clive6354 Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 Hello I am trying to configure FS2004 to run on one computer and SquawkBox on a seperate computer. I am experiencing several problems hopefully that I will resolve step by step. However, before I begin to problem solve I have a question to ask, which may save me a lot of time and patience The two computers that I am tryimg to run FS2004 and SQUAWKBOX one is running Windows XP and the other Windows 7. Does this matter or do the operating systems have to be the same? Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSkorna Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Hi, Different operating systems are OK, but we are learning that the same Workgroup name must be used. Win 7 by default uses a different name, but this can be changed in Win 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive6354 Posted March 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 I am having problems setting up FS2004 with SquawkBox on two seperate computers, I need help and advice. I have a registered copy of FSUPIC and WIDEFS, WIDEFS is installed on both computers When I run FS2004 it says "waiting for clients" When I run WideClient on the scond computer it says "waiting for connection" Do I have to edit the Wideclient.ini file? (to locate Squarkwbox) Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 When I run FS2004 it says "waiting for clients" When I run WideClient on the scond computer it says "waiting for connection" Do I have to edit the Wideclient.ini file? (to locate Squarkwbox) No. WideFS doesn't "locate Squawkbox". You shouldn't need to edit anything in any INI file in order to get WideClient connecting. The usual reasons for it not connecting automatically are: 1. The two computers being on different WorkGroups. This is happening more these days because Vista and Win7 have different default WorkGroup names to XP. You should put all your PCs into the same workgroup, but otherwise you can edit the WideClient.INI as described in the user guide, to allow use on more than one workgroup. 2. There's a firewall blocking the connectoin at one end or the other. 3. You have other problems with your Network. I may be able to advise a little more if you find the WideServer and WideClient log files and pasted them here. These logs are produced for a reason -- to show you and I what is going on. I can't advise on Squawkbox. That's a different package which I don't know. Regards Pete Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive6354 Posted March 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Hello Pete This is the text of the log files ********* WideClient Log [version 6.78] Class=FS98MAIN ********* Date (dmy): 23/03/10, Time 12:33:12.883: Client name is ANGELA-PC 1373 Attempting to connect now 2387 Trying to locate server: Need details from Server Broadcast 2387 Failed to connect: waiting to try again 4430 Attempting to connect now 69654 Trying to locate server: Need details from Server Broadcast 5732350 ****** End of session performance summary ****** 5732350 Total time connected = 0 seconds 5732350 Reception maximum: 0 frames/sec, 0 bytes/sec 5732350 Transmission maximum: 0 frames/sec, 0 bytes/sec 5732350 Max receive buffer = 0, Max send depth = 0, Send frames lost = 0 5732350 ********* Log file closed (Buffers: MaxUsed 0, Alloc 0 Freed 0 Refused 0) ********* ********* WideClient Log [version 6.78] Class=FS98MAIN ********* Date (dmy): 23/03/10, Time 14:12:37.725: Client name is ANGELA-PC 1373 Attempting to connect now 1388 Trying TCP/IP host "IPAddr=192.168.1.2" port 8002 ... 1388 Error on client gethostbyname() [Error=11004] Valid name, no data record of requested type 61839 Trying TCP/IP host "IPAddr=192.168.1.2" port 8002 ... 61839 Error on client gethostbyname() [Error=11004] Valid name, no data record of requested type 122305 Trying TCP/IP host "IPAddr=192.168.1.2" port 8002 ... 122305 Error on client gethostbyname() [Error=11004] Valid name, no data record of requested type 182771 Trying TCP/IP host "IPAddr=192.168.1.2" port 8002 ... 182771 Error on client gethostbyname() [Error=11004] Valid name, no data record of requested type 226607 ****** End of session performance summary ****** 226607 Total time connected = 0 seconds 226607 Reception maximum: 0 frames/sec, 0 bytes/sec 226607 Transmission maximum: 0 frames/sec, 0 bytes/sec 226607 Max receive buffer = 0, Max send depth = 0, Send frames lost = 0 226607 ********* Log file closed (Buffers: MaxUsed 0, Alloc 0 Freed 0 Refused 0) ********* I am sorry if I appear dense at the moment I have been ill and just recovering I am reading manual regarding WorkGroups The computer running FS2004 is using windows XP The computer running Squawkbox is using Windows 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 HThis is the text of the log files They are both WideClient logs. The WideServer log is the other half of the story -- it'll be in the same folder as FSUIPC, i.e. the FS Modules folder. Oddly the two logs you showed are from two different configurations in WideClient.INI, so it looks like you've been trying something. Care to explain? 2387 Trying to locate server: Need details from Server Broadcast This, from the first, indicates the two PCs are either on different WorkGroups, as I suggested, or simply not talking to each other at all. 1388 Trying TCP/IP host "IPAddr=192.168.1.2" port 8002 ... 1388 Error on client gethostbyname() [Error=11004] Valid name, no data record of requested type whilst the second one, from a couple of hours later seems to show that you've added the "ServerIPAddr" parameter with 192.168.1.2 as the server IP, but windows is finding this to be an invalid IP address, not referring to any PC it can see. I am reading manual regarding WorkGroupsThe computer running FS2004 is using windows XP The computer running Squawkbox is using Windows 7 Just change the Workgroup in one or both so they are the same. i use "PETES" as my workgroup name. You can change the workgroup name in the same place as you change the computer name -- the Properties of "My computer" (right click and select properties). Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive6354 Posted March 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 This is the file from the Modules folder ********* WideServer.DLL Log [version 6.78] ********* Blocksize guide = 4096 (double allowed) Date (dmy): 23/03/10, Time 15:13:52.312: Server name is CLIVE-12B4CE4BA 44531 Initialising TCP/IP server 44531 Initialising IPX/SPX server 44546 IPX/SPX socket() failed [Error=10047] Address family not supported by protocol family 44546 Failed to start IPX/SPX Server 44546 Initialising UDP/IP server 44781 Broadcasting service every 1000 mSecs 55843 Restarting service due to total lack of use 55843 Failed to start IPX/SPX Server both computers now have the Workgroup name as WORKGROUPS Is it OK that the computer names are different?? When I run WideClient, why does show "FS98 Eliminator"? is this OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 This is the file from the Modules folder Okay, that simply shows that the client didn't see the Server. both computers now have the Workgroup name as WORKGROUPS Are you sure it's "WORKGROUPS" and not "WORKGROUP"? I think the default name like that was in the singular. And also now remove the ServerIPAddr, ServerName and Protocol parameters, if you put them all in, from the wideclient.INI file. Is it OK that the computer names are different?? Yes, of course. They must be different else they wouldn't be differentiated. When I run WideClient, why does show "FS98 Eliminator"? is this OK? Yes. That's what WideClient is. When linked to WideServer in any version of FS, it presents the FS98-compatible application interface which has been maintained and extended now for 12 years, without the need for FS98 to be installed on that PC. ;-) Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive6354 Posted March 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Hello Pete The name was WORKGROUP I have amended the Wideclient.ini files on both computers as instructed. There is still no recognised connection between the two computers I ran Squawkbox on my second computer (no FS2004) it says FSUIPC error cannot run without flight simulator running When i installed Squawkbox on the second computer I did select the correct installation (only Squawkbox to run on second computer What shall I try next??? sorry if I am a pain and thick ( My logical mind is not working too good at the moment) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 The name was WORKGROUP I have amended the Wideclient.ini files on both computers as instructed. There is still no recognised connection between the two computers And what, then, do the Log files show now? I cannot advise without this information. If there is a problem it will be logged. By not supplying information you are simply delaying any solution. I cannot actually see you computer screens from here, and I cannot guess accurately, if at all, what is happening. I ran Squawkbox on my second computer (no FS2004) it says FSUIPC error cannot run without flight simulator running Of course -- if WideFS is not able to connect then how can Squawkbox? Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive6354 Posted March 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Hello Pete OK..I have removed all files and started again I have installed Squawkbox on both computers, ensuring that I have used the correct configuration for the computer not running FS2004 I have inserted Wideclient.exe and Wideclient.ini into Squawkbox folder Do I edit the Wideclient.ini file and add the pathname for Squawkbox (Run1=C\Program Files\Squawkbox) I have now received the following log when I ran WideFS ********* WideClient Log [version 6.78] Class=FS98MAIN ********* Date (dmy): 23/03/10, Time 21:10:31.789: Client name is ANGELA-PC 500 Attempting to connect now 1514 Trying to locate server: Need details from Server Broadcast 1514 Failed to connect: waiting to try again 3542 Attempting to connect now 8970 ****** End of session performance summary ****** 8970 Total time connected = 0 seconds 8970 Reception maximum: 0 frames/sec, 0 bytes/sec 8970 Transmission maximum: 0 frames/sec, 0 bytes/sec 8970 Max receive buffer = 0, Max send depth = 0, Send frames lost = 0 8970 ********* Log file closed (Buffers: MaxUsed 0, Alloc 0 Freed 0 Refused 0) ********* ********* WideServer.DLL Log [version 6.78] ********* Blocksize guide = 4096 (double allowed) Date (dmy): 23/03/10, Time 21:48:15.875: Server name is CLIVE-12B4CE4BA 32156 Initialising TCP/IP server 32156 Initialising IPX/SPX server 32156 IPX/SPX socket() failed [Error=10047] Address family not supported by protocol family 32172 Failed to start IPX/SPX Server 32172 Initialising UDP/IP server 32922 Broadcasting service every 1000 mSecs 43266 Restarting service due to total lack of use 43266 Failed to start IPX/SPX Server 54563 Closing down now ... Memory managed: Offset records: 0 alloc, 0 free Read buffer usage: 0 alloc, 0 free, max in session: 0 Write buffer usage: 0 alloc, 0 free, max in session: 0 Throughput maximum achieved: 0 frames/sec, 0 bytes/sec Throughput average achieved for complete session: 0 frames/sec, 0 bytes/sec ********* Log file closed ********* I HAVE RESOLVED THE PROBLEM TheFirewall was turned on. Although I was informed of this I was prompted to allow access thinking that this would bypass the firewall, I was mistaken Thank you for your help and patience Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Do I edit the Wideclient.ini file and add the pathname for Squawkbox (Run1=C\Program Files\Squawkbox) If you want it loading automatically when you run WideClient, yes. It's your option. If you only want it to run when FS is ready you should use "RunReady" not "Run". ********* WideClient Log [version 6.78] Class=FS98MAIN *********Date (dmy): 23/03/10, Time 21:10:31.789: Client name is ANGELA-PC 500 Attempting to connect now 1514 Trying to locate server: Need details from Server Broadcast 1514 Failed to connect: waiting to try again 3542 Attempting to connect now 8970 ****** End of session performance summary ****** Er, yes, well, okay -- it didn't see the broadcast from the FS PC. But you only ran it for a few seconds. Are you sure FS was running and ready to fly then? You should not be so impatient. See it it connects later -- WideServer won't even be trying in any case till you are completely ready to fly. ********* WideServer.DLL Log [version 6.78] *********Blocksize guide = 4096 (double allowed) Date (dmy): 23/03/10, Time 21:48:15.875: Server name is CLIVE-12B4CE4BA This log shows WideServer not even being started till 38 minutes after you ran WideClient! If you don't run them at the same time, they cannot connect! I HAVE RESOLVED THE PROBLEMTheFirewall was turned on. Although I was informed of this I was prompted to allow access thinking that this would bypass the firewall, I was mistaken Nothing can bypass firewalls. You have to either turn them off or, more safely, make the exceptions at both ends. Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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