FSX crash when in cockpit

[cj0551]

Hello all. So ironically I've played FSX with no problem using FSUIPC and Simconnect. However recently I came across a hickup with my game. First off I'm running Windows 10 and I'm using a Steam edition of FSX.

 

So after doing some research and digging around. I came to find that FSUIPC is the reason why it Crashes. What I did so far was uninstall then reinstalled factory files, then planes. I'm only using two modded planes both by Chris Evans. I'm also using FSXWX for a weather addon. Again this all was working fine but here lately it crashes right once I'm in the virtual cockpit. I've also tried disabling FSUIPC, however it works fine when the DLL file is disabled. E.G  when I have the FSUIPC4 dll file renamed as "_FSUIPC4.DLL" the game Doesnt crash. Would like to see if I can get any support because I really would like using the weather addon.

 

Thanks in advance

FSUIPC4 Install.log FSUIPC4.log FSUIPC4.ini

Edited October 29, 2020 by cj0551

[Pete Dowson]

36 minutes ago, cj0551 said:

So after doing some research and digging around. I came to find that FSUIPC is the reason why it Crashes. What I did so far was uninstall then reinstalled factory files, then planes. I'm only using two modded planes both by Chris Evans. I'm also using FSXWX for a weather addon. Again this all was working fine but here lately it crashes right once I'm in the virtual cockpit. I've also tried disabling FSUIPC, however it works fine when the DLL file is disabled. E.G  when I have the FSUIPC4 dll file renamed as "_FSUIPC4.DLL" the game Doesnt crash. Would like to see if I can get any support because I really would like using the weather addon.

Unfortunately the Log file you supplied is for a perfect session closed normally, but only lasting 101 seconds before FSX-SE was closed. No crash. So there's no useful information. we would need a log from a session which crashed.

Additionally, if the sim is crashing then it is likely that Windows has logged the details. Use the Windows Event Viewer (Windows Logs -- Application), copy the info and paste it back here.

Also, see if the crash still happens without FSXWX. I'm not sure what that is doing.

If it is crashing just when FSX is ready to fly, or before, that it might be a corrupted weather file. SimConnect reads the .WX and wxstationlist.bin files without applying checks, and any corruption can cause crashes and other unpredictable results. So try deleting the .WX files from your FSX Documents folder, and the wxstationlist.bin file in your Appdata folder for FSX (where your FSX.CFG file is).

Pete

 

[cj0551]

10 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said:

Unfortunately the Log file you supplied is for a perfect session closed normally, but only lasting 101 seconds before FSX-SE was closed. No crash. So there's no useful information. we would need a log from a session which crashed.

Additionally, if the sim is crashing then it is likely that Windows has logged the details. Use the Windows Event Viewer (Windows Logs -- Application), copy the info and paste it back here.

Also, see if the crash still happens without FSXWX. I'm not sure what that is doing.

If it is crashing just when FSX is ready to fly, or before, that it might be a corrupted weather file. SimConnect reads the .WX and wxstationlist.bin files without applying checks, and any corruption can cause crashes and other unpredictable results. So try deleting the .WX files from your FSX Documents folder, and the wxstationlist.bin file in your Appdata folder for FSX (where your FSX.CFG file is).

Pete

 

It crashes without FSXWX as well.

+

System

- Provider       [ Name] Application Error

- EventID 1000       [ Qualifiers] 0

Level 2

Task 100

Keywords 0x80000000000000

- TimeCreated       [ SystemTime] 2020-10-29T04:36:38.907844800Z

EventRecordID 8393

Channel Application

Computer LAPTOP-FFAOQ9FL

Security

-

EventData

fsx.exe

10.0.62615.0

559f9a9a

MSCTF.dll

10.0.18362.1139

db0d1e91

c000041d

00085b7d

4258

01d6ada80352499d

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\fsx.exe

C:\Windows\System32\MSCTF.dll

cedcc0a0-1020-4618-9553-a2ec7ee5c7c6

This is the most recent one. I know it also crashed for this different reason below   + System     - Provider       [ Name] Application Error     - EventID 1000       [ Qualifiers] 0       Level 2       Task 100       Keywords 0x80000000000000     - TimeCreated       [ SystemTime] 2020-10-28T03:42:40.731696200Z       EventRecordID 8241       Channel Application       Computer LAPTOP-FFAOQ9FL       Security - EventData       fsx.exe       10.0.62615.0       559f9a9a       ai_player.dll       10.0.62615.0       559f9ab4       c0000005       00036219       2a90       01d6acda505f45eb       C:\Users\cwalt\Desktop\FSX\fsx.exe       C:\Users\cwalt\Desktop\FSX\ai_player.dll       c7c58ac5-33d4-4cff-8996-13f9ddd1596d

Edited October 29, 2020 by cj0551

[Pete Dowson]

10 minutes ago, cj0551 said:

It crashes without FSXWX as well.

Neither of the Windows crash log entries point to FSUIPC. The AI_Player one could be a corrupt AI aircraft model, but I've never seen a crash in MSCTF.DLL, whatever that is.

I still need the FSUIPC log for a crashed session. And do try the weather file deletion test -- if any of those are corrupt then it won't make any difference whether FSXWX is running or not, because the damage is already done.  But it might point to a previous crash or abortion of FSXWX which corrupted the file(s).

Pete

 

[cj0551]

3 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said:

Neither of the Windows crash log entries point to FSUIPC. The AI_Player one could be a corrupt AI aircraft model, but I've never seen a crash in MSCTF.DLL, whatever that is.

I still need the FSUIPC log for a crashed session. And do try the weather file deletion test -- if any of those are corrupt then it won't make any difference whether FSXWX is running or not. But it might point to a previous crash or abortion of FSXWX which corrupted the file(s).

Pete

 

Okay. Question what would be the directory for the WX. Files?  I can't find them and I maybe missing them.

Edited October 29, 2020 by cj0551

[Pete Dowson]

6 minutes ago, cj0551 said:

Okay. Question what would be the directory for the WX. Files?  I can't find them and I maybe missing them

Your Documents folder, the subfolder for FSX documents -- where your saved Flights are!

Pete

 

[cj0551]

1 minute ago, Pete Dowson said:

Your Documents folder, the subfolder for FSX documents -- where your saved Flights are!

Pete

 

Heres the log you requested and I dont think I have that WX. File sending a over another reply with a snapshot.

FSUIPC4.log

[cj0551]

10 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said:

Your Documents folder, the subfolder for FSX documents -- where your saved Flights are!

Pete

 

Its not allowing me to upload a snapshot of the directory I'm trying to show you on my end. But if I think I'm in the right folder that your telling me to be in, I dont see that WX file.

 

Disregard look below this post

[cj0551]

[Pete Dowson]

1 hour ago, cj0551 said:

Heres the log you requested

Again, the log shows a successful start and close of the FSX session, this one lasting 78 seconds. There's no crash. If FSX crashes, FSUIPC, which is within FSX, would crash too. But FSX is being closed normally.

1 hour ago, cj0551 said:

I dont think I have that WX. File sending a over another reply with a snapshot.

You have no flights at all? Really? When you start FSX and go to the main Menu are there no flights listed for you to choose from? Did you delete them all?

 

From the Log you did supply, you Flight is being loaded here:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\flights\other\FLTSIM.FLT

That appears to be the default flight for FSX-SE. So you've NEVER saved a flight? Normally folks set up the sim the way they want, with their chosen aircraft.  You always start as if it is a new simulator you've just installed?

Anyway, it is possible that default .WX is corrupted. Check the date on the file 
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\flights\other\FLTSIM.WX
if it isn't the same as on the FLTSIM.FLT file, delete it.

Did you re-test after deleting the wxstationlist.bin file?

I'm afraid that, so far, you've not supplied any information showing any crash at all in FSUIPC.

Pete

 

 

 

[cj0551]

1 hour ago, Pete Dowson said:

Again, the log shows a successful start and close of the FSX session, this one lasting 78 seconds. There's no crash. If FSX crashes, FSUIPC, which is within FSX, would crash too. But FSX is being closed normally.

You have no flights at all? Really? When you start FSX and go to the main Menu are there no flights listed for you to choose from? Did you delete them all?

 

From the Log you did supply, you Flight is being loaded here:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\flights\other\FLTSIM.FLT

That appears to be the default flight for FSX-SE. So you've NEVER saved a flight? Normally folks set up the sim the way they want, with their chosen aircraft.  You always start as if it is a new simulator you've just installed?

Anyway, it is possible that default .WX is corrupted. Check the date on the file 
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\flights\other\FLTSIM.WX
if it isn't the same as on the FLTSIM.FLT file, delete it.

Did you re-test after deleting the wxstationlist.bin file?

I'm afraid that, so far, you've not supplied any information showing any crash at all in FSUIPC.

Pete

 

 

 

Yes I've retested and it still crashes. What it's doing is basically when the loading is complete about 2-3 seconds in game it will freeze and not respond at all. It will give the busy circular motion on the mouse indicator. I have to sometimes force it to close by restarting my computer.

[cj0551]

1 hour ago, Pete Dowson said:

Again, the log shows a successful start and close of the FSX session, this one lasting 78 seconds. There's no crash. If FSX crashes, FSUIPC, which is within FSX, would crash too. But FSX is being closed normally.

You have no flights at all? Really? When you start FSX and go to the main Menu are there no flights listed for you to choose from? Did you delete them all?

 

From the Log you did supply, you Flight is being loaded here:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\flights\other\FLTSIM.FLT

That appears to be the default flight for FSX-SE. So you've NEVER saved a flight? Normally folks set up the sim the way they want, with their chosen aircraft.  You always start as if it is a new simulator you've just installed?

Anyway, it is possible that default .WX is corrupted. Check the date on the file 
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\flights\other\FLTSIM.WX
if it isn't the same as on the FLTSIM.FLT file, delete it.

Did you re-test after deleting the wxstationlist.bin file?

I'm afraid that, so far, you've not supplied any information showing any crash at all in FSUIPC.

Pete

 

 

 

Yes also I never did have a wxstation list file. It shows to be missing.

[cj0551]

I just found out that even without FSUIPC. If I  used the factory setting real weather (static) it would freeze the game and crash. What could that mean?

[Thomas Richter]

Hi,

this might still point to a corrupt wxstationlist.bin file. I.e. the location, as Pete clearly described, is in my case, \TSR\  would be in your case your UserName. Just delete this file and restart FSX, it will then create a new one.

Thomas

[cj0551]

24 minutes ago, Thomas Richter said:

Hi,

this might still point to a corrupt wxstationlist.bin file. I.e. the location, as Pete clearly described, is in my case, \TSR\  would be in your case your UserName. Just delete this file and restart FSX, it will then create a new one.

Thomas

It didnt create a new one. I've restarted it and it doesnt show one on my list of files. Also am I supposed to have a Simconnect.xml file on there as well cause I dont have one on my end.

[Pete Dowson]

12 hours ago, cj0551 said:

What it's doing is basically when the loading is complete about 2-3 seconds in game it will freeze and not respond at all. It will give the busy circular motion on the mouse indicator.

So it's a HANG not a CRASH?

12 hours ago, cj0551 said:

Yes also I never did have a wxstation list file. It shows to be missing.

What do you mean "shows to be missing"? There should be 2 copies of wxstationlist.bin (note the name which you have wrong).  The default or 'master' copy is in your FSX weather folder. Don't touch that -- it is the one copied back into the AppData folder by FSX if you delete the (possibly corrupt) opy there. Be sure you are lookig in the right folder. It will be 
C:\Users\<YOUR USER NAME>\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX
which is also where your FSX.CFG is.

[LATER]] Oh, I see Thomas helped with that one, with the path illustrated.

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I just found out that even without FSUIPC. If I  used the factory setting real weather (static) it would freeze the game and crash. What could that mean?

If that is without an add-ons running it means your FSX installation is corrupted. You need to uninstall it and re-install.

[LATER] Seems you do anyway because of your missing wxstationlist.bin!

Pete

 

[cj0551]

On 10/30/2020 at 5:03 AM, Pete Dowson said:

So it's a HANG not a CRASH?

What do you mean "shows to be missing"? There should be 2 copies of wxstationlist.bin (note the name which you have wrong).  The default or 'master' copy is in your FSX weather folder. Don't touch that -- it is the one copied back into the AppData folder by FSX if you delete the (possibly corrupt) opy there. Be sure you are lookig in the right folder. It will be 
C:\Users\<YOUR USER NAME>\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX
which is also where your FSX.CFG is.

[LATER]] Oh, I see Thomas helped with that one, with the path illustrated.

If that is without an add-ons running it means your FSX installation is corrupted. You need to uninstall it and re-install.

[LATER] Seems you do anyway because of your missing wxstationlist.bin!

Pete

 

Well I certainly appreciate your help. Apparently I was missing wxstationlist.bin in my weather folder. I added it to the folder and no crashes both with FSUIPC and without it.

[Pete Dowson]

7 hours ago, cj0551 said:

Apparently I was missing wxstationlist.bin in my weather folder. I added it to the folder and no crashes both with FSUIPC and without it.

Good! Thanks for reporting this.

Pete

 

[cj0551]

On 10/29/2020 at 12:49 PM, Pete Dowson said:

Neither of the Windows crash log entries point to FSUIPC. The AI_Player one could be a corrupt AI aircraft model, but I've never seen a crash in MSCTF.DLL, whatever that is.

I still need the FSUIPC log for a crashed session. And do try the weather file deletion test -- if any of those are corrupt then it won't make any difference whether FSXWX is running or not, because the damage is already done.  But it might point to a previous crash or abortion of FSXWX which corrupted the file(s).

Pete

 

Ironically its crashing again and the MSCTF.DLL is the reason.

[cj0551]

I just uninstalled and reinstalled and now it works. I'm starting to think FSX is unstable for Windows 10