P3D-Crash

[AirSimTech]

Good evening Pete,

since a few days I have a stange issue in our simulator. I am using P3D Version 4.5 (latest version) together with the latest version of FSUIPC and FSFlightControl.

Everything was running since months absoutely stable. Out of the blue I have a strange issue: When I try to modify time and/or date via FSFlightControl P3D is crashing with the windows error message "Prepar3d.exe is not responding anymore"... I know that FSFlightControl doesn't use FSUIPC at all.

So my next steps in testing have been disabling all entries in "EXE.xml" and "DLL.xml". Everything worked fine again. So I put in module after module and it was FSUIPC5.dll which is causing the problem.

I am really a little bit lost here... I didn't update anything.... neither P3D, FSUIPC nor FSFlightControl. And from one day to another this problem showed up.

I had a look already in the FSUIPC.log but I can't see anything special there.

Do you have any hints for me what I can try to nail down the problem? I reinstalled the Prepar3D Client already and I reinstalled FSUIPC. Both without success.

 

Thank you for your help Pete. Any help is really appreciated.

Daniel

[Thomas Richter]

Hi,

11 hours ago, AirSimTech said:

Do you have any hints for me what I can try to nail down the problem?

to be able to help at all it is, as always, needed to attach or copy and paste the FSUIPC5.log and FSUIPC5.ini files

If FSFlightControl doesn't use FSUIPC then FSUIPC will not do anything. You might have a corrupt weather file what gets reloaded at that point on FSUIPC request. To stop that entirely you'd need to add the following to [General] section
NoWeatherAtAll=Yes
to FSUIPC5.ini file. 

Thomas

[AirSimTech]

Hi Thomas,

 

thank you for your reply. I tried the NoWeatherAtAll option, but that didn't do the trick.

Here is the Log:

********* FSUIPC5, Version 5.152 (24th July 2019) by Pete Dowson *********
Running inside Prepar3D v4
Module base=7FF889A80000
Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit reported as Build 16299, Release ID: 1709 (OS 10.0)
Prepar3D.exe version = 4.5.12.30293
Reading options from "C:\P3Dv4\Modules\FSUIPC5.ini"
Checking the Registrations now ...
User Name="xxxx"
User Addr=xxxx
User WideFS Name=xxxx
FSUIPC5 Key is provided
WideFS7 Key is provided
       16 System time = 06/09/2019 11:49:45
       31 FLT UNC path = "\\SERVER\P3Dv4OwnData\"
       31 NOTE: configuring for no weather reads or writes!
       31 Using DialogMode
       78 FS UNC path = "\\SERVER\P3Dv4\"
      156 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan -----------------------
      156 Product= BU0836A Interface
      156    Manufacturer= Leo Bodnar
      156    Serial Number= B55078
      156    Vendor=16C0, Product=05BA (Version 1.34)
      297    GUIDs returned for product: VID_16C0&PID_05BA:
      297       GUID= {D01F48E0-2DF8-11E7-8003-444553540000}
      297       Details: Btns=32, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R0,U0,V3799,X3909,Y0,Z2151
      297       GUID= {D01F6FF0-2DF8-11E7-8004-444553540000}
      297       Details: Btns=32, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R0,U0,V0,X3622,Y3766,Z3813
      297       GUID= {D01F6FF0-2DF8-11E7-8005-444553540000}
      297       Details: Btns=32, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R0,U0,V0,X3610,Y3973,Z3802
      297       GUID= {6FFFFF90-8B76-11E8-8001-444553540000}
      297       Details: Btns=32, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R4095,U4095,V4095,X4095,Y4095,Z4095
      297 Product= BU0836A Interface
      297    Manufacturer= Leo Bodnar
      297    Serial Number= B34787
      297    Vendor=16C0, Product=05BA (Version 1.34)
      297 Product= BU0836A Interface
      297    Manufacturer= Leo Bodnar
      297    Serial Number= B34808
      297    Vendor=16C0, Product=05BA (Version 1.34)
      297 Product= BU0836A Interface
      297    Manufacturer= Leo Bodnar
      297    Serial Number= B76041
      297    Vendor=16C0, Product=05BA (Version 1.37)
      297 -------------------------------------------------------------------
      313 Device acquired for use:
      313    Joystick ID = 0 (Registry okay)
      313    0=BU0836A Interface
      313    0.GUID={D01F48E0-2DF8-11E7-8003-444553540000}
      313 Device acquired for use:
      313    Joystick ID = 1 (Registry okay)
      313    1=BU0836A Interface
      313    1.GUID={D01F6FF0-2DF8-11E7-8004-444553540000}
      313 Device acquired for use:
      313    Joystick ID = 2 (Registry okay)
      313    2=BU0836A Interface
      313    2.GUID={D01F6FF0-2DF8-11E7-8005-444553540000}
      313 Device acquired for use:
      313    Joystick ID = 3 (Registry okay)
      313    3=BU0836A Interface
      313    3.GUID={6FFFFF90-8B76-11E8-8001-444553540000}
      313 -------------------------------------------------------------------
      344 LogOptions=00000000 00000001
      344 -------------------------------------------------------------------
      344 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay
      344 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay
    14391 Running in "Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v4", Version: 4.5.12.30293 (SimConnect: 4.5.0.0)
    14391 Initialising SimConnect data requests now
    14391 FSUIPC Menu entry added
    14391 ... Using Prepar3D with Professional License
    14406 \\SERVER\P3Dv4OwnData\EDDS25.fxml
    14406 \\SERVER\P3Dv4\SimObjects\Airplanes\AST A319 IAE\ASTA319-131.air
    14422 ### The user object is 'AST Flightmodel A319-131'
    14422 ### Mode is NORMAL
    14625 Weather Mode now = Theme
    14625 Weather Mode now = Global
    21328 ### Mode: PAUSE on
    81125 Weather Mode now = Theme
    81125 Weather Mode now = Global
    81172 Weather Mode now = Custom
    82359 Loading Complete ...
    82375 ### Mode is NORMAL
    84625 User Aircraft ID 2 supplied, now being used
    84625 Aircraft loaded: running normally now ...
    85203 System time = 06/09/2019 11:51:11, Simulator time = 14:32:14 (12:32Z)
    85203 Aircraft="AST Flightmodel A319-131"
    91188 -------------------- Starting everything now ----------------------
    91188 Starting WideServer now ...
    91250 ASN active function link set
    91250 Ready for ActiveSky WX radar with additional data
    91297 LUA.0: beginning "C:\P3Dv4\Modules\ipcReady.lua"
    91688 Run: "\\astnas\ast\Server\ASTSRV.exe"
   149250 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 65 secs = 32.2 fps
   149250    Max AI traffic was 22 aircraft (Deleted 0)
   149250 -------------------------------------------------------------------
   149250 ### Mode: PAUSE on

 

And here is the content of FSUIPC5.INI:

[General]
NoWeatherAtAll=Yes
UpdatedByVersion=5152
History=CHZNXF9VCH8JWS38PVO9N
InitDelayDevicesToo=No
Annotate=Yes
UseSystemTime=No
UseMidMouseBtn=Yes
MouseWheelMove=No
MouseWheelTrim=No
MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1
JoystickTimeout=20
FixMachSpeedBug=No
AutoScanDevices=Yes
DisconnTrimForAP=No
ZeroElevForAPAlt=No
ThrottleSyncAll=No
WhiteMessages=No
ShowPMcontrols=No
SpoilerIncrement=512
MagicBattery=No
RudderSpikeRemoval=No
ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No
AileronSpikeRemoval=No
ReversedElevatorTrim=No
ClockSync=No
ClockSyncMins=5
ClearWeatherDynamics=No
TimeForSelect=4
LoadFlightMenu=No
LoadPlanMenu=No
PauseAfterCrash=No
BrakeReleaseThreshold=75
SaveDataWithFlights=No
ZapSound=firework
ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring
UseProfiles=Yes
EnableMouseLook=No
DelayedMouseLookZoom=No
WideLuaGlobals=Yes
AxesWrongRange=No
TCASid=Flight
TCASrange=40,3
AxisCalibration=No
DirectAxesToCalibs=No
ShowMultilineWindow=Yes
SuppressSingleline=No
SuppressMultilineFS=No
AxisIntercepts=No
DontResetAxes=No
ThreadAffinityMask=x0
LuaAffinityMask=x0
InitDelay=0
GetNearestAirports=Yes
LogOptionProtect=Yes
TimeForLuaClosing=2
WeatherReadFactor=2
WeatherRewriteSeconds=1
InitialStallTime=10
NormalStallTime=1
LuaRerunDelay=66
Console=No
PMDG737offsets=Auto
PMDG747offsets=Auto
PMDG777offsets=Auto
RestoreSimcWindows=No
TrafficStallTime=1
ComReadLoopTime=20
ControlsListBuild=30293
FSVersionUsed="Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v4",4.5.12.30293
SimConnectUsed=4.5.0.0

[Traffic Limiter]
AirportPreference=50
PlannedAirportsPreference=50
GroundPreference=50
NearerPreference=50
TargetFrameRate=0
TrafficLimit=0

[JoyNames]
AutoAssignLetters=No
0=BU0836A Interface
0.GUID={D01F48E0-2DF8-11E7-8003-444553540000}
2=BU0836A Interface
2.GUID={D01F6FF0-2DF8-11E7-8005-444553540000}
3=BU0836A Interface
3.GUID={6FFFFF90-8B76-11E8-8001-444553540000}
1=BU0836A Interface
1.GUID={D01F6FF0-2DF8-11E7-8004-444553540000}

[Axes]
PollInterval=10
RangeRepeatRate=10

[Buttons]
PollInterval=25
ButtonRepeat=20,10
1=P64,0,K49,8     -{Key press: 1}-
2=P64,1,K50,8     -{Key press: 2}-
3=P64,2,K51,8     -{Key press: 3}-
4=P64,3,K52,8     -{Key press: 4}-
5=P64,4,K53,8     -{Key press: 5}-
6=P64,5,K54,8     -{Key press: 6}-
7=P64,6,K55,8     -{Key press: 7}-
8=P64,7,K56,8     -{Key press: 8}-
9=P64,8,K57,8     -{Key press: 9}-
10=P64,9,K48,8     -{Key press: 0}-
11=P64,10,K121,11     -{Key press: ctl+shft+F10}-

[AutoSave]
Next=1
Interval=60
Files=10
SaveOnGround=No
AutoSaveEnabled=No

[GPSout]
GPSoutEnabled=No

[GPSout2]
GPSoutEnabled=No

[WideServer]
WideFSenabled=Yes
AdvertiseService=1
Port=8002
Port2=9002

[Sounds]
Path=C:\P3Dv4\Sound\
Device1=Primärer Soundtreiber
Device2=Lautsprecher (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Device3=Z650-4 (2- NVIDIA High Definition Audio)
Device4=Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Device5=Z650-8 (2- NVIDIA High Definition Audio)
Device6=Z650-C (2- NVIDIA High Definition Audio)
Device7=Z650 (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)

[Programs]
RunIf1=READY,\\astnas\ast\Server\ASTSRV.exe
RunIf2=READY,C:\Program Files (x86)\Navigraph\Simlink\NavigraphSimlink.exe

[Window.Message Window]
NewDocked=15, 35, 1890, 17

[ClientNames]
1=A320TABLET
2=BRIEFING
3=OFFICE
4=ASTNOTEBOOK

[Window.SimConnectWindow]
NewDocked=608, 364, 703, 352

[JoystickCalibration]
RudderBlendLowest=1

[LuaFiles]
2=ipcReady
1=ASTGSX

[Keys]
1=121,8,L1:R,0     -{F10: Press=Lua ASTGSX }-

[Window.SimConnect Message Window]
NewDocked=117, 70, 1686, 50

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thank you for your help

Daniel

[AirSimTech]

I also deleted the [LuaFiles] Section to see if the Lua Scripts are causing the problem. But result is still the same...

Another interesting finding is that if I change the time and date for example via FSRealTime (which is using FSUIPC) then everything works fine. I can also change it via the P3D Menu. Also no problem. The problem only occurs when I do that via FSFlightControl. Anyway I got the confirmation from the developer of FSFlightControl that he doesn't use FSUIPC at all. He is sending all the commands via SimConnect.

I also re-checked that disabling the FSUIPC5.dll in DLL.XML solves the problem. As soon as this is disabled the problem is gone.

I know this sounds weird, but (because it sounds weird) I checked that now several times and the results are absolutely reproduceable here.

Help is highly appreciated.

Thanks

Daniel

[Thomas Richter]

You said

Quote

Everything was running since months absoutely stable. Out of the blue I have a strange issue: When I try to modify time and/or date via FSFlightControl P3D is crashing with the windows error message "Prepar3d.exe is not responding anymore"... I know that FSFlightControl doesn't use FSUIPC at all.

did you try changing time/date in p3D menu instead to see what happens then?

Thomas

[AirSimTech]

Hi Thomas,

 

Yes, it works via P3D Menu.

Daniel

[Thomas Richter]

As FSUIPC doesn't behave different in that case there will be a problem with FSFlightControl and its SimConnect call that leads to crash P3D.

Thomas

[John Dowson]

Hi Daniel,

do you have anything in the windows event log for the crash? If so, could you please post it.

Thanks,

John

[AirSimTech]

Hi John,

I will check that tomorrow when I am again in the simulator.

 

Thanks

Daniel

[AirSimTech]

1 hour ago, Thomas Richter said:

As FSUIPC doesn't behave different in that case there will be a problem with FSFlightControl and its SimConnect call that leads to crash P3D.

Thomas

And FSFlightControl says to me that the problem must be related to FSUIPC if disabling that solves the problem. Because of FSUIPC is disabled then the simconnect call doesn't make a problem.

[Thomas Richter]

Hi,

just going back to your initial post

Quote

Everything was running since months absoutely stable. Out of the blue I have a strange issue: When I try to modify time and/or date via FSFlightControl P3D is crashing with the windows error message "Prepar3d.exe is not responding anymore"... I know that FSFlightControl doesn't use FSUIPC at all.

Just to note , FSUIPC5 doesn't change its code or update itself. In case you didn't do any updates on FSUIPC but what has changed?

Please try also with a default AC in a default Airport to eliminate any other add-on.

I installed here the 14-day test version of FSFlightControl and there is no crash or hanging of P3D4.5 when changing Time + Date, with FSUIPC5.152.

Thomas

[AirSimTech]

Hi Thomas,

 

Will do that tomorrow. That is just what I said. I didn't update anything. Neither FSUIPC nor FSFlightControl. It worked perfectly for a long time already. It started from one day to another without changing anything. I know that software doesn't change itself. That makes it even more curious.

I will reply back tomorrow with the results.

Thanks for your assistance.

Daniel

[AirSimTech]

There was nothing in the Windows Event Viewer which seems to be in any way related to P3D to FSUIPC.

Finally I found the solution, or better I found the problem.

I increased the ship-traffic in P3D some time ago... So, without a real hope that this would solve the problem, I decreased the ship traffic back to 0% (where it was before the change). And voila, everything works fine.

Just in case somebody could explain to me how those things are "connected" together, I would be very grateful because I'd like to understand what is or was going on here.

Results are all absolutely reproduceable.

So thank you Thomas and John for your replies. I am happy that it is working again... and who needs ships 🙂

Daniel

[Thomas Richter]

Hi,

in case P3D did hang but not crashed there is no event triggered.

I tried here with all traffic 100% but still no hanging or crash of P3D. Maybe you might have a traffic add-on that uses FSUIPC and causes the problem.

Thomas