72VirginExpress Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) Hi Pete - My issue is similar to what Dawgfan posted earlier - Such that FSUIPC recognizes the Throttle but not the stick. I can map assignment (throttle set) to the throttle (which I have as locked together - i.e. not dual throttles). I have tried to get the stick to register by changing hubs for the USB to no avail. I have rebooted...nada. I ensured no previous version of FSUIPC4 were existing - since I have wiped P3dv3 off - and all worked well there. The following is from the modules folder: FSUIPC5 Key is provided WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired 0 System time = 03/06/2017 22:04:35 0 FLT path = "C:\Users\greg\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Files\" 0 ------ Module Version Check ------ 0 acontain.dll: 4.0.23.21468 0 api.dll: 4.0.23.21468 0 controls.dll: 4.0.23.21468 0 fs-traffic.dll: 4.0.23.21468 0 G3D.dll: 4.0.23.21468 0 language.dll: 4.0.23.21468 0 sim1.dll: 4.0.23.21468 0 visualfx.dll: 4.0.23.21468 0 weather.dll: 4.0.23.21468 0 window.dll: 4.0.23.21468 0 ---------------------------------- 15 FS path = "E:\Prepar3dv4\" 125 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan ----------------------- 125 Product= Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Throttle 125 Manufacturer= Madcatz 125 Serial Number= G0018927 125 Vendor=0738, Product=A215 (Version 0.119) 125 GUIDs returned for product: VID_0738&PID_A215: 125 GUID= {8FD3DE00-3EE1-11E7-8002-444553540000} 125 Details: Btns=35, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R255,U255,V255,X1023,Y1023,Z255 125 Product= Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Stick <------------SEE THE STICK SHOWS 125 Manufacturer= Madcatz 125 Serial Number= G0017189 125 Vendor=0738, Product=2215 (Version 0.87) 125 GUIDs returned for product: VID_0738&PID_2215: 125 GUID= {8FD58BB0-3EE1-11E7-8005-444553540000} 125 Details: Btns=17, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R0,U0,V4095,X65535,Y65535,Z0 125 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 140 Device acquired for use: 140 Joystick ID = 0 (Registry okay) 140 0=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Throttle 140 0.GUID={8FD3DE00-3EE1-11E7-8002-444553540000} 140 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 140 LogOptions=00000000 00000001 140 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 140 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 140 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 2265 Running in "Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v4", Version: 4.0.23.21468 (SimConnect: 4.0.0.0) 2265 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 2265 FSUIPC Menu entry added 2265 ... Using Prepar3D with Academic License 2265 C:\Users\greg\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Files\F-14 Tomcat at CYYJ.fxml 2265 E:\Prepar3dv4\SimObjects\Airplanes\Grumman_F14D\F14D.air 227734 User Aircraft ID 2 supplied, now being used 227781 Aircraft loaded: running normally now ... 228062 System time = 03/06/2017 22:08:23, Simulator time = 14:00:02 (21:00Z) 228078 Aircraft="F-14D Tomcat 163900" 235047 Starting everything now ... 236234 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 283312 *** Entered Axes option page *** 299172 *** Exiting Axes option page *** 299203 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-16384 THROTTLE_SET 321015 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-15998 THROTTLE_SET 321031 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-15709 THROTTLE_SET 321062 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-15356 THROTTLE_SET 321078 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-14938 THROTTLE_SET 321109 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-14617 THROTTLE_SET 321109 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-14199 THROTTLE_SET 321125 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-13910 THROTTLE_SET 321140 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-13396 THROTTLE_SET 321156 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-12882 THROTTLE_SET 321172 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-12497 THROTTLE_SET 321172 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-12079 THROTTLE_SET 321187 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-11822 THROTTLE_SET 321203 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-11147 THROTTLE_SET 321218 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-10666 THROTTLE_SET 321218 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-10409 THROTTLE_SET 321234 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-9573 THROTTLE_SET 321250 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-9027 THROTTLE_SET 321250 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-8128 THROTTLE_SET 321265 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-7774 THROTTLE_SET 321281 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-7485 THROTTLE_SET 321281 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-6554 THROTTLE_SET 321297 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-5911 THROTTLE_SET 321312 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-5622 THROTTLE_SET 321312 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-4723 THROTTLE_SET 321328 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-4112 THROTTLE_SET 321343 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-3759 THROTTLE_SET 321359 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-2634 THROTTLE_SET 321359 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-1863 THROTTLE_SET 321375 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-803 THROTTLE_SET 321390 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-450 THROTTLE_SET 321390 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-97 THROTTLE_SET 321406 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=928 THROTTLE_SET 321422 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=1568 THROTTLE_SET 321422 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=1856 THROTTLE_SET 321437 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=2880 THROTTLE_SET 321453 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=3488 THROTTLE_SET 321468 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=3808 THROTTLE_SET 321468 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=4704 THROTTLE_SET 321484 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=5312 THROTTLE_SET 321500 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=6144 THROTTLE_SET 321500 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=6400 THROTTLE_SET 321515 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=6656 THROTTLE_SET 321531 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=7456 THROTTLE_SET 321531 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=8000 THROTTLE_SET 321562 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=8991 THROTTLE_SET 321578 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=9375 THROTTLE_SET 321578 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=9631 THROTTLE_SET 321593 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=10239 THROTTLE_SET 321609 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=10719 THROTTLE_SET 321625 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=11455 THROTTLE_SET 321640 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=12159 THROTTLE_SET 321656 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=12447 THROTTLE_SET 321687 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=13151 THROTTLE_SET 321687 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=13471 THROTTLE_SET 321718 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=14175 THROTTLE_SET 321718 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=14463 THROTTLE_SET 321750 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=15135 THROTTLE_SET 321765 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=15839 THROTTLE_SET 321781 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=16191 THROTTLE_SET 322437 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=15647 THROTTLE_SET 322453 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=15135 THROTTLE_SET 322468 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=14527 THROTTLE_SET 322484 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=13919 THROTTLE_SET 322500 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=13183 THROTTLE_SET 322500 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=12895 THROTTLE_SET 322515 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=12159 THROTTLE_SET 322531 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=11647 THROTTLE_SET 322547 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=11391 THROTTLE_SET 322547 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=10591 THROTTLE_SET 322562 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=10239 THROTTLE_SET 322578 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=9695 THROTTLE_SET 322578 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=8767 THROTTLE_SET 322593 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=8479 THROTTLE_SET 322609 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=7808 THROTTLE_SET 322609 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=6848 THROTTLE_SET 322625 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=6496 THROTTLE_SET 322640 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=5536 THROTTLE_SET 322656 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=4864 THROTTLE_SET 322656 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=4512 THROTTLE_SET 322672 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=3520 THROTTLE_SET 322687 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=3136 THROTTLE_SET 322687 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=2432 THROTTLE_SET 322703 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=1344 THROTTLE_SET 322718 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=992 THROTTLE_SET 322718 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=224 THROTTLE_SET 322734 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-900 THROTTLE_SET 322750 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-1285 THROTTLE_SET 322765 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-2634 THROTTLE_SET 322765 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-3084 THROTTLE_SET 322781 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-4048 THROTTLE_SET 322797 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-5172 THROTTLE_SET 322797 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-5558 THROTTLE_SET 322812 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-6200 THROTTLE_SET 322828 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-7389 THROTTLE_SET 322828 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-7807 THROTTLE_SET 322843 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-8577 THROTTLE_SET 322859 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-9798 THROTTLE_SET 322875 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-10184 THROTTLE_SET 322875 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-11212 THROTTLE_SET 322890 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-11533 THROTTLE_SET 322906 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-12240 THROTTLE_SET 322906 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-13203 THROTTLE_SET 322922 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-13557 THROTTLE_SET 322937 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-14167 THROTTLE_SET 322937 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-15099 THROTTLE_SET 322953 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-15356 THROTTLE_SET 322968 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-15870 THROTTLE_SET 322968 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-16384 THROTTLE_SET [Log closed by user request, and continued in new file] 348156 System time = 03/06/2017 22:10:23, Simulator time = 14:00:10 (21:00Z) 348156 *** FSUIPC log file being closed Minimum frame rate was 22.2 fps, Maximum was 22.2 fps Average frame rate for running time of 9 secs = 22.0 fps Maximum AI traffic for session was 96 aircraft Memory managed: 6 Allocs, 4 Freed ********* FSUIPC Log file closed *********** A second try.... ********* FSUIPC5, Version 5.10 (1st June 2017) by Pete Dowson ********* Windows 10 Home 64 Bit reported as Build 15063, Release ID: 1703 (OS 10.0) FSUIPC5.dll version = 5.1.0.0 Reading options from "E:\Prepar3dv4\Modules\FSUIPC5.ini" Running inside Prepar3D v4 on Windows 10 Module base=7FF9FF740000 FSUIPC5 Key is provided WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired 16 System time = 03/06/2017 22:14:41 16 FLT path = "C:\Users\greg\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Files\" 16 ------ Module Version Check ------ 16 acontain.dll: 4.0.23.21468 16 api.dll: 4.0.23.21468 16 controls.dll: 4.0.23.21468 16 fs-traffic.dll: 4.0.23.21468 16 G3D.dll: 4.0.23.21468 16 language.dll: 4.0.23.21468 16 sim1.dll: 4.0.23.21468 16 visualfx.dll: 4.0.23.21468 16 weather.dll: 4.0.23.21468 16 window.dll: 4.0.23.21468 16 ---------------------------------- 31 FS path = "E:\Prepar3dv4\" 125 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan ----------------------- 125 Product= Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Throttle 125 Manufacturer= Madcatz 141 Serial Number= G0018927 141 Vendor=0738, Product=A215 (Version 0.119) 281 GUIDs returned for product: VID_0738&PID_A215: 281 GUID= {8FD3DE00-3EE1-11E7-8002-444553540000} 281 Details: Btns=35, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R255,U255,V255,X1023,Y1023,Z255 281 Product= Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Stick 281 Manufacturer= Madcatz 281 Serial Number= G0017189 281 Vendor=0738, Product=2215 (Version 0.87) 281 GUIDs returned for product: VID_0738&PID_2215: 281 GUID= {8FD58BB0-3EE1-11E7-8005-444553540000} 281 Details: Btns=17, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R4095,U0,V0,X65535,Y65535,Z0 281 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 281 Device acquired for use: 281 Joystick ID = 0 (Registry okay) 281 0=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Throttle 281 0.GUID={8FD3DE00-3EE1-11E7-8002-444553540000} 281 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 297 LogOptions=50000000 00000001 297 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 297 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 297 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 11016 Running in "Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v4", Version: 4.0.23.21468 (SimConnect: 4.0.0.0) 11016 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 11016 FSUIPC Menu entry added 11016 ... Using Prepar3D with Academic License 11047 C:\Users\greg\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Files\F-14 Tomcat at CYYJ.fxml 11047 E:\Prepar3dv4\SimObjects\Airplanes\Grumman_F14D\F14D.air 109156 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65698 (0x000100a2), Param= 10923 (0x00002aab) FLAPS_SET 109156 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65698 (0x000100a2), Param= 10923 (0x00002aab) FLAPS_SET 110266 Aircraft loaded: running normally now ... 110266 User Aircraft ID 2 supplied, now being used 110375 System time = 03/06/2017 22:16:31, Simulator time = 14:00:01 (21:00Z) 110375 Aircraft="F-14D Tomcat 163900" 117359 Starting everything now ... 126094 *** Entered Axes option page *** 140406 *** Exiting Axes option page *** 140438 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-16384 THROTTLE_SET 170344 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-16063 THROTTLE_SET 170375 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-15420 THROTTLE_SET 170375 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-15099 THROTTLE_SET 170406 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-14264 THROTTLE_SET 170406 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-13910 THROTTLE_SET 170422 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-13653 THROTTLE_SET 170438 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-13011 THROTTLE_SET 170453 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-12754 THROTTLE_SET 170453 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-12079 THROTTLE_SET 170469 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-11565 THROTTLE_SET 170484 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-11308 THROTTLE_SET 170484 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-10537 THROTTLE_SET 170500 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-10055 THROTTLE_SET 170516 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-9798 THROTTLE_SET 170516 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-8931 THROTTLE_SET 170531 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-8288 THROTTLE_SET 170547 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-7646 THROTTLE_SET 170563 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-7003 THROTTLE_SET 170563 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-6650 THROTTLE_SET 170578 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-5654 THROTTLE_SET 170594 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-5012 THROTTLE_SET 170594 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-4658 THROTTLE_SET 170609 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-3502 THROTTLE_SET 170625 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-2667 THROTTLE_SET 170625 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-2185 THROTTLE_SET 170641 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-964 THROTTLE_SET 170656 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-193 THROTTLE_SET 170672 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=512 THROTTLE_SET 170672 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=1216 THROTTLE_SET 170688 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=1568 THROTTLE_SET 170703 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=2560 THROTTLE_SET 170703 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=3232 THROTTLE_SET 170719 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=3552 THROTTLE_SET 170734 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=4448 THROTTLE_SET 170734 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=5024 THROTTLE_SET 170750 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=5312 THROTTLE_SET 170766 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=6176 THROTTLE_SET 170766 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=6752 THROTTLE_SET 170781 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=7072 THROTTLE_SET 170797 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=7968 THROTTLE_SET 170813 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=8991 THROTTLE_SET 170828 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=9439 THROTTLE_SET 170844 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=9695 THROTTLE_SET 170844 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=10303 THROTTLE_SET 170859 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=10687 THROTTLE_SET 170875 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=11359 THROTTLE_SET 170891 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=11711 THROTTLE_SET 170922 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=12319 THROTTLE_SET 170938 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=12991 THROTTLE_SET 170953 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=13311 THROTTLE_SET 170969 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=13823 THROTTLE_SET 170984 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=14079 THROTTLE_SET 171000 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=14559 THROTTLE_SET 171016 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=15039 THROTTLE_SET 171031 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=15551 THROTTLE_SET 171063 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=16127 THROTTLE_SET 171063 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=16383 THROTTLE_SET 171313 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=15679 THROTTLE_SET 171328 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=15039 THROTTLE_SET 171344 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=14687 THROTTLE_SET 171359 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=13759 THROTTLE_SET 171375 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=13503 THROTTLE_SET 171391 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=12991 THROTTLE_SET 171391 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=12159 THROTTLE_SET 171406 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=11839 THROTTLE_SET 171422 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=11231 THROTTLE_SET 171422 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=10207 THROTTLE_SET 171438 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=9887 THROTTLE_SET 171453 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=8863 THROTTLE_SET 171453 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=8128 THROTTLE_SET 171469 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=7712 THROTTLE_SET 171484 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=6560 THROTTLE_SET 171484 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=6240 THROTTLE_SET 171500 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=5408 THROTTLE_SET 171516 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=4160 THROTTLE_SET 171531 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=3744 THROTTLE_SET 171531 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=2912 THROTTLE_SET 171547 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=1632 THROTTLE_SET 171563 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=1216 THROTTLE_SET 171563 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-97 THROTTLE_SET 171578 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-900 THROTTLE_SET 171594 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-1317 THROTTLE_SET 171594 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-2763 THROTTLE_SET 171609 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-3181 THROTTLE_SET 171625 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-4112 THROTTLE_SET 171641 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-5204 THROTTLE_SET 171641 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-5558 THROTTLE_SET 171656 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-6136 THROTTLE_SET 171672 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-7196 THROTTLE_SET 171672 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-7550 THROTTLE_SET 171688 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-8256 THROTTLE_SET 171703 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-9252 THROTTLE_SET 171703 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-9573 THROTTLE_SET 171719 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-10473 THROTTLE_SET 171734 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-10794 THROTTLE_SET 171750 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-11404 THROTTLE_SET 171750 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-12336 THROTTLE_SET 171766 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-12593 THROTTLE_SET 171781 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-13171 THROTTLE_SET 171781 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-14039 THROTTLE_SET 171813 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-14874 THROTTLE_SET 171813 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-15388 THROTTLE_SET 171828 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-15966 THROTTLE_SET 171844 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65697, Param=-16384 THROTTLE_SET 208781 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 209297 ***** HID USB device reconnected: re-initialising FSUIPC connections 209297 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan ----------------------- 209297 Product= Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Throttle 209297 Manufacturer= Madcatz 209297 Serial Number= G0018927 209297 Vendor=0738, Product=A215 (Version 0.119) 209297 GUIDs returned for product: VID_0738&PID_A215: 209297 GUID= {8FD3DE00-3EE1-11E7-8002-444553540000} 209297 Details: Btns=35, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R255,U255,V255,X1023,Y1023,Z255 209297 Product= Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Stick 209297 Manufacturer= Madcatz 209297 Serial Number= G0017189 209297 Vendor=0738, Product=2215 (Version 0.87) 209297 GUIDs returned for product: VID_0738&PID_2215: 209297 GUID= {8FD58BB0-3EE1-11E7-8005-444553540000} 209297 Details: Btns=17, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R4095,U0,V0,X65535,Y65535,Z0 209297 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 209313 Device acquired for use: 209313 Joystick ID = 0 (Registry okay) 209313 0=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Throttle 209313 0.GUID={8FD3DE00-3EE1-11E7-8002-444553540000} 209313 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 247859 *** Entered Axes option page *** 255063 *** Exiting Axes option page *** 255781 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -16384 (0xffffc000) THROTTLE_SET 283578 *** Entered Axes option page *** 303766 *** Exiting Axes option page *** 304484 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -16384 (0xffffc000) THROTTLE_SET 307031 KEYDOWN: VK=80, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 307031 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 307141 KEYUP: VK=80, Waiting=0 308375 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -16030 (0xffffc162) THROTTLE_SET 308375 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -16030 (0xffffc162) THROTTLE_SET 308438 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -14649 (0xffffc6c7) THROTTLE_SET 308438 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -14649 (0xffffc6c7) THROTTLE_SET 308484 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -11790 (0xffffd1f2) THROTTLE_SET 308484 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -11790 (0xffffd1f2) THROTTLE_SET 308516 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -8545 (0xffffde9f) THROTTLE_SET 308516 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -8545 (0xffffde9f) THROTTLE_SET 308563 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -5815 (0xffffe949) THROTTLE_SET 308563 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -5815 (0xffffe949) THROTTLE_SET 308609 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -2795 (0xfffff515) THROTTLE_SET 308609 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -2795 (0xfffff515) THROTTLE_SET 308656 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 2464 (0x000009a0) THROTTLE_SET 308656 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 2464 (0x000009a0) THROTTLE_SET 308703 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 5408 (0x00001520) THROTTLE_SET 308703 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 5408 (0x00001520) THROTTLE_SET 308750 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 7968 (0x00001f20) THROTTLE_SET 308750 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 7968 (0x00001f20) THROTTLE_SET 308797 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 10207 (0x000027df) THROTTLE_SET 308797 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 10207 (0x000027df) THROTTLE_SET 308844 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 11743 (0x00002ddf) THROTTLE_SET 308844 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 11743 (0x00002ddf) THROTTLE_SET 308875 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 12479 (0x000030bf) THROTTLE_SET 308875 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 12479 (0x000030bf) THROTTLE_SET 308938 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 13311 (0x000033ff) THROTTLE_SET 308938 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 13311 (0x000033ff) THROTTLE_SET 308969 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 13887 (0x0000363f) THROTTLE_SET 308969 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 13887 (0x0000363f) THROTTLE_SET 309016 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 14175 (0x0000375f) THROTTLE_SET 309016 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 14175 (0x0000375f) THROTTLE_SET 309063 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 14463 (0x0000387f) THROTTLE_SET 309063 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 14463 (0x0000387f) THROTTLE_SET 309109 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 14719 (0x0000397f) THROTTLE_SET 309109 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 14719 (0x0000397f) THROTTLE_SET 309156 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 15007 (0x00003a9f) THROTTLE_SET 309156 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 15007 (0x00003a9f) THROTTLE_SET 309203 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 15263 (0x00003b9f) THROTTLE_SET 309203 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 15263 (0x00003b9f) THROTTLE_SET 309250 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 15615 (0x00003cff) THROTTLE_SET 309250 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 15615 (0x00003cff) THROTTLE_SET 309297 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 15903 (0x00003e1f) THROTTLE_SET 309297 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 15903 (0x00003e1f) THROTTLE_SET 309359 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 16159 (0x00003f1f) THROTTLE_SET 309359 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 16159 (0x00003f1f) THROTTLE_SET 320125 KEYDOWN: VK=39, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 320125 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 320625 KEYDOWN: VK=39, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 320625 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 320688 KEYDOWN: VK=39, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 320688 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 320734 KEYDOWN: VK=39, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 320734 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 320797 KEYDOWN: VK=39, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 320797 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 320844 KEYDOWN: VK=39, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 320844 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 320844 KEYUP: VK=39, Waiting=0 321594 KEYDOWN: VK=40, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 321594 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 322094 KEYDOWN: VK=40, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 322094 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 322156 KEYDOWN: VK=40, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 322156 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 322203 KEYDOWN: VK=40, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 322203 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 322266 KEYDOWN: VK=40, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 322266 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 322313 KEYDOWN: VK=40, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 322313 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 322375 KEYDOWN: VK=40, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 322375 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 322438 KEYDOWN: VK=40, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 322438 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 322500 KEYDOWN: VK=40, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 322500 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 322547 KEYDOWN: VK=40, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 322547 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 322594 KEYDOWN: VK=40, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 322594 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 322672 KEYDOWN: VK=40, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 322672 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 322719 KEYDOWN: VK=40, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 322719 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 322766 KEYDOWN: VK=40, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 322766 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 322828 KEYDOWN: VK=40, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 322828 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 322875 KEYDOWN: VK=40, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 322875 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 322938 KEYUP: VK=40, Waiting=0 323328 KEYDOWN: VK=83, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 323328 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 323828 KEYDOWN: VK=83, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 323828 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 323875 KEYDOWN: VK=83, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 323875 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 323922 KEYDOWN: VK=83, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 323922 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 323922 KEYUP: VK=83, Waiting=0 324219 KEYDOWN: VK=83, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 324219 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 324359 KEYUP: VK=83, Waiting=0 325219 KEYDOWN: VK=65, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 325219 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 325625 KEYUP: VK=65, Waiting=0 327578 KEYDOWN: VK=65, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 327578 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 328063 KEYDOWN: VK=65, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 328063 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 328141 KEYDOWN: VK=65, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 328141 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 328219 KEYDOWN: VK=65, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 328219 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 328281 KEYDOWN: VK=65, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 328281 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 328313 KEYDOWN: VK=65, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 328313 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 328359 KEYDOWN: VK=65, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 328359 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 328406 KEYDOWN: VK=65, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 328406 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 328438 KEYDOWN: VK=65, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 328438 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 328469 KEYDOWN: VK=65, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 328469 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 328500 KEYDOWN: VK=65, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 328500 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 328531 KEYDOWN: VK=65, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 328531 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 328625 KEYDOWN: VK=65, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 328625 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 328625 KEYDOWN: VK=65, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 328625 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 328719 KEYDOWN: VK=65, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 328719 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 328734 KEYDOWN: VK=65, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 328734 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 328781 KEYDOWN: VK=65, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=0 328781 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 328781 KEYUP: VK=65, Waiting=0 335234 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 31 secs = 19.4 fps 335234 Max AI traffic was 96 aircraft (Deleted 0) 335234 User aircraft crashed! 337297 KEYDOWN: VK=27, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 337297 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 340656 === Closing session: waiting for DLLStop to be called ... 345391 === DLLStop called ... 345391 === Closing external processes we started ... 346391 === About to kill any Lua plug-ins still running ... 346547 === Closing global Lua thread 347547 === About to kill my timers ... 347734 === Restoring window procs ... 347734 === Unloading libraries ... 347734 === stopping other threads ... 347734 === ... Button scanning ... 347844 === ... Axis scanning ... 347938 === Releasing joystick devices ... 347938 === Freeing macro memory 347938 === Removing any offset overrides 347938 === Clearing any displays left 347938 === Calling SimConnect_Close ... 350047 === SimConnect_Close done! 350047 === AI slots deleted! 350047 === Freeing button memory ... 350047 === Closing my Windows ... 350047 === Freeing FS libraries ... 351047 === Closing devices ... 351047 === Closing the Log ... Bye Bye! ... 351047 System time = 03/06/2017 22:20:32, Simulator time = 14:00:39 (21:00Z) 351047 *** FSUIPC log file being closed Minimum frame rate was 12.7 fps, Maximum was 29.3 fps Average frame rate for running time of 52 secs = 20.7 fps Maximum AI traffic for session was 96 aircraft Memory managed: 22 Allocs, 21 Freed ********* FSUIPC Log file closed *********** And from the DDL - from Lockheed Martin Appdata <?xml version="1.0" encoding="WINDOWS-1252"?> <SimBase.Document version="1,0" Type="Launch"> <Descr>Launch</Descr> <Filename>dll.xml</Filename> <Disabled>False</Disabled> <Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad> <Launch.Addon> <Name>FSUIPC 5</Name> <Disabled>False</Disabled> <Path>Modules\FSUIPC5.dll</Path> </Launch.Addon> </SimBase.Document> FSUIPC5.JoyScan.csv Edited June 4, 2017 by 72VirginExpress Added another log file Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 4 hours ago, 72VirginExpress said: My issue is similar to what Dawgfan posted earlier No, yours is different. FSUIPC does have the Stick listed, his didn't. But both Stick and Throttle of the X55 normally give two GUIDs each in the Registry. Your Stick does, but the Throttle is only giving one, presumably the wrong one. Very odd. That's a combination I've not seen before. Can you please add these lines to the [General] section of the FSUIPC5.INI file, then just run P3D4 again please and show me both the LOG and the FSUIPC5.Joyscan.csv file again? Debug=Please LogExtras=x200000 Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 Please download version 5.101. I don't think it will fix it but it will give me more information. Before running it add Debug=Please LogExtras=x200000 to the [General] section of FSUIPC5.INI. And please show me the Log, the INI and the CSV file resulting. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72VirginExpress Posted June 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) That seems to have fixed it..will continue to test and set things up the way I had before - see attached. FSUIPC5.JoyScan.csv FSUIPC5.ini FSUIPC5.log Edited June 4, 2017 by 72VirginExpress Fixing to reflect 5.101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim610 Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Guys I am having similar problems with the x55. This is what I get after P3Dv4 runs. [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=Yes 0=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Throttle 0.GUID={304AE990-CD37-11E6-8006-444553540000} A=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Throttle A.GUID={304AE990-CD37-11E6-8006-444553540000} I tried pasting the required entry from my P3Dv3 installation which is this: [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=No 0=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Throttle 0.GUID={304AE990-CD37-11E6-8006-444553540000} 1=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Stick 1.GUID={304B5EC0-CD37-11E6-8007-444553540000} After running v4 again it changed the entry to this: [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=No 0=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Throttle 0.GUID={304AE990-CD37-11E6-8006-444553540000} A=<< MISSING JOYSTICK >> << MISSING JOYSTICK >> Just for comparison the same entry in my FSX:SE installation is the same as my P3Dv3 and is [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=No 0=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Throttle 0.GUID={304AE990-CD37-11E6-8006-444553540000} 1=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Stick 1.GUID={304B5EC0-CD37-11E6-8007-444553540000} I can only deduce that as all is ok in FSX and P3Dv3 then my joystick entries are not the issue and it is something unique to P3Dv4/FSUIPS 5 but I don't know what. In case you ask I carried out the same logging you asked 72VirginExpress to do and have attached the files. Thanks in anticipation. Jim FSUIPC5.ini FSUIPC5.JoyScan.csv FSUIPC5.log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, Jim610 said: Guys I am having similar problems with the x55. You are still using 5.10, that's why! Try 5.101 which was released to fix this! 16 minutes ago, Jim610 said: I can only deduce that as all is ok in FSX and P3Dv3 then my joystick entries are not the issue and it is something unique to P3Dv4/FSUIPS 5 but I don't know what. If it is okay in FSX and P3D3 then you are out of date with FSUIPC there too!!! The equivalent of FSUIPC 5.1 for those is 4.967 and behaves identically. The fix will be in 4.968, probably tomorrow. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim610 Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Pete 45 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said: You are still using 5.10, that's why! Try 5.101 which was released to fix this! Well that now has the joystick being detected now. The only oddity is although it detects the rudder axis it is not passing it on the the sim however all other axis do! 46 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said: If it is okay in FSX and P3D3 then you are out of date with FSUIPC there too!!! The equivalent of FSUIPC 5.1 for those is 4.967 and behaves identically. The fix will be in 4.968, probably tomorrow. No offence but if being up-to-date means I breaking those sims, I'll wait:) Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Jim610 said: Well that now has the joystick being detected now. The only oddity is although it detects the rudder axis it is not passing it on the the sim Can you show me these files, then, please, all from your P3D Modules folder: FSUIPC5.INI FSUIPC5.LOG FSUIPC5.JoyScan.csv Thanks, 2 hours ago, Jim610 said: No offence but if being up-to-date means I breaking those sims But you aren't even close to being 'up to date'. And if no one uses new versions and let's me know of problems, then nothing will ever progress and there wouldn't have been an FSUIPC5 at all. Mind you, I could have retired and done some flying myself then! ;-) So maybe that's best. I'll never change anything, I'll ignore all user requests, and go fly. BTW you can always keep a copy of your last "fully working one" (for you) so you can restore after reporting the problems so that they get fixed. It was because so many folks stayed with 4.966c and never tested 4.966m or updated to 4.967 that the newer problems (for some systems, not many in fact) never came till too late for the FSUIPC5.1 release last week. When problems only occur in certain configurations there's no way they'll come to light unless enough people are involved. And that' more than a hadful of Beta testers. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim610 Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 16 hours ago, Pete Dowson said: Can you show me these files, then, please, all from your P3D Modules folder: FSUIPC5.INI FSUIPC5.LOG FSUIPC5.JoyScan.csv Thanks, As requested. FSUIPC5.log FSUIPC5.ini FSUIPC5.JoyScan.csv 16 hours ago, Pete Dowson said: But you aren't even close to being 'up to date'...... You say that but my FSUIPC4 is version 4.96 which on a quick look at your website is the version displayed. I need to go searching onto the forum to find out if there has been a sub version update (4.96x etc) as there is no hint on the front page. Unless I am having issues, or I happen to spot it on another forum stating that ver x is required for a particular addon I have no way of knowing an update has occurred. I don't go scouring the internet for potential new versions of anything when everything is working. Happy to beta test for you, I just need a nudge that something has changed. Anyway, keep up the good work. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Jim610 said: You say that but my FSUIPC4 is version 4.96 which on a quick look at your website is the version displayed THIS is my website. If you mean the Schiratti "Dowson" page, that is a private site run by Enrico Schiratti. I keep asking him to update it -- I don't think he's even updated it for FSUIPC5 and P3D4 yet. :-( The download place (and in fact where the links on the Schiratti page point) is here, in the Download Links sunforum. That is under my controls and is the ONLY place which is complete and up to date. There are other subforums you should probably tkenote of too. Even the links on SimMarket point here. 1 hour ago, Jim610 said: I just need a nudge that something has changed. I understand that, but unless I build Internet access into FSUIPC (and have it permanently sitting in FS address space?) there's no way. I am very reluctant to add any Internet Access at all to FSUIPC. And in any case, many folks keep their FS PCs internet free. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 20 hours ago, Jim610 said: Well that now has the joystick being detected now. The only oddity is although it detects the rudder axis it is not passing it on the the sim however all other axis do! The log shows that only the X-55 Throttle and X-55 Stick are connected and in the Rergistry. They would be seen in the FSUIPC menu as joysticks A and B respectively, as labelled here, in your INI file: [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=Yes 0=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Throttle 0.GUID={304AE990-CD37-11E6-8006-444553540000} A=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Throttle A.GUID={304AE990-CD37-11E6-8006-444553540000} 1=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Stick 1.GUID={304B5EC0-CD37-11E6-8007-444553540000} B=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Stick B.GUID={304B5EC0-CD37-11E6-8007-444553540000} There's no sign of any pedals at all, anywhere. So how do you determine that "it detects the rudder axis"? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim610 Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 In here! I don't have separate rudder pedals just the joystick yaw axis. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 40 minutes ago, Jim610 said: I don't have separate rudder pedals just the joystick yaw axis. Ah. Joy B axis R. Right. So the problem is? It looks okay in the pix. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim610 Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 14 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said: So the problem is? It looks okay in the pix. Correct, it does look ok in the pix but unless I have that axis assigned within the FS controls menu I get no rudder movement. I have no other axis assigned within the sim and they all work great via FSUIPC but not the yaw/rudder axis. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Jim610 said: it does look ok in the pix but unless I have that axis assigned within the FS controls menu I get no rudder movement. Does the IN value arriving from the axis in the Axis Assignment tab change when you move it? Does the IN value change on the Calibrations tab for the rudder change when you move it? It certainly shows an Inocming value in the pic you posted. And you seem to have calibrated it okay. Are you using a default or add-on aircraft? Have you tried assigning to the more usual FS control, the Axis rudder set one in the FS contorls assignment dopdown? Have you also assigned the FSUIPC steering tiller? If so, when you are on the ground and at slow speeds the tiller controls the rudder -- the rudder takes over graduakky as you speed up. This is an FSUIPC facility. See the documentation. You could also have tested the detection and operation in FSUIPC of that axis by assigning to somethhing you evidently trust in any case, such as the ailerons, just as a test of course. BTW I've just tested the twist axis on the X-55 stick, and is detected and operates just fine. In fact unless there's a fault in the device itself, or with its Windows calibration, there's no way one out of all the axes on a particular device cannot be detected -- all of them are returned in one data block, every time (along with the button states). Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim610 Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Oh, this might be a long answer! 19 hours ago, Pete Dowson said: Does the IN value arriving from the axis in the Axis Assignment tab change when you move it? Yes 19 hours ago, Pete Dowson said: Does the IN value change on the Calibrations tab for the rudder change when you move it? It certainly shows an Inocming value in the pic you posted. And you seem to have calibrated it okay. Yes 19 hours ago, Pete Dowson said: Are you using a default or add-on aircraft? Default 19 hours ago, Pete Dowson said: Have you tried assigning to the more usual FS control, the Axis rudder set one in the FS contorls assignment dopdown? Yes Works OK if I do this. 19 hours ago, Pete Dowson said: Have you also assigned the FSUIPC steering tiller? If so, when you are on the ground and at slow speeds the tiller controls the rudder -- the rudder takes over graduakky as you speed up. This is an FSUIPC facility. See the documentation. This is where it gets a bit complicated. In short Yes however, once I cleared that assignment I still didn't get any rudder movement in the sim. Now, for the complication. I only assigned the Steering Tiller as that is how I have my FSUIPC4 in FSX/P3D3 however I have since noticed that not only has that control been renamed it no longer works the same. When it was named Steering Set (way back then) it is behaved as I would expect it would in the real world (on large aeroplanes) and a quirk of FS allowed it to also work the same on light aeroplanes. However, since it became Steering Tiller it actually your documentation states that it interferes with the rudder which a real steering tiller never would as it only turns the nose wheel steering. The only reason I can make comparisons with the real world is I am an aircraft engineer. As it currently is I think it will cause problems when FSLabs A320 is released for P3D4. 20 hours ago, Pete Dowson said: You could also have tested the detection and operation in FSUIPC of that axis by assigning to somethhing you evidently trust in any case, such as the ailerons, just as a test of course. Set the Rz axis for ailerons, worked fine. 20 hours ago, Pete Dowson said: BTW I've just tested the twist axis on the X-55 stick, and is detected and operates just fine. In fact unless there's a fault in the device itself, or with its Windows calibration, there's no way one out of all the axes on a particular device cannot be detected -- all of them are returned in one data block, every time (along with the button states). Nothing wrong with my device. Works as I would expect it to in FSX (FSUIPC 4), FSW, X-Plane 11, DCS and P3D3 (FSUIPC 4). It is only in P3D4 trying to control the rudder via FSUIPC v5 that I have problems. You have previously stated that my FSUIPC4 installation is no where near up to date (Jan 17!) so as a test I will update that to the latest and see if this problem shows itself in those sims that use it. I'll let you know. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Jim610 said: I have since noticed that not only has that control been renamed it no longer works the same. Sterring Set is an FS contorl, it is NOT the FSUIPC tiller control. For that you have to use the "Direct To FSUIPC" mode of assignment. FSUIPC is working fine from what you say. You are just misunderstand some of its advanced functions. It most certainly isn't anything t do with axis responsiveness. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim610 Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Yeh, your right. I had missed the nuance for "Direct to FSUIPC Calibration" and "Direct to FS". Now I have found Steering Set all seems to be working. I am still a little confused as to why I couldn't get the rudders on their own to work without the confusion of Steering Set/Tillers however it all seems to be working now with or without the steering set! Thank you for you patience. I'll stop bothering you for now. Cheers Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 12 hours ago, Jim610 said: I am still a little confused as to why I couldn't get the rudders on their own to work without the confusion of Steering Set/Tillers Have a look at the business of tillers/steering in the documentation. I am sure searching on some word like that will find the explanation for you. There's also an INI file parameter to control its operation (MaxSteerSpeed). Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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