My Throttle X55 is no longer detected by FSUIPC 5.157 with P3D v4.5

[Braudoux]

After doing in sequence:

1. Unplugged the controllers
2. Run removeX55.reg
3. Launch P3D/FSUIPC. At this stage, there was a problem with the stick being assigned the throttle command (same as above) and my throttle controller not being detected.
4. Shutdown P3D and changing AutoAssignLetters to Yes
5. Relaunched P3D (situation of controllers still the same as above)
6. Shut down P3D and attached are the 2 files.

FSUIPC5.ini FSUIPC5.log

[Braudoux]

41 minutes ago, John Dowson said:

Are you sure you don't have the saitek/logitech drivers installed, or are running any saitek control software

I forgot to answer this... I have no driver installed and no Saitek program installed... The only third-party running with P3D is EZCA v3

44 minutes ago, John Dowson said:

.are you unplugging your devices?

Not since I shut down P3D this morning.

[John Dowson]

I don't understand why the registry cleaning seemed to do nothing this time.
And I don't understand why it is again getting two GUIDs for your stick but none for your throttle.

Could you show me your FSUIPC5.JoyScan.csv file please.

[John Dowson]

I suspect that there may be other registry entires that need removing....

You could try running the.reg file again with devices unplugged (again, backup first), then reboot. Start regedit, backup again, and then search for 0738 (the VendorID for the X55). All entries you encounter that look related to your devices (i.e. if they also have a Product ID of 2215 or A215) should be removed. Then reboot again, connect you devices, start P3D/FSUIPC and see what is recognised. Show me you .log, .ini and .joyscan.csv files after doing this.

Maybe show me your current JoyScan.csv file first before doing this though....

Edited July 16, 2021 by John Dowson

[John Dowson]

Maybe also try removing the installed drivers for the X55 after you have removed the registry entries (and before you plug in your controllers), and let windows re-install them again when you re-connect. I would do this before manually removing anything else with the same vendor and product ids.

[John Dowson]

Sorry, I'm probably posting too many messages and confusing you...
If you have done anything yet, first try this:
 - unplug your devices
 - backup your registry
 - run the .reg file again
 - remove the drivers for your X55 using the windows device manager
 - reboot
 - connect your devices. Let windows install the default drivers
- start P3D/FSUIPC, load an aircraft, then shut down
- show me your 3 files, the .ini, .log and .JoyScan.csv files

If you still don't get the devices recognised as individual devices after doing this, then you can try manually setting/changing the joystick using a program called JoyIds. See 

John

 

[Braudoux]

11 hours ago, John Dowson said:

If you have done anything yet, first try this:
 - unplug your devices
 - backup your registry
 - run the .reg file again
 - remove the drivers for your X55 using the windows device manager
 - reboot
 - connect your devices. Let windows install the default drivers
- start P3D/FSUIPC, load an aircraft, then shut down
- show me your 3 files, the .ini, .log and .JoyScan.csv files

Good morning John,

I was asleep when you replied, therefore I did not anything else than the above checklist.

11 hours ago, John Dowson said:

you can try manually setting/changing the joystick using a program called JoyIds.

When I click here, I reach a page from Air Group 52 within which there is no link to download the software... But I could find something with the same name here, expecting that is is the same. 

I ran the program and swapped ID2 to ID1. The result in P3D is that none of the controllers reacts...

FSUIPC5.log FSUIPC5.ini FSUIPC5.JoyScan.csv

[John Dowson]

Are those files from after you changed the ids or before? After I presume....

Can you again do the following:
- unplug your devices
 - backup your registry
 - run the .reg file again
 - remove the drivers for your X55 using the windows device manager
 - reboot

Once done, don't connect your devices, but go into regedit and search for any entries with  a vendor id of 0738  and a product id of 2215 or A215. Do you see anything?
If so, try removing those. You really want  to remove all traces of these devices so that they are detected as new devices. Once those entries have been removed, reboot again and give the registry a last check. Then connect you devices, start P3D/FSUIPC, load an aircraft, shut down, and then show me those 3 files again.

[John Dowson]

Are you connecting your devices to usb3 or usb2 ports? If using usb3, maybe try switching to usb2 ports instead...

[Braudoux]

3 hours ago, John Dowson said:

Are those files from after you changed the ids or before? After I presume....

Hello,

Yes, files after id changes.

3 hours ago, John Dowson said:

- unplug your devices
 - backup your registry
 - run the .reg file again
 - remove the drivers for your X55 using the windows device manager
 - reboot

Done as I get used to 🙂

3 hours ago, John Dowson said:

Once done, don't connect your devices, but go into regedit and search for any entries with  a vendor id of 0738  and a product id of 2215 or A215. Do you see anything?

Yes I found some entries after typing SAITEK. See attached file {Entries SAITEK.png}. Entries deleted.

 

3 hours ago, John Dowson said:

Once those entries have been removed, reboot again and give the registry a last check.

Rebbot done and new search in Registry... but with search criteria VID_0738. I used this criteria because I saw the format during the first search. And then I found some other entries {Entries VID_0738.png}. But I CANNOT delete these entries. {Message Entries.png}

 

3 hours ago, John Dowson said:

Then connect you devices, start P3D/FSUIPC, load an aircraft, shut down, and then show me those 3 files again.

Done in sequence. Noticed that my Stick is not detected and the throttle controller is linked to the aircraft joystick axis.

 

3 hours ago, John Dowson said:

Are you connecting your devices to usb3 or usb2 ports? If using usb3, maybe try switching to usb2 ports instead

I was using USB 3 but this time files are related to controllers connected to USB2

FSUIPC5.log FSUIPC5.ini FSUIPC5.JoyScan.csv

[John Dowson]

Ok. But now everything is detected ok:

Quote

      172 Product= Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Stick
      172    Manufacturer= Madcatz
      172    Serial Number= G0001739
      172    Vendor=0738, Product=2215 (Version 0.87)
      313    GUIDs returned for product: VID_0738&PID_2215:
      313       GUID= {E942D3A0-E721-11EB-8002-444553540000}
      313       Details: Btns=17, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R4095,U0,V0,X65535,Y65535,Z0
      313 Product= Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Throttle
      313    Manufacturer= Madcatz
      313    Serial Number= PP000503
      313    Vendor=0738, Product=A215 (Version 0.119)
      313    GUIDs returned for product: VID_0738&PID_A215:
      313       GUID= {E94396F0-E721-11EB-8004-444553540000}
      313       Details: Btns=35, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R255,U255,V255,X1023,Y1023,Z255
      313 -------------------------------------------------------------------
      328 Device acquired for use:
      328    Joystick ID = 0 (Registry okay)
      328    0=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Stick
      328    0.GUID={E942D3A0-E721-11EB-8002-444553540000}
      328 Device acquired for use:
      328    Joystick ID = 1 (Registry okay)
      328    1=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Throttle
      328    1.GUID={E94396F0-E721-11EB-8004-444553540000}
 

This is good!

Now you just need to change the [JoyNames] section in your FSUIPC5.ini. Change it to this (with P3S/FSUIPC not running):

Quote

[JoyNames]
AutoAssignLetters=Yes
0=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Stick
0.GUID={E942D3A0-E721-11EB-8002-444553540000}
1=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Throttle
1.GUID={E94396F0-E721-11EB-8004-444553540000}
A=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Throttle 
A.GUID={E94396F0-E721-11EB-8004-444553540000}
E=Saitek Pro Flight X-55 Rhino Stick
E.GUID={E942D3A0-E721-11EB-8002-444553540000}

Then try starting P3D/FSUIPC, and hopefully things should be ok.....

John

[Braudoux]

Hello John,

I think that you made my day 🙂

After editing the .log file with your proposed text, all seems to be fine now. Event the calibration through W10 is now possible, both calibration panels are available...

I just mad a quick flight to validate m settings and everything is good.

I will keep the system under observation for some time.  I will shut down computer and wake it up this afternoon to see if everything is solid. Will keep you advised.

Thanks again for your assistance

Best regards

Bruno

[John Dowson]

Glad its all now working. Hope the GUIDs don't change again! You should be ok if the joystick IDs change, as you are now using JoyLetters.

9 hours ago, Braudoux said:

Event the calibration through W10 is now possible, both calibration panels are available...

Ok. This makes me thing it was a driver/registry issue. Hopefully you should be ok now...

Regards,

John

[stevieiz]

Very interesting reading as I too am having issues with a X56 throttle following a clean reinstall of windows.

I'll report my findings once I run through John's good advice in this thread.

Stephen.

[Braudoux]

As final confirmation and after few flights, everything is fine now with my throttle, including the Windows calibration that is now also available... thanks John again.

cheers

Bruno

[stevieiz]

All sorted using the above advice.

Stephen.