Help with my assignment in FSX and FSUICP4 - General Questio

[valentino18012002]

hi

can someone advise me

what is the procedure for axis and button assignment in FSUICP4 latest version

I tried to assign axis to engine 1 via control in FLUICP4 while the game is running since that is the only you can assign from the addon menu, nothing happens, plus when i move the quadrant to recognize axis , it only recognizes on for U nothing else, kept trying etc.

just in general can someone tell me how..... Do I go to fsx control and delete any assignement pertaining to the one i want to assign via FSUICP4 and then assign it from the addon menu? do I need to restart the flight sim for it to recognize it?

Most of the things i want to assign via FSUICP4 is not already assigned by FSX anyways......

The other issue i am having, is that the brakes button that is assigned in fsuicp4 won't work, it works via keyboard only.

I am using Saitek Flight SIM YOKE and Saitek Quadrant control and Saitek Newest rudder pedals.

thanks

[peterhayes]

Valentino,

Until PeteD gets back with a better explanation:

Try not to use Saitek SST software unless needed for specialist functions. (I'm not sure how this software interacts with FSUIPC)

I try to Assign as many axes and buttons as I can in FSX (I only use FSUIPC to assign axes/buttons that can't be assigned in FSX or are aircraft specific)

To assign axes correctly in FSUIPC check the manual around page 31

Make sure there are no duplicate axes and buttons in FSX - check all your controllers to make sure this hasn't happened!!

Make sure in FSX that the sensitivities are full right and null zone is full left for every axis.

Do not duplicate buttons or axes in FSX and FSUIPC ie assign in one and not the other.

Make sure that the brake's axes are reversed either in FSX or in FSUIPC calibration but NOT in both.

Calibrate in Windows

Fine tune (Calibrate) the axes in FSUIPC from the Addons menu when the sim has started - there is a guide for CH users above and it applies in very general terms to the Saitek controllers.

I have a similar set up to you and have no issues with any of the Saitek Controllers in FSX with FSUIPC.

Regards

PeterH

[valentino18012002]

I tried your suggestions did not work

I do not have SST, I made sure i did not install it since it interfered with FSX and FSUICP as well.

for some reason, i can't get the brakes to work on button 1

GIve me an example for instance as to how I can program say the mixture on the lever (Quadrant) in fsuicp

as i pull up the lever increase and decrease as I pull down

i also tried to program the engine 1, 2 etc, via FSUICP on the lever did not work as well. and I restarted the game too, no such luck

[peterhayes]

Valentino

You need to start by reading Pete Dowson's manual on how to assign axes - he puts it down in a very logical and easy to follow fashion.

This is a simple version for setting the mixture axis in FSUIPC

1. Unassign the mixture axis in FSX

2. Open FSX go to Addons FSUIPC

3. Choose axis assignment.

4. Move the levers on the throttle quadrant minutely - just helps with the rescan

5. Press "rescan" until no axis is showing.

6. Choose your lever for the mixture axis and move it up and down and the number of the joystick and the axis letter will show on the screen

7. Choose "Send to FS as normal axis and from the drop down box below choose "Mixture" or "Mixture 1" and so on

8. Repeat 5 to 8 for all axes.

9. Move on to Axis Calibration and calibrate

If all has gone well you should see an entry in the FSUIPC.ini under Axes:[\FSX\Modules\FSUIPC.ini]

[Axes.]

0=0X,256,D,7,0,0,0

1=0Y,256,D,8,0,0,0

2=0R,256,D,3,0,0,0

3=1X,256,D,9,0,0,0

4=1Y,256,D,10,0,0,0

5=1Z,256,D,17,0,0,0

6=1R,256,D,18,0,0,0

7=1U,256,D,13,0,0,0

8=1V,256,D,14,0,0,0

9=2X,256,D,1,0,0,0

10=2Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

11=2Z,256,D,22,0,0,0

12=2U,256,D,29,0,0,0

or similar

and under "Joystick Calibration" you should see:

Mixture1=-16384,-14433,-11833,16383

Mixture2=-16384,-14693,-11572,16254

or similar eg just Mixture if only one axis is assigned to the mixture

Buttons are assigned as per PeteD's manual

Also please read John Cook's guide "sticky" above, although its about the CH products the general principles apply.

Regards

PeterH

[valentino18012002]

i hate to bother you again, I read the manual inside out many times and it is very very very confusing

this is what i want to do and can you walk me through each step if you dont mind.

I just also purchase a second Saitek Quadrant so now i have 2 Saitek Quadrant and the flight sim yoke by saitek.

When I program the key . period in FSUIC4 and hit the period, i dont see the period, i see nothing.

i programmed the period for brakes and it seems the brakes are always on and i cannot release them. I unassigned the brakes from FSX as well.

Second, I want to program two throttles with the quadrant levers and also with those quadrants i want reverse thrust, as you know when you move it all the way back you should get reverse thrust, how do I do that????

Third, I want to program one lever for spoiler and other one for flaps as you increase and decrease incrementally on the lever the flaps would extend and retract incrementally.

Fourth, I want to program button for engine 1 and engine 2 to start and shut off each one individually using the lever and or the buttons

finally mixutres, i want to prgram that to one of the lever.

Keep in mind I deassigned all of those in FSX and the manual is so so confusing, i tried them many times

thank you

[bankheadd]

Valentino

Have you had any luck with calibrating your sailtek gear? I'm in the same boat with you bro. I have two throttle quadrants, rudders and yoke I read the FSUICP3 and John Cooks write up and I just confussed myself. I am working with FS9, but I also have the fsx version as well. I just decided to stick with fs9 because of all my payware I have. Like you I want to calibrate my throttles for a 777 and 747 set my REV. But I'm missing something or doing something wrong. If you figure it out let me know. Also if you like we can exchange ph# and maybe we can figure it faster this way. It's an option. I'm just so pissed I can't use this gear I've been wanting for awhile now. As amatter of fact I pulled all my saitek off and added my MS FORCE FEEDBACK2 till I figure this out. :x

[peterhayes]

Valentino

I'm sorry that you are still having issues, but if you follow what I have said above and PeteD's excellent manuals you should be able to set things up to your satisfaction.

I am a little perplexed that you want to assign a brake key in FSUIPC? Why not assign it in FS9/X - it is there as a default assignment that works very well. I can't see any advantage in assigning it in FSUIPC. Is there a particular reason for doing that? This is what PeteD says about keys: "Normally you will assign keys to Flight Sim operations in the Options–Controls-Assignments dialogue in FS itself, or possibly by directly editing the FS CFG file."

However this is a step by step guide for entering the period key in FSUIPC (not assigned in FS9) (this is an FS9 example but its the same in FSX):

1. Open FS9/FSX - then choose Addons Menu - FSUIPC

2. Choose the "Key Settings Tab" Choose aircraft specific if it is for a particular aircraft or leave unticked if universal.

3. Press the Set button in the left hand panel.

4. The edit box displays ― "PRESS KEY".

5. Press the "period" (".") key and you will see it displayed in the edit box as ".>" in place of "Press Key"

6. Now go to the "Control sent when keys pressed" drop down box and choose "Brakes" from the list.

7. You do not need any parameters unless you want to do something special and you do not need to enter anything in "Control sent when main key released".

7. Press "Confirm" at the bottom the box the confirmation appears on the right side of the box - and that's it

8. Press OK and its locked into FSUIPC.

9. Back in the SIM press "." and the brakes text appears bottom left - let go of "." key and the brakes come off.

Hope this helps

PeterH

[valentino18012002]

hi again, this is crazy

here is what I had done as an example, i wanted to use button 1 for brakes, i unassigned it in fsx and in FSUICP4 i did buttons

under press, i pressed button 1 and did brakes in the control sent when button is pressed.

when i am on the runway, it looks like the brakes are still on and it won't release when i press the button. not working.

what am I doing wrong, i have spent way too much time to try to program this and still no luck

[Pete Dowson]

here is what I had done as an example, i wanted to use button 1 for brakes, i unassigned it in fsx and in FSUICP4 i did buttons under press, i pressed button 1 and did brakes in the control sent when button is pressed.

when i am on the runway, it looks like the brakes are still on and it won't release when i press the button. not working.

Assigning a button to just "Brakes" in FSUIPC is identical to assigning it to BRAKES in FS -- there's no advantage or difference. You'd want to set the "repeat" option, otherwise hold it down won't keep the brakes on. The "BRAKES" control is exactly the one used by the default "." keyboard assignment, but of course keys auto-repeat on the keyboard.

Pete

[valentino18012002]

pete i am really sorry to say that following the manual is very confusing I have looked at it many many times

can you help me set up the following actions and give me step by step instructions as to how to do it:

I promise once i get this working, I won't have to bother you with posts etc.

I have flight Sim Yoke by saitek, and Two quadrants

I want to assign Throttle 1 axis to engine 1 and throttle 2 axis to engine 2 on the saitek quadrant and within these levers when i pull the lever way back i want reverse thrust, this way i can fly the cessna with one engine or a jumbo jet with two engines and do reverse thrust when I land.

Secondly, I want to assign Flaps where I can increase slowly (Incrementally) or decrease on the saitek quadrant lever. (One lever)

Third, I want to assign spoiler to one of the levers when I land, i can pull the spoilers on the jet.

Fourth, I want to assign mixture for engine 1 and engine 2 on the saitek quadrant by utilizing two levers.

Thank you

I promise this would be my last request.

[Pete Dowson]

I want to assign Throttle 1 axis to engine 1 and throttle 2 axis to engine 2 on the saitek quadrant

Do that in FS's assignments first. Test them and make sure they work before even looking at FSUIPC.

and within these levers when i pull the lever way back i want reverse thrust

Once the throttles are working normally in FS, go to FSUIPC, Joystick Calibrations, and find the page showing 4 throttles. Calibrate each ofg the two, one at a time, following the simple steps in the User guide. The "centre" is your idle.

Secondly, I want to assign Flaps where I can increase slowly (Incrementally) or decrease on the saitek quadrant lever. (One lever)

Assign the flaps in FS, then refer to the long explanatory section in the FSUIPC user guide for programming notches, if that's what you want. If you don't want notches then you don't need to do anything special.

Third, I want to assign spoiler to one of the levers when I land, i can pull the spoilers on the jet.

Fourth, I want to assign mixture for engine 1 and engine 2 on the saitek quadrant by utilizing two levers.

Those are all easy to assign in FS.

What is the problem? If you have specific problems, state them.

Regards

Pete

[valentino18012002]

Pete, you start by giving me the steps that you revert back to saying refer to manual.

The Manual is very confusing, I followed your steps and still not working. Even the calibration withing FSUICP4 was so confusing and I read and reread the manual.

here is what I want to do

I want to assign Engine 1, 2 to one lever for throttle while at same time have reverse thrust when I land.

I want to assign engine 3 & 4 to another lever for throttle while at same time haver reverse thrust when I land.

I will make those general this way if i fly the cessan, i can use only one lever, that should work right? or should I make it aircraft specific.

Please give me each step by step instructions, I tried to follow the steps in manual, could not get to work.

Finally, I want to assign the flaps so that I can increase or decrease slowly by each degree inrement.

same thing with mixture, I want to assign Mixture 1 to engine 1&2 and Mixture 2 for engine 2&3

I have two saitek quadrants.

Thank you

[Pete Dowson]

Pete, you start by giving me the steps that you revert back to saying refer to manual. The Manual is very confusing

I'm very sorry, but it is the best I can do using the feedback folks provide. It has evolved over the 8 year life of FSUIPC and there are thousands of users who seem to get by.

I can only improve the manual by responding to specific pointers from users as to what and where they find "confusing". If you would care to provide more details maybe I can do this, but I cannot explain more otherwise.

I want to assign Engine 1, 2 to one lever for throttle while at same time have reverse thrust when I land. I want to assign engine 3 & 4 to another lever for throttle while at same time haver reverse thrust when I land.

So what is wrong with this paragraph in the User Guide which covers this exactrly:

If you have twin throttle levers and you’d like to control left wing engines and right wing engines separately on both 2 and 4-engined places, then make sure both throttles are operating correctly with twin planes then go to the third page of the Joystick controls in FSUIPC, the one showing 4 throttles. Calibrate throttles 1 and 2 then check the option “Map 1->12, 2->34”. This will do the job. The mapping only occurs when a 4-engined aircraft is loaded. This facility also applies to the mixture and propeller pitch levers.

I will make those general this way if i fly the cessan, i can use only one lever, that should work right? or should I make it aircraft specific.

Since calibrating a throttle lever with a reverse zone would waste that zone when used on a Cessna (which has no reverse, you know), it would naturally be better to have aircraft-specific calibrations. But if you don't mind part of the movement being wasted it doesn't matter. It is entirely your choice.

Please give me each step by step instructions, I tried to follow the steps in manual, could not get to work.

You are doing it wrong, then. I cannot give step by step instructions better than I have or I would have done.

If you cannot be more specific about what you actually don't understand I'm afraid I cannot help you.

Finally, I want to assign the flaps so that I can increase or decrease slowly by each degree inrement.

There is no such thing as a degree-by-degree adjustment on flaps. you need to learn more about aircraft. Flaps are set at specific increments or angular values.

same thing with mixture, I want to assign Mixture 1 to engine 1&2 and Mixture 2 for engine 2&3

Yes, as the paragraph I quote above says.

Pete

[valentino18012002]

Pete i am almost there programming these things.

Here is the issue i am having specifically:

Keep in mind, any programming done in FSUICP4 is disabled in FSX

I assigned One Lever to an axis - Axis Throttle 1 Set and axis throttle 4 Set within the axis assigment by checking send to FS directly and selecting two throttles to one lever.

I also assigned another lever to an axis - Axis Throttle 2 set and Axis throttle 3 set to another lever. So now I have 4 throttles assigned in FSUIPC4 and is aircraft specific to the 747 Jet.

I went into calibration tab and clicked on set for all 4 throttles and I moved the levers and they seemed correlated okay.

One lever moves engine 1&4 the other Engine 2&3.

However, am I missing something, in the cockpit, i move lever One, and throttle 1&4 move okay, when I moved lever one back to full power reduction and move lever 2 (WHishc is throttle 2&3) it also moves with it throttle 1 & 4 too, not just 2&3.

Finally, I am not getting reverse thrust when i pull back on both levers. Where would I make this work?

Same issue as above for Mixture for engine 1&4, and Engine 2&3.

Last question, I also programmed the flaps correctly and went into the calibration tab and clicked on set. I have to move the lever 50% in order to get 1 degree of flap, and 75% to get 5 degree of flaps, instead of getting 1 degree, 5 degree, 10 degree, 20 etc as I move the lever. again, what am I doing wrong?

Thank you so much.

Regards,

[Pete Dowson]

I assigned One Lever to an axis - Axis Throttle 1 Set and axis throttle 4 Set within the axis assigment by checking send to FS directly and selecting two throttles to one lever.

Why? Why would you want to control out and inner engines separately? you lose all the advantage of having two throttle levers -- being able to have asymmetric thrust for tight cornering during taxi or to cope with engine failure).

The normal way is simply to assign Throttle 1 to Throttle 1 and Throttle 2 to Throttle 2 (so working for 1 and 2 engined planes, then in the 4-throttles calibration page check the option for 1->12 and 2->34.

However, am I missing something, in the cockpit, i move lever One, and throttle 1&4 move okay, when I moved lever one back to full power reduction and move lever 2 (WHishc is throttle 2&3) it also moves with it throttle 1 & 4 too, not just 2&3. Finally, I am not getting reverse thrust when i pull back on both levers. Where would I make this work?

You have to CALIBRATE the throttles, all 4 of them the way you've assigned them (but only 1 and 2 the way I suggest above, the more normal way). You say "I went into calibration tab and clicked on set for all 4 throttles and I moved the levers and they seemed correlated okay.", which is NOT calibration! After pressing "Set" to ENABLE calibration, you then go through the CALIBRATION process -- follow the STEPS in the User Guide!

Last question, I also programmed the flaps correctly and went into the calibration tab and clicked on set. I have to move the lever 50% in order to get 1 degree of flap, and 75% to get 5 degree of flaps, instead of getting 1 degree, 5 degree, 10 degree, 20 etc as I move the lever. again, what am I doing wrong?

You simply are not calibrating anything! Please please please follow the numbered steps in the User Guide to calibrate EVERY axis. Otherwise you might as well discard FSUIPC and go use FS.

:-(

Pete

[Daniel Delande]

Hi Pete,

Problem with Windows XP, FSX SP1, FSUIPC 4.20.

I have 2 levers for throttles, 2 levers for prop controls, and 2 levers for mixture controls.

I have checked the 3 relevant options Map 1->12, 2->34.

Flying a 4-engine aircraft (connie), throttles and props work OK, but mixture controls work as follows:

- lever 1 controls mixtures 1, 2 & 4.

- lever 2 controls mixtures 2 & 4.

Of course, I have assigned, in FSX, lever 1 to mixture 1, and lever 2 to mixture 2.

I have been using this feature with no problem for years, presumably there is a problem since a recent version of FSUIPC.

Before I had a severe PC crash, I was running FSUIPC 4.10 and I had not noticed this issue.

By the way, when I re-installed Windows and FSX from scratch, I met the SimConnect/ZoneAlarm blue screen problem, so you now have a second "Problem Type 3" reported; note that I do confirm that it is a SimConnect problem, not a FSUIPC-specific one, for I got also blue screens when my home-made module connected to SimConnect.

Best regards,

Daniel Delande

[Pete Dowson]

Problem with Windows XP, FSX SP1, FSUIPC 4.20.

Please re-test with the current interim version, from the FSX Downloads above.

I have 2 levers for throttles, 2 levers for prop controls, and 2 levers for mixture controls.

I have checked the 3 relevant options Map 1->12, 2->34.

Flying a 4-engine aircraft (connie), throttles and props work OK, but mixture controls work as follows:

- lever 1 controls mixtures 1, 2 & 4.

- lever 2 controls mixtures 2 & 4.

Also check that you do not have any double assignments. Let me know after you've tested with the latest version, and then please also show me the [JoystickCalibration] section from your FSUIPC4.INI file (and the [Axes] section if used).

Regards

Pete

[valentino18012002]

pete

I assigned throttleset 1&2 and 3&4 axis throttle to lever one and lever 2

If i do the mapping in joystick calibration as you suggest, and I move one lever, it will move three engines.

so, ignoring the mapping i calibrated the joystick

when I move lever 2 throttle, engine 3 & 4 moves wihting the cockpit in fsx

when I move lever 1 throttle, engine 1&2 moves but also makes engine 3 and 4 move with it.

i am not able to make engine 1&2 move only within fsx. In looking at the calibration, when I move lever 1, engine 1&2 move, and lever 2 enginer 3&4 move.

also, i am not able to get reverse thrust what so ever. And if I want to back up the jet, and want to use reverse I am unable

below is the ini file

[General]

History=1M2T0Z5ZGD8AKLW1EA4P4

GraduatedVisibility=No

LowerVisAltitude=0

UpperVisAltitude=0

UpperVisibility=0

MinimumVisibility=0

MaximumVisibilityFewClouds=0

MaximumVisibility=0

MaximumVisibilityOvercast=0

MaximumVisibilityRainy=0

SetVisUpperAlt=No

VisUpperAltLimit=0

ExtendMetarMaxVis=No

OneCloudLayer=No

CloudTurbulence=No

CloudIcing=No

GenerateCirrus=No

SuppressCloudTurbulence=No

MaxIce=-4

MinIce=-4

UpperWindGusts=No

SuppressWindTurbulence=No

WindTurbulence=No

SuppressAllGusts=No

MaxSurfaceWind=0

WindLimitLevel=200

WindDiscardLevel=400

WindAjustAltitude=No

WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000

WindSmoothing=No

WindSmoothness=2

WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes

DisconnTrimForAP=No

ZeroElevForAPAlt=No

ThrottleSyncAll=No

WhiteMessages=No

ShowPMcontrols=No

SpoilerIncrement=512

MagicBattery=No

RudderSpikeRemoval=No

ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No

AileronSpikeRemoval=No

ReversedElevatorTrim=No

ClockSync=No

ClockSyncMins=5

ClearWeatherDynamics=No

FixWindows=No

OwnWeatherChanges=No

TimeForSelect=4

LoadFlightMenu=No

LoadPlanMenu=No

PauseAfterCrash=No

ZapSound=firework

ShortAircraftNameOk=No

TCASid=Flight

TCASrange=40

AxisCalibration=No

DirectAxesToCalibs=No

ShowMultilineWindow=Yes

SuppressSingleline=No

SuppressMultilineFS=No

AxisIntercepts=No

WeatherReadFactor=2

WeatherRewriteDelay=10

ProcessGlobalWeather=No

SimConnectStallTime=1

[AutoSave]

AutoSaveEnabled=No

[GPSout]

GPSoutEnabled=No

Port=

Speed=4800

Interval=1000

PosTo6Decimal=Yes

Sentences=

[WideServer]

WideFSenabled=Yes

[Axes]

0=0V,256,F,66292,0,0,0

1=3Y,256,F,66534,0,0,0

2=3Z,256,F,66382,0,0,0

[JoystickCalibration]

ExclThrottleSet=No

SepRevsJetsOnly=No

ApplyHeloTrim=No

FlapsSetControl=0

FlapDetents=No

ReverserControl=66292

Reverser1Control=66422

Reverser2Control=66425

Reverser3Control=66428

Reverser4Control=66431

MaxThrottleForReverser=256

AileronTrimControl=66731

RudderTrimControl=66732

CowlFlaps1Control=66162

CowlFlaps2Control=66163

CowlFlaps3Control=66164

CowlFlaps4Control=66165

SteeringTillerControl=0

MaxSteerSpeed=60

Spoilers=-16380,16380

Mixture1=0,8192,8192,16380

Throttle1=-16380,-512,512,16380/16

Throttle2=-16380,-512,512,16380/16

Throttle3=-16380,-512,512,16380/16

Throttle4=-16380,-512,512,16380/16

[buttons]

4=P0,0,C65588,0

[Axes.Boeing 747-400 Paint5]

0=0Z,256,F,66420,66423,0,0

1=0U,256,F,66426,66429,0,0

2=0V,256,F,66422,66425,0,0

3=1Y,256,F,66292,66431,0,0

4=3X,256,F,66428,66431,0,0

5=3Y,256,F,66534,0,0,0

6=3Z,256,F,66382,0,0,0

[JoystickCalibration.Boeing 747-400 Paint5]

ExclThrottleSet=No

SepRevsJetsOnly=Yes

ApplyHeloTrim=No

FlapsSetControl=0

FlapDetents=No

ReverserControl=66292

Reverser1Control=66422

Reverser2Control=66425

Reverser3Control=66428

Reverser4Control=66431

MaxThrottleForReverser=256

AileronTrimControl=66731

RudderTrimControl=66732

CowlFlaps1Control=66162

CowlFlaps2Control=66163

CowlFlaps3Control=66164

CowlFlaps4Control=66165

SteeringTillerControl=0

MaxSteerSpeed=60

Mixture1=0,8192,8192,16380

Mixture2=0,8192,8192,16380

Spoilers=-16380,16380

Flaps=0,16380

Reverser=-16380,16380

MapCowl1to1234=Yes

MapCowl12to34=Yes

Throttle1=-16380,-512,512,16380

Throttle2=-16380,-512,512,16380

Throttle3=-16380,-512,512,16380

Mixture3=0,8192,8192,16380

Mixture4=0,8192,8192,16380

Throttle4=-16380,-512,512,16380

[Keys]

1=190,8,65588,0

[Axes.Cessna Skyhawk 172SP G1000]

0=0Z,256,F,66420,66423,0,0

1=0U,256,F,66426,66429,0,0

2=0V,256,F,66292,0,0,0

3=3Y,256,F,66534,0,0,0

4=3Z,256,F,66382,0,0,0

[JoystickCalibration.Cessna Skyhawk 172SP G1000]

ExclThrottleSet=No

SepRevsJetsOnly=No

ApplyHeloTrim=No

MapThr12to34=Yes

MapThr12to123=Yes

FlapsSetControl=0

FlapDetents=No

ReverserControl=66292

Reverser1Control=66422

Reverser2Control=66425

Reverser3Control=66428

Reverser4Control=66431

MaxThrottleForReverser=256

AileronTrimControl=66731

RudderTrimControl=66732

CowlFlaps1Control=66162

CowlFlaps2Control=66163

CowlFlaps3Control=66164

CowlFlaps4Control=66165

SteeringTillerControl=0

MaxSteerSpeed=60

Throttle=-16380,16380

Throttle1=-16384,-15343,-512,16383

Throttle2=-16384,-15213,-512,16383

Mixture1=0,8192,8192,16380

Spoilers=-16380,16380

[Daniel Delande]

Thank you for answering, Pete,

Please re-test with the current interim version, from the FSX Downloads above.

I tested version 4.212 that behaves the same, regardless whether 'Exclude MIXTUREn SET' is checked or not.

Also check that you do not have any double assignments.

Checked.

then please also show me the [JoystickCalibration] section from your FSUIPC4.INI file (and the [Axes] section if used).

• [JoystickCalibration]
  SepRevsJetsOnly=No
  ApplyHeloTrim=No
  FlapsSetControl=0
  FlapDetents=No
  ReverserControl=66292
  Reverser1Control=66422
  Reverser2Control=66425
  Reverser3Control=66428
  Reverser4Control=66431
  MaxThrottleForReverser=256
  AileronTrimControl=66731
  RudderTrimControl=66732
  CowlFlaps1Control=66162
  CowlFlaps2Control=66163
  CowlFlaps3Control=66164
  CowlFlaps4Control=66165
  SteeringTillerControl=0
  MaxSteerSpeed=60
  LeftBrake=-7810,10774/16
  RightBrake=-7683,11807/16
  MapThr12to34=Yes
  MapProp12to34=Yes
  Throttle1=-15224,-12386,-9806,14478
  Throttle2=-13805,-11741,-8515,14859
  PropPitch1=-12902,-10580,-7097,14732
  PropPitch2=-12644,-9419,-5935,15621
  Spoilers=-13970,-13335,-9271,-508
  MapMix12to34=Yes
  ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes
  ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes
  ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes

No '[Axes]' section.

I reverted to version 4.10 and I confirm that mixture controls work OK.

Regards,

Daniel Delande

[Pete Dowson]

I reverted to version 4.10 and I confirm that mixture controls work OK.

4.212 works perfectly in this regard, I have just re-tested it here. The problem you have, I believe, is simply that whilst you have told FSUIPC to calibrate your Throttles and your Pitch axes, you have not yet done so for your Mixture controls! This can be clearly seen from the state of your INI file.

The changes in 4.16 or so mean that axes are not intercepted and "stopped" by FSUIPC unless calibrated -- this was a deliberate change to prevent problems with some add-on aircraft.

For any of FSUIPC's axes facilities to work you need to, at minimum, press the top left "Set" button in the relevant section (so that it now reads "Reset") -- you need to do that for mixture 1 and Mixture 2 on the 4 mixture page. Best to calibrate too whilst you are there!

Regards

Pete

[Daniel Delande]

Solved!

Thank you, Pete.

Daniel Delande

[valentino18012002]

pete

did you get a chance to look at my fsuipc4 ini file.

is there something i can tweak within the file to make everything work?

Please let me know

I would be curious if anyone is doing the same settings as mine, maybe i can use their ini file and overwrite mine so that I can use it on a 4 engine plane

with two throttle, two mixtures, reverse throttle,

[Pete Dowson]

pete

did you get a chance to look at my fsuipc4 ini file.

Ah, I thought all that was answered by the subsequent additions to the thread. I must admit to thinking it was all one, but I see now that there are at least two threads in one here.

I assigned throttleset 1&2 and 3&4 axis throttle to lever one and lever 2

If i do the mapping in joystick calibration as you suggest, and I move one lever, it will move three engines.

so, ignoring the mapping i calibrated the joystick

when I move lever 2 throttle, engine 3 & 4 moves wihting the cockpit in fsx

when I move lever 1 throttle, engine 1&2 moves but also makes engine 3 and 4 move with it.

Looking at your INI settings, you seem to have a default set of Axis assignments in FSUIPC4 consisting of

0=0V,256,F,66292,0,0,0

1=3Y,256,F,66534,0,0,0

2=3Z,256,F,66382,0,0,0

which is a rather odd selection. You have an Axis Mixture Set on 0V, an Axis Flaps Set on 3Y and an Axis Spoiler Set on 3Z. No aileron, no elevator, no throttles?

I assume you aren't using any aircraft other than the "Boeing 747-400 Paint5"? Because that's the only one with enough axis assignments.

Before looking at those, may I ask why you are assigning in FSUIPC? Usually it is easier to do so in FS itself. It is a little more efficient in FSUIPC, but it does mean you have to make sure there are no similar assignments in FS -- have you done that? Try disabling the joystick altogether in FSX. (I can't tell what you've done in FS from here).

Your "Boeing 747-400 Paint5" axis assignments in FSUIPC4 are:

0=0Z,256,F,66420,66423,0,0 Axis throttle1 Set and Axis Throttle2 Set

1=0U,256,F,66426,66429,0,0 Axis Throttle3 Set and Axis Throttle4 Set

2=0V,256,F,66422,66425,0,0 Axis Mxture1 Set and Axis Mixture2 Set

3=1Y,256,F,66292,66431,0,0 Axis Mixture Set and Axis Mixture4 Set

4=3X,256,F,66428,66431,0,0 Axis Mixture3 Set and Axis Mixture4 Set

5=3Y,256,F,66534,0,0,0 Axis Flaps Set

6=3Z,256,F,66382,0,0,0 Axis Spoiler Set

Now this is a mess. To start with, why assign multiple throttles and mixtures to the axes when you can get FSUIPC to Map them in the calibration dialogues. It is no wonder you are in a mess. The calibration is receiving Throttle 1 and 2 signals every time you move that axis, and you are mapping Throttle 2 to 3 and 4! Don't you see how illogical that it?

And the Mixture assignments are a mess in any case. Your mixture1 lever is assigned both to "all levers" and Mixture 4, and your mixture 2 lever to 3 and 4 also. Weird! You should really LOOK at the screen when assigning things, make sure you assign what you want.

I suggest you DELETE all the [Axes..] sections for you INI file, and go assign your levers as normal in FSX. You are don't want to mess with more advanced things which you don't understand.

Assign yout Throttle 1 lever to Throttle 1, your Throttle 2 lever to Throttle 2, and the same for mixture and so on. Use the standard FSX assignments.

Check that they all work on a 2-engined aircraft.

Then and only then go into FSUIPC4's Joystick calibration, go to the page with 4 throttles, calibrate both Throttle 1 and Throttle 2, separately, and check the "Map 1->12, 2->34" option in the lower right.

You can do the same for Mixture and Prop Pitch if you like.

That's it. On a two engined plane you have Throttle 1 and Throttle 2 operating their respective engines, and on a 4-engined place you have engines 1 and 2 on throttle 1 and engines 3 and 4 on Throttle 2.

Surely this is MUCH simpler that whatever weird scheme you've been trying to accomplish?

BTW looking at the Calibration section of your INI file:

Mixture1=0,8192,8192,16380

Mixture2=0,8192,8192,16380

Spoilers=-16380,16380

Flaps=0,16380

Reverser=-16380,16380

Throttle1=-16380,-512,512,16380

Throttle2=-16380,-512,512,16380

Throttle3=-16380,-512,512,16380

Mixture3=0,8192,8192,16380

Mixture4=0,8192,8192,16380

Throttle4=-16380,-512,512,16380

These are ALL defalut values! They cannot possible all be correct for your joystick. I've never seen a joystick which gives exact values as assumed by default. You evidently have not even attempted to calibrate any of your axes at all! :-(

Please make sure you not only assign things properly, more carefully especially, but also always go through the calibration steps. They are outlined very clearly. you cannot possibly misunderstand any of the simple steps!

Get it working before even thinking about anything else. If you then seriously want to use FSUIPC4 assignments instead of FSX it would be best to disable the joystick altogether in FSAX and assign everything in FSUIPC4. But use one control per axis - the facility for multiple controls on each axis is not what you need. Also you can use the "Direct to FSUIPC calibration" instead of the FS controls, which will be more efficient. You may have to re-calibrate if you do that.

Regards

Pete