sflight Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Hi All, I have a strange problem that only the complex Just flight aircraft have & now with the VRS superbug F18 in P3d V3.4. I have two levers mapped as throttles, so I mapped throttle one to engine 1 & 3 and throttle two to engine 2 & 4. The inputs show a range from - 16384 to 16383, the output box shows - 4096 to 16383. Most aircraft the throttles seem to be fine, but some like Just flights Hawk, Tornado & Canberra and the VRS superbug F18 the throttles only come back half way & not to idle, the VRS F18 if I push the throttles to max on the controllers the sim throttles jump back to off & then won't move afterwards. I have attached my .ini just in case any errors are obvious. [General] UpdatedByVersion=4961 History=7JPFHZD74LMK3KJKJ81MJ InitDelayDevicesToo=No NewInterceptTextMenu=No UseSystemTime=No UseMidMouseBtn=Yes MouseWheelMove=No MouseWheelTrim=No MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1 JoystickTimeout=20 PollGFTQ6=Yes BlankDisplays=No FixControlAccel=No FixMachSpeedBug=No AutoScanDevices=Yes AssignJoystickIDs=Yes VisibilityOptions=No OneCloudLayer=No CloudTurbulence=No CloudIcing=No GenerateCirrus=No SuppressCloudTurbulence=No MaxIce=-4 MinIce=-4 UpperWindGusts=No SuppressWindTurbulence=No SuppressWindVariance=No WindTurbulence=No TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0 TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40 SuppressAllGusts=No MaxSurfaceWind=0 WindLimitLevel=200 WindDiscardLevel=400 WindAjustAltitude=No WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000 SmoothBySimTime=No WindSmoothing=No WindSmoothness=2 WindSmoothAirborneOnly=No PressureSmoothness=0 TemperatureSmoothness=0 DisconnTrimForAP=No ZeroElevForAPAlt=No ThrottleSyncAll=No WhiteMessages=No ShowPMcontrols=No SpoilerIncrement=512 MagicBattery=No RudderSpikeRemoval=No ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No AileronSpikeRemoval=No ReversedElevatorTrim=No ClockSync=No ClockSyncMins=5 ClearWeatherDynamics=No OwnWeatherChanges=No TimeForSelect=4 LoadFlightMenu=No LoadPlanMenu=No PauseAfterCrash=No BrakeReleaseThreshold=75 SaveDataWithFlights=No ZapSound=firework ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring UseProfiles=Yes EnableMouseLook=No DelayedMouseLookZoom=No AxesWrongRange=No TCASid=Flight TCASrange=40 AxisCalibration=No DirectAxesToCalibs=No ShowMultilineWindow=Yes SuppressSingleline=No SuppressMultilineFS=No AxisIntercepts=No DontResetAxes=No InitDelay=0 GetNearestAirports=Yes OOMcheck=Yes OOMcheckInterval=10 WeatherReadFactor=2 WeatherRewriteSeconds=1 CustomWeatherModify=No SimConnectStallTime=1 InitialStallTime=10 NormalStallTime=1 LuaRerunDelay=66 Console=No Annotate=Yes NewDeleteVehiclesForAES=No LogOptionProtect=Yes TimeForLuaClosing=1 WideLuaGlobals=Yes FSVersionUsed="Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v3",3.4.22.19868 SimConnectUsed=3.4.0.0 [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=No 0=Pro Flight Cessna Yoke 0.GUID={B2F46AA0-E931-11E5-8003-444553540000} 1=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals 1.GUID={B2F44390-E931-11E5-8001-444553540000} 2=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant 2.GUID={B2F491B0-E931-11E5-8004-444553540000} [Axes] PollInterval=10 RangeRepeatRate=10 0=0Z,256,D,6,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture }- 1=0U,128,D,9,11,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1, Throttle3 }- 2=0V,128,D,10,12,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2, Throttle4 }- 3=1Z,256,D,6,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture }- 4=1U,1,D,9,11,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1, Throttle3 }- 5=1V,1,D,10,12,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2, Throttle4 }- 6=2X,256,D,17,19,0,0 -{ DIRECT: PropPitch1, PropPitch3 }- 7=2Y,256,D,18,20,0,0 -{ DIRECT: PropPitch2, PropPitch4 }- 8=2Z,256 9=2Z,B,2176,16383,x02000BC8,x2768,x02000BC8,x0000 -{ Entering=offset word set, offset 0BC8, Leaving=offset word set, offset 0BC8 }- [Buttons] PollInterval=25 ButtonRepeat=20,10 1=R1,0,C1001,0 -{PTT Transmit On (SB3,RW,AVC)}- 2=U1,0,C1002,0 -{PTT Transmit Off (SB3,RW,AVC)}- 4=R0,11,C66276,0 -{AILERON_TRIM_LEFT}- 5=R0,12,C66277,0 -{AILERON_TRIM_RIGHT}- 6=U0,12,C3,0 -{Custom control: <3>}- [AutoSave] Next=1 Interval=60 Files=10 SaveOnGround=No AutoSaveEnabled=No [GPSout] GPSoutEnabled=Yes Port=WideFS Speed=4800 Interval=2000 PosTo6Decimal=No SimModeIndicator=No Sentences=RMC,GGA,GSA [GPSout2] GPSoutEnabled=No Port=<none set> Speed=4800 Interval=2000 PosTo6Decimal=No SimModeIndicator=No Sentences= [WideServer] WideFSenabled=Yes AdvertiseService=1 Port=8002 Port2=9002 [Sounds] Path=D:\Lockheed Martin\PREPAR3D V3.2\Sound\ Device1=Primary Sound Driver Device2=Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi) Device3=Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio) Device4=SPDIF Out (Creative SB X-Fi) Device5=Realtek Digital Output(Optical) (Realtek High Definition Audio) Device6=SONY TV-4 (NVIDIA High Definition Audio) Device7=Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio) [JoystickCalibration] AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Throttle1=-16384,-11442,-9882,16383 Throttle2=-16384,-11572,-9882,16383 Throttle3=-16384,-11442,-9882,16383 Throttle4=-16384,-11833,-9882,16383 Mixture=-16380,16380 PropPitch1=-16384,0,512,16383 PropPitch2=-16253,0,512,16383 PropPitch3=-16384,0,512,16383 PropPitch4=-16253,0,512,16383 SyncSlopeThrottle3=27/27 Aileron Trim=-16380,-512,512,16380 [Profile.hawk] 1=Hawk, RAF, 100 Sqn, RAF Leeming [JoystickCalibration.hawk] AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Mixture=-16380,16380 Throttle1=-16384,-11442,-11442,16256/32 Throttle2=-16384,-11572,-11572,16256/40 Throttle3=-16384,-11442,-11442,16256/40 Throttle4=-16384,-11572,-11572,16256/40 PropPitch1=0,0,512,16380 PropPitch2=0,0,512,16380 PropPitch3=0,0,512,16380 PropPitch4=0,0,512,16380 SyncSlopeThrottle2=127/127 SyncSlopeThrottle3=126/127 !1=SyncSlop [MacroFiles] 1=4X_DA20-100 [ClientNames] 1=HOME-PCAMD [Monitor] Monitor0=0,024C,4,0 Display=4 [Traffic Limiter] TrafficLimit=0 AirportPreference=50 GroundPreference=50 NearerPreference=50 [Profile.VRS F18] 1=VFA-137 "Kestrels" Line [JoystickCalibration.VRS F18] AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Mixture=-16380,16380 Throttle1=-16384,0,0,16383 Throttle2=-16384,0,0,16383 Throttle3=-16384,0,0,16383 SyncSlopeThrottle3=27/27 Throttle4=-16384,0,0,16383 PropPitch1=-16384,0,512,16383 PropPitch2=-16253,0,512,16383 PropPitch3=-16384,0,512,16383 PropPitch4=-16253,0,512,16383 Aileron Trim=-16380,-512,512,16380 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 3 hours ago, sflight said: The inputs show a range from - 16384 to 16383, the output box shows - 4096 to 16383. That's normal for a throttle axis on which you are using reverse too. -4096 is 25% reverse thrust which is the maxiumum allowed by more Aircraft.CFGs. This value might be reduced still further 9towards zero I mean) according to individual aircraft configurations. This is all done automatically by FSUIPC so that you get the full reverse range no matter what. If -4096 was the most reverse and aircraft could use, sending values less than that, down to -16384, would be a waste of axis movement. 3 hours ago, sflight said: Most aircraft the throttles seem to be fine, but some like Just flights Hawk, Tornado & Canberra and the VRS superbug F18 the throttles only come back half way & not to idle, You need to calibrate with no reverse zone then. If they do have a reverse you'd need to use a method allowed or provided by the aircraft model. 3 hours ago, sflight said: I have attached my .ini just in case any errors are obvious. [General] UpdatedByVersion=4961 The main error is that you are using a very old and completely unsupported version of FSUIPC4. Please always check such things before posting here. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sflight Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Ok, thanks Pete. I thought I had the most up-to-date version for P3D V3.4. I did try no reverse zone & that did put the output to zero and gave me even less throttle movement in the problem aircraft. I will update FSUIPC now. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 26 minutes ago, sflight said: I did try no reverse zone & that did put the output to zero and gave me even less throttle movement in the problem aircraft Setting NRZ mode should give you -16384 to +16384, but you probably need to assign to the Axis throttleN set FS controls, not assign direct to FSUIPC calibration. Some aircraft don't like the alternative controls FSUIPC then uses. But just try with the update first. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sflight Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Will do, updated now. I will report back how I get on. Thanks Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sflight Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Right its sorted. The update nor setting no reverse zone didn't cure it, sending the joystick data straight to the simulator instead of FSUIPC calibration did fix it. Thanks for your help Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 13 hours ago, sflight said: sending the joystick data straight to the simulator instead of FSUIPC calibration did fix it. Yes, there are just a few usually more advanced, add-on aircraft which need this. They handle everything themselves from a level hgher that that at which FSUIPC works. Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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