side you have full movement from -16384 to 0. But then the central area, which does nothing, goes from 0 all the way to 16253, which is your calibrated maximum deflection as well! So you only have rudder operation on one side, not the other! If you are actually managing to use a rudder set this strange way then it simply must mean you also have it assigned in the Sim, which could also easily explain your problem with the toe brakes. Go and actually cvheck that controllers are DISABLED in the sim! Then re-calibrate all your assigned axes properly, following the guidelines. Pete
GoneMissed Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Posted March 2, 2017 Hi Pete, I must admit that I did read the instructions in haste. I thought I had set the brakes but given the amount of times I have gone back in there trying to work out the problem, I guess it is no surpise they are at their default figures. As for the two issues at hand... The brakes - sorted now. My issue is that in my haste of reading the manual I missed a key sentence: "10. The other option is Rev. If you check that, FSUIPC4 reverses the axis completely, just before supplying the calibrated value to FS." This was my problem. I was calibrating my brakes, and selected Reverse after, not before. Egg on face. As for the rudder, I'm not sure how I ended up with those quirky values. With my toe-brake embarassment fresh in mind, I went through and armed with the User Guide, set them up again. All appears to be working, I am not sure why I didn't notice any anomolies earlier but all seems to be working well. To confirm, I never had controllers enabled in P3D. I've pasted my values again, let me know if anything leaps of the page. Pete, thank you for your patience and I apologise for my hastiness. Your advice is kindly appreciaed. I owe you a few beers mate. Cheers. [JoystickCalibration] AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16287,-257,-64,15839 SlopeAileron=3 Elevator=-9895,5184,6016,16223 Rudder=-16253,-262,-131,16253 Throttle=-16384,16383 LeftBrake=6061,16384/16 RightBrake=6087,16319/16 SteeringTiller=-16384,0,512,16383
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