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OK so im having a really hard time today ive been working on this for hours....On installation of FSUIPC4 there are no errors in the installation log...Then I start FSX and it crashes on the splash screen and here is the problem signature..

Problem signature:

Problem Event Name: APPCRASH

Application Name: fsx.exe

Application Version: 10.0.61472.0

Application Timestamp: 475e17d3

Fault Module Name: convinst.dll

Fault Module Version: 20.34.2321.0

Fault Module Timestamp: 4d88ff4d

Exception Code: c0000005

Exception Offset: 00007741

OS Version: 6.0.6002.2.2.0.768.3

Locale ID: 1033

Additional Information 1: ce5b

Additional Information 2: f4683ef13e018a0f43c0c8b5452a7e93

Additional Information 3: 24aa

Additional Information 4: afb0d1d089f65196dc84b19b1b01f4b4

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OK so im having a really hard time today ive been working on this for hours....On installation of FSUIPC4 there are no errors in the installation log...Then I start FSX and it crashes on the splash screen and here is the problem signature..

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Fault Module Name: convinst.dll

Sorry, but this isn't really related to FSUIPC4. You have some other add-on there. "CONVINST.DLL" isn't part of FSX nor anything to do with FSUIPC4. You'll need to check the other add-ons you have installed. It doesn't appear to be part of Windows nor any development system I know of, so I think it must belong to a third party add-on. find out where it is and check its properties to see who made it, if they own up to it there.

Regards

Pete

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Well see thats the thing ive checked the whole system there is NOTHING with that name

Did you run the search as administrator, and with system and hidden files enabled?

It is obviously there someplace. Windows wouldn't invent a DLL name to deliberately mislead you in its crash data!

You could proceed in the other direction. If it is crashing during loading FSX, then, since it is not part of FSX itself it must be getting loaded by one of the applications SimConnect loads. Check your DLL.XML and EXE.XML files for what you are loading automatically with FSX, and maybe disable them in turn till you find the culprit.

Regards

Pete

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This is what my DLL says...this only happens when FSUIPC4 is installed

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?>

<SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0">

<Descr>Launch</Descr>

<Filename>dll.xml</Filename>

<Disabled>False</Disabled>

<Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad>

<Launch.Addon>

<Name>Object Placement Tool</Name>

<Disabled>True</Disabled>

<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>

<Path>..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Mission Creation Kit\object_placement.dll</Path>

</Launch.Addon>

<Launch.Addon>

<Name>Traffic Toolbox</Name>

<Disabled>True</Disabled>

<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>

<Path>..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll</Path>

</Launch.Addon>

<Launch.Addon>

<Name>Visual Effects Tool</Name>

<Disabled>True</Disabled>

<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>

<Path>..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Special Effects SDK\visualfxtool.dll</Path>

</Launch.Addon>

<Launch.Addon>

<Name>RealTrim</Name>

<Disabled>False</Disabled>

<Path>.\modules\realtrim.dll</Path>

<Commandline/>

</Launch.Addon>

<Launch.Addon>

<Name>FSUIPC 4</Name>

<Disabled>False</Disabled>

<Path>Modules\FSUIPC4.dll</Path>

</Launch.Addon>

<Launch.Addon>

<Name>FSCopilot</Name>

<Disabled>False</Disabled>

<Path>Modules\FSCopilot.dll</Path>

</Launch.Addon>

</SimBase.Document>

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This is what my DLL says...this only happens when FSUIPC4 is installed

That doesn't mean FSUIPC4 is the cause, and it certainly doesn't happen IN FSUIPC4 as you saw. There's obviously some interaction going on.

I assume you don't have an EXE.XML?

In the DLL.XML try changing things like this, temporarily, to stop possibly clashing programs loading:

<Launch.Addon>

<Name>RealTrim</Name>

<Disabled>True</Disabled>

<Path>.\modules\realtrim.dll</Path>

<Commandline/>

</Launch.Addon>

<Launch.Addon>

<Name>FSCopilot</Name>

<Disabled>True</Disabled>

<Path>Modules\FSCopilot.dll</Path>

</Launch.Addon>

</SimBase.Document>

If that fixes it, it is either "RealTrim" or "FSCopilot". So try re-enabling one of them to see which it is.

There were versions of FSCopilot that didn't get on with FSUIPC at one time,.

When you do find it, you can look for an updated version of that package, or you can also try changing the loading order. For example, move that FSCopilot ahead of FSUIPC in the list, or RealTrim after.

Regards

Pete

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That doesn't mean FSUIPC4 is the cause, and it certainly doesn't happen IN FSUIPC4 as you saw. There's obviously some interaction going on.

I assume you don't have an EXE.XML?

In the DLL.XML try changing things like this, temporarily, to stop possibly clashing programs loading:

<Launch.Addon>

<Name>RealTrim</Name>

<Disabled>True</Disabled>

<Path>.\modules\realtrim.dll</Path>

<Commandline/>

</Launch.Addon>

<Launch.Addon>

<Name>FSCopilot</Name>

<Disabled>True</Disabled>

<Path>Modules\FSCopilot.dll</Path>

</Launch.Addon>

</SimBase.Document>

If that fixes it, it is either "RealTrim" or "FSCopilot". So try re-enabling one of them to see which it is.

There were versions of FSCopilot that didn't get on with FSUIPC at one time,.

When you do find it, you can look for an updated version of that package, or you can also try changing the loading order. For example, move that FSCopilot ahead of FSUIPC in the list, or RealTrim after.

Regards

Pete

Ok so as it turns out it is a FSCopilot issue

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