AlsoManage not working in P3d v4

[honanhal]

I'm sure I'm doing something very simple wrong here, but I've tried to follow both the FSUIPC manual and what I've found online from people using P3D. Never had any problems with FSX. The extra files never get culled -- they keep building up.

[AutoSave]
Next=2
Interval=600
Files=3
SaveOnGround=No
AutoSaveEnabled=Yes
AlsoManage1=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\*.0.rte
AlsoManage2=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\*.1.rte
AlsoManage3=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\*.2.rte
AlsoManage4=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\*.fxml.fmc
AlsoManage5=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\*.fxml.sav
AlsoManage6=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 777X\PanelState\*.fxml.0.rte
AlsoManage7=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 777X\PanelState\*.fxml.1.rte
AlsoManage8=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 777X\PanelState\*.fxml.2.rte
AlsoManage9=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 777X\PanelState\*.fxml.fmc
AlsoManage10=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 777X\PanelState\*.fxml.sav
AlsoManage11=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\*.fxml.0.rte
AlsoManage12=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\*.fxml.1.rte
AlsoManage13=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\*.fxml.2.rte
AlsoManage14=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\*.fxml.fmc
AlsoManage15=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\*.fxml.sav
1=Sun 155203
2=Sat 221713
3=Sat 222713

Appreciate any help!

Thanks,
James

[Pete Dowson]

12 hours ago, honanhal said:

I'm sure I'm doing something very simple wrong here, but I've tried to follow both the FSUIPC manual and what I've found online from people using P3D. Never had any problems with FSX. The extra files never get culled -- they keep building up.

The code is identical in FSUIPC5 to that in FSUIPC4, but maybe there's a 32-64 bit difference I've missed. I'll have to do some tests here.

Do those AlsoManage lines work okay in FSUIPC4? I'm wondering if you need "" around the complete path, because of the spaces in the folder names. (FSUIPC doesn't process INI lines directly, it uses a standard Windows function).

I'll come back to this when I've done some tests myself. Meanwhile can you confirm that you are using the latest version, 5.121a? I don't want to waste time if it is something fixed by a recent change.

Pete

[Pete Dowson]

I've tested this here with FSUIPC 5.121a, and i cannot make it go wrong. It deletes the files it is supposed to every time.

Pete

 

[honanhal]

Pete,

Just checked, and I had been on a slightly earlier version of FSUIPC5, but I just installed the latest version. No difference -- it's still not deleting the files.

No idea if the AlsoManage lines work in FSUIPC4, unfortunately. I went straight from FSX to P3D last month and FSUIPC5 is the first version I'm using with P3D.

Can you clarify a bit where exactly I'd put the quotemarks around the complete path, in case that's the issue?

e.g. is it

AlsoManage1="C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\*.0.rte"

Thanks,
James

[Pete Dowson]

7 hours ago, honanhal said:

Can you clarify a bit where exactly I'd put the quotemarks around the complete path, in case that's the issue?

e.g. is it

AlsoManage1="C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\*.0.rte"

Yes, it would be. But I tried without quotes and it did work here.

Can you double check that the pathname is exactly right too?

I've added some extra AutoSave logging.  Download this: FSUIPC5.121b. Copy the DLL into the Modules folder, and edit the FSUIPC5.INI file, adding:

Debug=Please
LogExtras=4

to the [General] section. 

This will make FSUIPC log each autosave and the deletions, with an error number if the latter fail.

Pete

 

 

[honanhal]

Pete,

Just installed the updated module and tested it. Here's the relevant part of the log file (I was flying the NGX):

   631016 Autosave started: next file entry 0
   631016 Autosave: deleting "C:\Users\James\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Files\AutoSave Sun 203950"
   631016 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\"
   631016 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\"
   631016 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\"
   631016 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\"
   631016 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\"
   631016 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 777X\PanelState\"
   631016 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 777X\PanelState\"
   631016 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 777X\PanelState\"
   631016 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 777X\PanelState\"
   631016 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 777X\PanelState\"
   631016 *** ERROR: Autosave couldn't delete "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\" (error 1)
   631016 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\"
   631016 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\"
   631016 *** ERROR: Autosave couldn't delete "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\" (error 1)
   631016 *** ERROR: Autosave couldn't delete "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\" (error 1)
   631016 ... Autosave finished
  1230516 Autosave started: next file entry 1
  1230516 Autosave: deleting "C:\Users\James\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Files\AutoSave Sun 204950"
  1230516 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\"
  1230516 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\"
  1230516 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\"
  1230516 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\"
  1230516 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\"
  1230516 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 777X\PanelState\"
  1230516 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 777X\PanelState\"
  1230516 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 777X\PanelState\"
  1230516 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 777X\PanelState\"
  1230516 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 777X\PanelState\"
  1230516 *** ERROR: Autosave couldn't delete "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\" (error 1)
  1230516 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\"
  1230516 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\"
  1230516 *** ERROR: Autosave couldn't delete "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\" (error 1)
  1230516 *** ERROR: Autosave couldn't delete "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\" (error 1)
  1230516 ... Autosave finished

[Pete Dowson]

6 hours ago, honanhal said:

Just installed the updated module and tested it. Here's the relevant part of the log file (I was flying the NGX):

Oops! I made a silly error in the logging I'm afraid, so it isn't as informative as it should be. This log line is correct:

631016 Autosave: deleting "C:\Users\James\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Files\AutoSave Sun 203950"

The .FXML and .WX parts aren't included in the log line, but this log line is certainly wrong:

631016 Autosave: deleting "C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\"
 
It should have the the full filename. I'll fix that now so we get proper logging. I'll also fix it so that it doesn't log an error line for the 5 x 747 deletions, plus 5 x 777 deletions, when those files won't exist in any case when using the 737.

However, though I can't tell precisely from the log which files were deleted okay and which not, in your INI you have 5 files referenced for the 737. The log (which because of my error is showing error 1 for good deletions and no error for deletion failed or file not present) seems to indicate that those I've highlighted here in RED were, in fact, deleted okay:

AlsoManage11=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\*.fxml.0.rte
AlsoManage12=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\*.fxml.1.rte
AlsoManage13=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\*.fxml.2.rte
AlsoManage14=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\*.fxml.fmc
AlsoManage15=C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState\*.fxml.sav

Are they ALL actually generated each time, or only those three of them?  Please clarify. What files are NOT being deleted?

If those were the only three generated, and they are NOT being deleted, then I can only think it is because FSUIPC cannot access that folder for deletions.  But in that case it should get an error saying access denied.

Anyway, for clarity in the logging, fixing my stupod (hurried) mods, please download this and replace the DLL and run the test again. I've not changed the version number or date in the file, so please destroy the previous one to avoid any confusion.

FSUIPC5121b2.zip

Regards
Pete

 

 

[honanhal]

Pete, apologies -- I see now that it's correctly deleting new files as it goes, but that it wasn't culling older autosaves from before when I put the "alsomanage" lines in. Sorry to waste your time! I've manually deleted the old files, and it should be good to go from here on in.

Thanks again,
James

 

[Pete Dowson]

5 hours ago, honanhal said:

 I see now that it's correctly deleting new files as it goes, but that it wasn't culling older autosaves from before when I put the "alsomanage" lines in

Ah, that explains why I couldn't reproduce it here! ;-)

Pete

 

[d809dp]

Hi There,

Can I also ask for some help? Here's the text from my .ini file... all addons are being well managed, apart from QualityWIngs... any ideas?

THanks,

Tom

 

[AutoSave]
Next=2
Interval=15
Files=2
SaveOnGround=Yes
AutoSaveEnabled=Yes
1=Thu 070436
2=Thu 070422
3=Mon 202840
4=Mon 204020
5=Mon 205159
6=Tue 214007
7=Tue 214106
8=Tue 214206
9=Tue 214305
10=Tue 214405
AlsoManage1=PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\*.fxml.sav
AlsoManage2=PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\*.fxml.1.rte
AlsoManage3=PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\*.fxml.fmc
AlsoManage4=PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\*.fxml.efb0
AlsoManage5=PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\*.fxml.efb1
AlsoManage6=PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\*.fxml.4.rte
AlsoManage7=D:\Tom\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\FSLabs\A320\PanelState\*.fxml.sav
AlsoManage8=D:\Tom\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\FSLabs\A320\PanelState\*.fxml.xml
AlsoManage9=D:\Tom\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\FSLabs\A320\PanelState\*.fxml.FM1
AlsoManage10=D:\Tom\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\FSLabs\A320\PanelState\*.fxml.FM2
AlsoManage11=QualityWings\QW787\PanelStates\*.PNL
AlsoManage12=PMDG\PMDG 747 QOTS II\PanelState\*.fxml.0.rte

[John Dowson]

Hi,

what files are not being deleted?

Try adding the additional logging flags to your FSUIPC5.ini file, as mentioned above:

Quote

Debug=Please
LogExtras=4

Cheers,

John

[d809dp]

Hi there... does any of this help you? The file which is not being deleted is the quality wings panel state file. "Also manage number 11".

Thanks,

Tom

 

        0 System time = 13/12/2018 20:41:11
        0 FLT path = "D:\Tom\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Files\"
        0 Using DialogMode
       16 FS path = "C:\Program Files\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\"
       94 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan -----------------------
       94 Product= Saitek X52 Flight Control System
       94    Manufacturer= Saitek
       94    Vendor=06A3, Product=075C (Version 1.16)
       94    GUIDs returned for product: VID_06A3&PID_075C:
       94       GUID= {1F008440-786F-11E7-8008-444553540000}
       94       Details: Btns=34, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R1023,U255,V255,X2047,Y2047,Z255
       94 -------------------------------------------------------------------
      110 Device acquired for use:
      110    Joystick ID = 0 (Registry okay)
      110    0=X52 H.O.T.A.S.
      110    0.GUID={1F008440-786F-11E7-8008-444553540000}
      110 -------------------------------------------------------------------
      110 LogOptions=00000000 00000051
      110 -------------------------------------------------------------------
      110 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay
      110 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay
    10516 Ready Flags: Ready-To-Fly=N, In Menu=N, In Dlg=N
    11375 Running in "Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v4", Version: 4.4.16.27077 (SimConnect: 4.4.0.0)
    11375 Initialising SimConnect data requests now
    11375 FSUIPC Menu entry added
    11375 ... Using Prepar3D with Professional License
    11391 Ready Flags: Ready-To-Fly=N, In Menu=Y, In Dlg=Y
    11407 C:\Users\Tom\AppData\Local\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Prepar3D_Default.fxml
    11407 C:\Program Files\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\SimObjects\Airplanes\IRIS Raptor Driver\Raptor.air
    11610 Deactivated for PID=12300, "VATSpy.exe"
    30110 C:\Program Files\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\SimObjects\Airplanes\QualityWings 787-9\Boeing 787-9 RR.air
    81829 Loading Complete ...
    82891 Ready Flags: Ready-To-Fly=N, In Menu=N, In Dlg=N
    82891 Aircraft loaded: running normally now ...
    82969 User Aircraft ID 2 supplied, now being used
    83391 System time = 13/12/2018 20:42:35, Simulator time = 20:41:24 (04:41Z)
    83391 Aircraft="QualityWings 787-9 Virgin Atlantic Airways -SATCOM"
    85079 Deactivated for PID=6880, "explorer.exe"
    85079 Lost focus to PID=6880, "explorer.exe"
    90344 -------------------- Starting everything now ----------------------
    90344 Ready Flags: Ready-To-Fly=Y, In Menu=N, In Dlg=N
    90391 ASN active function link set
    90391 Ready for ActiveSky WX radar with additional data
    91250 Deactivated for PID=8624, "PFPX.exe"
    91250 Lost focus to PID=8624, "PFPX.exe"
    93016 Weather Mode now = Theme
    93688 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled
    99594 Autosave started: next file entry 1
    99594 Autosave: deleting "D:\Tom\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Files\AutoSave Thu 204030"
    99594 ... Autosave finished
   108266 Deactivated for PID=6880, "explorer.exe"
   108282 Lost focus to PID=6880, "explorer.exe"
   108344 Ready Flags: Ready-To-Fly=Y, In Menu=Y, In Dlg=Y
   108344 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 25 secs = 31.2 fps
   108344    Max AI traffic was 0 aircraft
   108860 Ready Flags: Ready-To-Fly=Y, In Menu=N, In Dlg=N
   109094 Autosave started: next file entry 0
   109094 Autosave: deleting "D:\Tom\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Files\AutoSave Thu 204040"
   109110 ... Autosave finished
   112079 Deactivated: culprit unknown
   112079 Focus lost: culprit unknown
   118594 Autosave started: next file entry 1
   118594 Autosave: deleting "D:\Tom\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Files\AutoSave Thu 204251"
   118594 ... Autosave finished
   128172 Autosave started: next file entry 0
   128172 Autosave: deleting "D:\Tom\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Files\AutoSave Thu 204300"
   128172 ... Autosave finished
   133985 Ready Flags: Ready-To-Fly=Y, In Menu=Y, In Dlg=Y
   133985 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 25 secs = 33.4 fps
   133985    Max AI traffic was 0 aircraft
   134954 === Closing session: waiting for DLLStop to be called ...
   145907 === DLLStop called ...
   145907 === Closing external processes we started ...
   146907 === About to kill any Lua plug-ins still running ...
   147063 === Closing global Lua thread
   148079 === About to kill my timers ...
   148266 === Restoring window procs ...
   148266 === Unloading libraries ...
   148266 === stopping other threads ...
   148266 === ... Button scanning ...
   148375 === ... Axis scanning ...
   148469 === Releasing joystick devices ...
   148469 === Freeing macro memory
   148469 === Removing any offset overrides
   148469 === Clearing any displays left
   148469 === NOTE: not calling SimConnect_Close ...
   148469 === AI slots deleted!
   148469 === Freeing button memory ...
   148469 === Deleting wxstationlist.bin file ...
   148469 === Closing my Windows ...
   148469 === Freeing FS libraries ...
   149469 === Closing devices ...
   149469 === Closing the Log ... Bye Bye! ...
   149469 System time = 13/12/2018 20:43:41, Simulator time = 20:43:24 (04:43Z)
   149469 *** FSUIPC log file being closed
Minimum frame rate was 29.3 fps, Maximum was 35.0 fps
Average frame rate for running time of 50 secs = 32.3 fps
Maximum AI traffic for session was 0 aircraft
Memory managed: 23 Allocs, 22 Freed
********* FSUIPC Log file closed ***********

[Pete Dowson]

Hi,

As John asked, "what files are not being deleted?"?

Although your thread title sweepingly states "AlsoManage not working ...", are you reallly sating "Alsomanage isn't working for this one add-on aircraft"?, because you seem to have quote a few AlsoManage entries.

Do i assume this is the entry which you say doesn't work?

AlsoManage11=QualityWings\QW787\PanelStates\*.PNL

Do you think you could actually list the files which you think should be deleted and which were not. If there's a lot, just give a batch please.

The LOG file, with the settings John gave you, would have listed an error if the deletion failed, which it doesn't, which makes me think you are really talking about some variations not covered by the *.PNL template, where the * is replaced by the usual "AutoSave Thu 204040" type of naming which is what Autosave generates (obviously with different days and times).

Pete

 

 

[d809dp]

Hi Pete,

Not actually my title, I'm afraid. What I am saying is that this file, AUTOSAVE FRI 073515-FLT.PNL, in this directory, C:\Program Files\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\QualityWings\QW787\PanelStates is not being deleted. It's only one file, but it doesn't seem to be deleted.

I think you're thinking along the right lines. I suspect the error is in the instruction I've created in the .ini file, but I'm not sure what it is.

Thanks,

Tom

[Pete Dowson]

3 hours ago, d809dp said:

What I am saying is that this file, AUTOSAVE FRI 073515-FLT.PNL, in this directory, C:\Program Files\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\QualityWings\QW787\PanelStates is not being deleted. It's only one file, but it doesn't seem to be deleted.

Aha! This is what you should have said in the first place! 😉
It isn't just "*.PNL", it is *-FLT.PNL" you need! The Autosave only fills in the AUTOSAVE FRI 073515 part. It cannot guess the bit you missed out!

Pete

 

[d809dp]

Hi Pete.

That's great - working like a dream - just like it says on the tin. I didn't realise how much of the file name was addon-specific. Maybe the (excellent) documentation could be added to on this point?

But again - thanks for your help - that's great support.

Cheers,

Tom