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After reloading FSX and SP1 and 2 I'm getting an error message when loading FSX. Downloaded and reinstalled FSUIPC4.4.60. FSX loads if I chose to not run FSUIPC4.dll.

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Error

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Flight Simulator has detected a problem with a third-party software program (add-on):

Name: FSUIPC4 DLL: FS new universal IPC interface

Version: 4.60a

Company: Peter L. Dowson

File: Modules\FSUIPC4.dll

Do you want to run this software (not recommended)?

To avoid seeing this message in the future, uninstall this program or disable its ability to start when running Flight Simulator. For more information about third-party programs, contact the publisher or see http:\www.fsinsider.com.

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Yes No

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Install log:

Installer for FSUIPC4.DLL version 4.60a

Looking in registry for FSX install path:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\10.0

Parameter"SetupPath"

... >>> OK! FOUND FSX! <<< ...

Looking in registry for ESP install path:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft ESP\1.0

Parameter"SetupPath"

Not there, so looking in:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft ESP\1.0

Parameter"AppPath"

... NOT found! ...

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INSTALLATION FOR FSX:

AppPath="C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\"

Checking version of FSX.EXE:

... Version 10.0.61472.0 (Need at least 10.0.60905.0)

Checking compatibility with installed SimConnect:

Found SimConnect build 60905 (Original)

Found SimConnect build 61242 (SP1 May07)

Found SimConnect build 61259 (Acc/SP2 Oct07)

Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC4 installed in:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL

... No previous valid version found.

FSX Modules folder already exists.

Okay -- installed FSUIPC4 into "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL"

Looking for the current user's Application Data path:

... found as "C:\Users\Jerry\AppData\Roaming"

Now finding \Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG for all users, including this one

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\AppData\Roaming"

Found FSX.CFG in "C:\Users\Jerry\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG"

Now checking DLL.XML ...

... There is a previous DLL.XML, checking for FSUIPC4 section.

... FSUIPC4 section already exists but will be replaced.

... FSUIPC4 section of DLL.XML written okay

Now checking for a SimConnect.XML file ...

... No SimConnect.XML file found. This is okay.

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Application Data\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Contacts\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Cookies\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Desktop\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Documents\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Downloads\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Favorites\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Links\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Local Settings\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Music\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\My Backup Files\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\My Documents\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\NetHood\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Pictures\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\PrintHood\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Recent\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Saved Games\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Searches\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\SendTo\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Start Menu\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Templates\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Videos\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

"Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder created okay!

Now installing additional files into the "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder:

Installed "FSUIPC4 User Guide.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC4 for Advanced Users.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC4 History.pdf" okay

Installed "List of FSX controls.pdf" okay

Installed "GlobalSign Root.exe" okay

Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay

Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay

Installed "Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf" okay

Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay

FSUIPC4.DLL installed and signature checked out okay!

Deleted GlobalSign Root fix program ... no longer relevant

===========================================================

All installer tasks completed okay!

*************** End of Install Log ***************

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Loaded the interim update. Replaced the .dll file with the interim update .dll file. Started FSX. Asks if I want to run FSUIPC. No and FSX loads without FSUIPC. Yes and FSX stops responding.

It's a clash with one of your other add-ons being loaded by SimConnect. It will be due to the bug in SimConnect which was never actually fixed, though Microsoft did do some work-arounds in SP1 and SP2 (better in SP2) which stops most (but not all) of these problems occurring.

It only occurs when one or more programs are being subjected to SimConnect's security check (via windows) at the same time that it is trying to load another. When it happens it is an unfortunate timing clash, and very elusive (which is why the FS team never managed to fix it before they were moved on). Normally allowing FS to continue gets one or both of the conflicting security checks done and then on subsequent loads you get no problems. Probably, having recently re-installed everything, you have several add-ons competing during the load time, all needing the security check.

The easiest way to sort this out is probably to temporarily disable some or all of the other DLL or EXEs from being loaded by SimConnect. You need to get each approved and working before adding the next, or even do them singly before enabling more than one.

The way to do that is by editing the DLL.XML and EXE.XML files, changing one param in each entry to disable them. But take care. It is easy to mess those files up. Make copies first. I use DBS Studio's "DBS FS Startup Editor" which might be a good investment if you are keen on FSX add-ons -- especially as it appears to be Free still! Go to http://www.dbsim.com/ .

Regards

Pete

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Deleted FSX. Deleted Microsoft Games folders. Reinstalled FSX. Started FSX. Good results. Reinstall SP1. Started FSX. Good results. Reinstall SP2. Started FSX. Good results. Install FSUIPC4 4.60 FSX hangs during loading.

Latest FSUIPC install log

Installer for FSUIPC4.DLL version 4.60a

Looking in registry for FSX install path:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\10.0

Parameter"SetupPath"

... >>> OK! FOUND FSX! <<< ...

Looking in registry for ESP install path:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft ESP\1.0

Parameter"SetupPath"

Not there, so looking in:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft ESP\1.0

Parameter"AppPath"

... NOT found! ...

===========================================================

INSTALLATION FOR FSX:

AppPath="C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\"

Checking version of FSX.EXE:

... Version 10.0.61355.0 (Need at least 10.0.60905.0)

Checking compatibility with installed SimConnect:

Found SimConnect build 60905 (Original)

Found SimConnect build 61242 (SP1 May07)

Found SimConnect build 61259 (Acc/SP2 Oct07)

Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC4 installed in:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL

... Version 4.600 found.

FSX Modules folder already exists.

Okay -- installed FSUIPC4 into "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL"

Looking for the current user's Application Data path:

... found as "C:\Users\Jerry\AppData\Roaming"

Now finding \Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG for all users, including this one

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\AppData\Roaming"

Found FSX.CFG in "C:\Users\Jerry\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG"

Now checking DLL.XML ...

... There is a previous DLL.XML, checking for FSUIPC4 section.

... FSUIPC4 section already exists but will be replaced.

... FSUIPC4 section of DLL.XML written okay

Now checking for a SimConnect.XML file ...

... No SimConnect.XML file found. This is okay.

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Application Data\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Contacts\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Cookies\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Desktop\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Documents\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Downloads\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Favorites\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Links\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Local Settings\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Music\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\My Backup Files\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\My Documents\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\NetHood\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Pictures\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\PrintHood\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Recent\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Saved Games\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Searches\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\SendTo\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Start Menu\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Templates\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\Videos\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

"Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder already exists.

Now installing additional files into the "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder:

Installed "FSUIPC4 User Guide.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC4 for Advanced Users.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC4 History.pdf" okay

Installed "List of FSX controls.pdf" okay

Installed "GlobalSign Root.exe" okay

Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay

Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay

Installed "Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf" okay

Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay

FSUIPC4.DLL installed and signature checked out okay!

Deleted GlobalSign Root fix program ... no longer relevant

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All installer tasks completed okay!

Registration for FSUIPC4 was successful! (result code 00)

*************** End of Install Log ***************

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Deleted FSX. Deleted Microsoft Games folders. Reinstalled FSX. Started FSX. Good results. Reinstall SP1. Started FSX. Good results. Reinstall SP2. Started FSX. Good results. Install FSUIPC4 4.60 FSX hangs during loading.

You cannot remove all of the elements affecting FSX like that. There are also critical files, controlling SimConnect actions during loading, in the AppData folders. It was pointless deleting FSX and reinstalling -- in fact that tends to wreck SimConnect completely, sometimes making it necessary to reinstall Windows completely too.

Latest FSUIPC install log

This in fact shows you didn't delete the crucial parts. The modules folder to start with:

Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC4 installed in:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL

... Version 4.600 found.

FSX Modules folder already exists.

and, crucially, the DLL.XML file in C:\Users\Jerry\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX:

Now checking DLL.XML ...

... There is a previous DLL.XML, checking for FSUIPC4 section.

... FSUIPC4 section already exists but will be replaced.

... FSUIPC4 section of DLL.XML written okay

There may also be an EXE.XML there, also loading add-ons via SimConnect.

If you did delete all of the folders in FSX, including the Modules folder, are there now FSUIP4.LOG and FSUIPC4.INI files there? If not then FSUIPC4 has never got to run, and FSX is crashing in the SimConnect loading as I described. If there is an FSUIPC4.LOG file, show it to me please.

Regards

Pete

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I uninstalled FSX then deleted all remaining folders in Microsoft Games.

Here is the log file.

********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.60a by Pete Dowson *********

Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ...

User Name="Jerry Carroll"

User Addr="vatusa6@earthlink.net"

FSUIPC4 Key is provided

WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired

Running inside FSX on Windows 7 (using SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07)

Module base=61000000

Wind smoothing fix is fully installed

DebugStatus=15

109 System time = 12/11/2010 18:07:12

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I uninstalled FSX then deleted all remaining folders in Microsoft Games.

Here is the log file

The fact that there is a Log produced means that SimConnect is loading FSUIPC okay. So something else is happening. I need more information:

1. Can you get any more information from Windows when the crash occurs? I need at least the type of crash (access violation? Some number?), the module name, and the memory address if possible. Look for buttons on the report screen which reveal additional information. Or else, afterwards, see if the details are placed in the Windows error log (eg right-clcik on My Computer, select Manage, then Event viewer - Windows Logs - Application. look for the red ! error note relating to the incident.

2. Get me a SimConnect log. For information on how to enable SimConnect logging please see the FAQ subforum -- there's a thread there which explains how.

Regards

Pete

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I do not get an error message, the Microsoft splash screen simply remains on the window but the system hangs and stops responding.

From event viewer:

- System

- Provider

[ Name] Application Hang

- EventID 1002

[ Qualifiers] 0

Level 2

Task 101

Keywords 0x80000000000000

- TimeCreated

[ SystemTime] 2010-11-13T00:07:43.000000000Z

EventRecordID 7315

Channel Application

Computer Jerry-PC

Security

- EventData

fsx.exe

10.0.61355.0

127c

01cb82c6b5257f45

3

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\fsx.exe

073efa00-eeba-11df-b7be-a4badb033f4c

55006E006B006E006F0077006E0000000000

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Binary data:

In Words

0000: 006E0055 006E006B 0077006F 0000006E

0008: 0000

In Bytes

0000: 55 00 6E 00 6B 00 6E 00 U.n.k.n.

0008: 6F 00 77 00 6E 00 00 00 o.w.n...

0010: 00 00 ..

SIMCONNECT LOG:

0.00000 SimConnect version 10.0.61242.0

0.36341 Panels data export found and set to 20A819B8

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I do not get an error message, the Microsoft splash screen simply remains on the window but the system hangs and stops responding.

The SYSTEM hangs? Wow! That cannot be anything directly that FSUIPC is doing. It is all normal user-level code running in the FS process. it simply does not have enough privilege to hang a system!

fsx.exe

10.0.61355.0

Is that the current version? Mine is 61635. Maybe a difference between SP2 and Acceleration?

I think it is only SP1.

SIMCONNECT LOG:

0.00000 SimConnect version 10.0.61242.0

Aha! That confirms it! Your FSX installation is only at SP1 level. Please update to SP2. It fixes a lot of the sorts of bugs you are now seeing.

Regards

Pete

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Removed and reinstalled SP2. FSX error message when loading. If I select yes, system stops responding. If I select no, FSX loads. In FSX from the "about" screen it advises I am running SP2.

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Error

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Flight Simulator has detected a problem with a third-party software program (add-on):

Name: FSUIPC4 DLL: FS new universal IPC interface

Version: 4.60a

Company: Peter L. Dowson

File: Modules\FSUIPC4.dll

Do you want to run this software (not recommended)?

To avoid seeing this message in the future, uninstall this program or disable its ability to start when running Flight Simulator. For more information about third-party programs, contact the publisher or see http:\www.fsinsider.com.

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Yes No

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SimConnect.log

0.00000 SimConnect version 10.0.61259.0

0.01227 Server: Scope=local, Protocol=Pipe, Name=\\.\pipe\Microsoft Flight Simulator\SimConnect, MaxClients=64

0.01614 Server: Scope=local, Protocol=IPv6, Address=::1, Port=53310, MaxClients=64

0.01809 Server: Scope=local, Protocol=IPv4, Address=127.0.0.1, Port=53311, MaxClients=64

73.33801 Panels data export found and set to 20AF19E8

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Removed and reinstalled SP2. FSX error message when loading. If I select yes, system stops responding. If I select no, FSX loads. In FSX from the "about" screen it advises I am running SP2.

This looks like the well-known SimConnect validation check bug. It is not that frequent but it is very difficult to get around when it happens. It seems to be timing dependent, but once you have it one a PC it tends to be the same on that PC unless you change the SimConnect configuration around.

FSUIPC4 really hasn't got much say in it because it happens before it is even running. Microsoft did try to fix it, but only succeeded in making it less common than it used to be.

Once FSUIPC4 is actually loaded and listed in FSX.CFG as 'trusted' then you don't get the problem any more because SimConnect doesn't repeat the same clashing validation calls into Windows.

There are two things you can try, in either order. First is to see if the very latest FSUIPC (4.634 from the Download Links sub-forum) has sufficiently different timings to get around the problem. This is rather unlikely as it would only be the size which made a difference there. The other is to temporarily stop all other SimConnect clients from loading at the same time, This only needs doing once, to get FSUIPC4 loaded and trusted. To do this find the EXE.XML (if there is one) and DLL.XML files -- in the same folder as your FSX.CFG file. Rename them, say as My EXE.XML and My DLL.XML. Then run the latest FSUIPC4 installer, which you can download from this link:

Install_FSUIPC4634.zip

and run FSX. When that proves okay, close FSX and go back to delete the new DLL.XML which would have been generated, and rename your copies back.

Note: if you don't know where to look for the XML files, look in the FSUIPC install log in your FSX Modules folder. It will tell you where it found the FSX.CFG file. That's where you'll find the XMLs.

Regards

Pete

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No EXE.XML file. Renamed DLL.XML. Installed 4634. Open FSX and get following message. Yes and FSX stops responding. No and FSX loads without FSUIPC. Several more attempts to load FSX fail.

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Error

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Flight Simulator has detected a problem with a third-party software program (add-on):

Name: FSUIPC4 DLL: FS new universal IPC interface

Version: 4.634

Company: Peter L. Dowson

File: Modules\FSUIPC4.dll

Do you want to run this software (not recommended)?

To avoid seeing this message in the future, uninstall this program or disable its ability to start when running Flight Simulator. For more information about third-party programs, contact the publisher or see http:\www.fsinsider.com.

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Yes No

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INSTALL LOG:

Installer for FSUIPC4.DLL version 4.634

Looking in registry for FSX install path:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\10.0

Parameter"SetupPath"

... >>> OK! FOUND FSX! <<< ...

Looking in registry for ESP install path:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft ESP\1.0

Parameter"SetupPath"

Not there, so looking in:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft ESP\1.0

Parameter"AppPath"

... NOT found! ...

Looking in registry for Prepar3D install path:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\LockheedMartin\Prepar3D

Parameter"SetupPath"

Not there, so looking in:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\LockheedMartin\Prepar3D

Parameter"AppPath"

... NOT found! ...

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INSTALLATION FOR FSX:

AppPath="C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\"

Checking version of FSX.EXE:

... Version 10.0.61472.0 (Need at least 10.0.60905.0)

Checking compatibility with installed SimConnect:

Found SimConnect build 60905 (Original)

Found SimConnect build 61242 (SP1 May07)

Found SimConnect build 61259 (Acc/SP2 Oct07)

Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC4 installed in:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL

... Version 4.634 found.

FSX Modules folder already exists.

Okay -- installed FSUIPC4 into "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL"

Looking for the current user's Application Data path:

... found as "C:\Users\Jerry\AppData\Roaming"

Now finding \Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG for all users, including this one

Looking in "C:\Users\All Users\AppData\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\All Users.WINDOWS\AppData\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Default\AppData\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Default User\AppData\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Jerry\AppData\Roaming"

Found FSX.CFG in "C:\Users\Jerry\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG"

Now checking DLL.XML ...

... No previous DLL.XML found, creating new one.

Now checking for a SimConnect.XML file ...

... No SimConnect.XML file found. This is okay.

Looking in "C:\Users\Public\AppData\Roaming"

... No FSX.CFG there

"Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder already exists.

Now installing additional files into the "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder:

Installed "FSUIPC4 User Guide.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC4 for Advanced Users.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC4 History.pdf" okay

Installed "List of FSX controls.pdf" okay

Installed "GlobalSign Root.exe" okay

Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay

Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay

Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay

Installed "Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf" okay

Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay

FSUIPC4.DLL installed and signature checked out okay!

Deleted GlobalSign Root fix program ... no longer relevant

===========================================================

All installer tasks completed okay!

Registration check for FSUIPC4 was successful! (result code 00)

*************** End of Install Log ***************

SIMCONNECT LOG:

0.00000 SimConnect version 10.0.61259.0

0.01272 Server: Scope=local, Protocol=Pipe, Name=\\.\pipe\Microsoft Flight Simulator\SimConnect, MaxClients=64

0.01652 Server: Scope=local, Protocol=IPv6, Address=::1, Port=60989, MaxClients=64

0.01849 Server: Scope=local, Protocol=IPv4, Address=127.0.0.1, Port=60990, MaxClients=64

2.36992 Panels data export found and set to 20AF19E8

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No EXE.XML file. Renamed DLL.XML. Installed 4634. Open FSX and get following message. Yes and FSX stops responding. No and FSX loads without FSUIPC. Several more attempts to load FSX fail.

Hmmm. I've not had any user which such a persistent problem since FSX came out. Seems you either have a corrupted FSX install, or just possibly a bad game device driver.

There's not much I can do from here to check those things. You could check Window's game controllers to see if there's anything listed which shouldn't be. You never had an Epic installed at all, did you? If you don't know what that means, never mind.

I really need the module name, and address, which is actually crashing. You said earlier that you don't get any information, that the SYSTEM actually hangs. Do you still confirm that? You have to do a hardware reset or switch off and on again? If so then it really must be at driver level, as in a games device driver or even, possibly, a video driver, though that sounds rather unlikely as video things are nothing to do with any FSUIPC start-up.

If you cannot get any more details, eg by clicking a button on the failure screen, or from the Windows error log, then all I can do is work on a lot of extra logging in FSUIPC4 to find out what point, exactly, it reaches before things die. This could take a while, and I can't start till next week, so the more investigation you can do your end the easier and maybe quicker it is going to be.

Regards

Pete

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... all I can do is work on a lot of extra logging in FSUIPC4 to find out what point, exactly, it reaches before things die. This could take a while, and I can't start till next week, so the more investigation you can do your end the easier and maybe quicker it is going to be.

Looking at the FSUIPC4 log you supplied, it seems to get stuck during initialisation, before logging the FLT UNC and FS UNC paths. So, just to check if that is where we need to look, I've added a little extra logging in that area.

Please download FSUIPC 4635a by clicking this link, and copy it into your FSX Modules folder. The edit the FSUIPC4.INI file, adding these two lines to the [General] section:

Debug=Please

TestOptions=x400

Then run FSX, get the crash, and show me the FSUIPC4.LOG.

Thanks,

Pete

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Here is the FSUIPC4.LOG file:

********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.635a by Pete Dowson *********

Reading options from "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini"

Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ...

User Name="Jerry Carroll"

User Addr="vatusa6@earthlink.net"

FSUIPC4 Key is provided

WideFS7 Key is provided

Running inside FSX on Windows 7 (using SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07)

Module base=61000000

Wind smoothing fix is fully installed

DebugStatus=255

187 System time = 24/11/2010 17:49:47

187 #### 1 #### Logged time details

187 #### 2 #### Got FLT path = "C:\Users\Jerry\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\"

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Here is the FSUIPC4.LOG file:

Thanks. It gets stuck in the routine which is calling Windows to find the registry stuff to convert: your FSX flight path:

"C:\Users\Jerry\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\"

into a UNC ("Universal Naming Convention", I think) path so that it can be accessed from other PCs.

Now I know where is it getting stuck, I'll put logging into that routine (it is quite small) to see why.

Later,

Pete

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Pete,

Don't know if this will help but I found it in an error logging section of Windows:

Description

A problem caused this program to stop interacting with Windows.

Faulting Application Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\fsx.exe

Problem signature

Problem Event Name: AppHangB1

Application Name: fsx.exe

Application Version: 10.0.61472.0

Application Timestamp: 475e17d3

Hang Signature: 6d16

Hang Type: 0

OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.768.3

Locale ID: 1033

Additional Hang Signature 1: 6d16ed2c17e239569453268b9557d0b6

Additional Hang Signature 2: 2b54

Additional Hang Signature 3: 2b546c6897e14c0bbfb684a250f865b3

Additional Hang Signature 4: 6d16

Additional Hang Signature 5: 6d16ed2c17e239569453268b9557d0b6

Additional Hang Signature 6: 2b54

Additional Hang Signature 7: 2b546c6897e14c0bbfb684a250f865b3

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Don't know if this will help but I found it in an error logging section of Windows:

Thanks, but no, we'll get more info from the extra logging I'm doing. I'm now half convinced there's a Registry problem, but what it could be I don't know yet.

Please do two things this time. First, before running FSX, run the registry editor so that you can extract the relevant section for me. you may need to be the Administrator for this:

Start button, enter "regedit" and press return.

In the Explorer-type path system on the left, select and open up

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

then SYSTEM

then CurrentControlSet

then Services

There'll be a lot of those. Scroll to find

LanmanServer

Then select Shares within that, and with it selected, go to the File menu, select Export, and save as, say "MyShares" to somewhere where you'll be able to find the resulting file.

Close Regedit, find the file, open it with NotePad, and cut and paste its contents into a message here, please.

---------------------

Please download FSUIPC 4635b by clicking this link, and copy it into your FSX Modules folder. Then edit the FSUIPC4.INI file, adding these two lines to the [General] section if you have removed them since the last test:

Debug=Please

TestOptions=x400

Then run FSX, get the crash, and show me the FSUIPC4.LOG.

Thanks,

Pete

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\LanmanServer\Shares]

"Users"=hex(7):43,00,53,00,43,00,46,00,6c,00,61,00,67,00,73,00,3d,00,32,00,30,\

00,34,00,38,00,00,00,4d,00,61,00,78,00,55,00,73,00,65,00,73,00,3d,00,34,00,\

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00,79,00,70,00,65,00,3d,00,30,00,00,00,00,00

"C"=hex(7):43,00,53,00,43,00,46,00,6c,00,61,00,67,00,73,00,3d,00,30,00,00,00,\

4d,00,61,00,78,00,55,00,73,00,65,00,73,00,3d,00,34,00,32,00,39,00,34,00,39,\

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"D"=hex(7):43,00,53,00,43,00,46,00,6c,00,61,00,67,00,73,00,3d,00,30,00,00,00,\

4d,00,61,00,78,00,55,00,73,00,65,00,73,00,3d,00,34,00,32,00,39,00,34,00,39,\

00,36,00,37,00,32,00,39,00,35,00,00,00,50,00,61,00,74,00,68,00,3d,00,44,00,\

3a,00,5c,00,00,00,50,00,65,00,72,00,6d,00,69,00,73,00,73,00,69,00,6f,00,6e,\

00,73,00,3d,00,39,00,00,00,53,00,68,00,61,00,72,00,65,00,4e,00,61,00,6d,00,\

65,00,3d,00,44,00,00,00,54,00,79,00,70,00,65,00,3d,00,30,00,00,00,00,00

"print$"=hex(7):43,00,53,00,43,00,46,00,6c,00,61,00,67,00,73,00,3d,00,37,00,36,\

00,38,00,00,00,4d,00,61,00,78,00,55,00,73,00,65,00,73,00,3d,00,34,00,32,00,\

39,00,34,00,39,00,36,00,37,00,32,00,39,00,35,00,00,00,50,00,61,00,74,00,68,\

00,3d,00,43,00,3a,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,5c,00,\

73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,73,00,70,00,6f,00,6f,\

00,6c,00,5c,00,64,00,72,00,69,00,76,00,65,00,72,00,73,00,00,00,50,00,65,00,\

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24,00,00,00,54,00,79,00,70,00,65,00,3d,00,30,00,00,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\LanmanServer\Shares\Security]

"Users"=hex:01,00,04,80,48,00,00,00,58,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,14,00,00,00,02,00,\

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00,00,00

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00,00,00,51,85,ef,50,b5,55,ef,73,28,d3,69,3d,01,02,00,00

"D"=hex:01,00,04,80,30,00,00,00,40,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,14,00,00,00,02,00,1c,\

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00,00,00,51,85,ef,50,b5,55,ef,73,28,d3,69,3d,01,02,00,00

"print$"=hex:01,00,04,80,48,00,00,00,58,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,14,00,00,00,02,00,\

34,00,02,00,00,00,00,00,14,00,a9,00,12,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,\

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01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,00,00,20,02,00,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,\

00,00,00,20,02,00,00

FSUIPC4.LOG:

********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.635b by Pete Dowson *********

Reading options from "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini"

Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ...

User Name="Jerry Carroll"

User Addr="vatusa6@earthlink.net"

FSUIPC4 Key is provided

WideFS7 Key is provided

Running inside FSX on Windows 7 (using SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07)

Module base=61000000

Wind smoothing fix is fully installed

DebugStatus=255

141 System time = 25/11/2010 08:38:14

141 #### 5 #### Opened RegKey "SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\lanmanserver\Shares"

141 #### 6 #### RegEnumValue 1 DataLen=93(13), "Users"

141 #### 7 #### 13 bytes left. found, "Path=C:\Users"

141 #### 8 #### Made path: "\\JERRY-PC\Users\Jerry\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\"

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Hmm. Interesting that you've shared "Users" as a whole. But the registry entries look fine. FSUIPC isn't getting past the Users entry in any case. It is somehow crashing when trying to verify what looks to be a correct path to your FSX files folder:

\\JERRY-PC\Users\Jerry\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\

The very next action is to get the "file attributes" for that path, to make sure it is a valid path and that it is a directory,, not a file. Then, that's it ...

... so I am still a bit at a loss as to what is happening. I'm going to try one more iteration, one slightly tighter logging. If this shows, as I suspect, that Windows is crashing or hanging when I call it to read the attributes for that path, then I have no answer other than there's something wrong with windows.

If it isn't solvable with this share name, perhaps you could try sharing the Flight Simulator X Files folder itself, say as FSPLANS, a name many programs like.

But before that, please download FSUIPC 4635c by clicking this link, and copy it into your FSX Modules folder. Then edit the FSUIPC4.INI file, adding these two lines to the [General] section if you have removed them since the last test:

Debug=Please

TestOptions=x400

Then run FSX, get the crash, and show me the FSUIPC4.LOG.

Thanks

Pete

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