A320 Fenix Tiller Pedals Disconnect function not working properly

[737Andi]

Hi,

I would like to assign the Tiller Pedals Disconnect function to my hardware button.
Unfortunately, it is not working decently with the following setting (please see also attached image).

17=RH,14,CPFNX320_Misc_Tiller_Pedal_Disconnect_Captain_Press,1     -{Preset Control}-
18=UH,14,CPFNX320_Misc_Tiller_Pedal_Disconnect_Captain_Release,1     -{Preset Control}-

About 50% of the time it is working fine, but the rest of the time the button gets stuck in the pressed position after release.
So the release command does not always seem to work.

I suppose that this could be solved by either setting a delay between the press command and the following release command or by initiating the release command 2 or more times at the end.

Hopefully someone has a solution here.

Thank you!

Best regards Andi

[John Dowson]

Are you assigning to a button or a switch? i.e. are you sending a press/release each time, or sending a press to disconnect and a release to re-connect?
I ask as looking at those preset definitions, they look like they are defined for a momentary button that sends a press followed by a release, as the press toggles an lvar then sets an lvar for animation:

(L:S_FC_CAPT_TILLER_PEDAL_DISCONNECT) ! (>L:S_FC_CAPT_TILLER_PEDAL_DISCONNECT) 1 (>L:S_FC_CAPT_TILLER_PEDAL_DISCONNECT_Anim)

and the release just triggers an lvar for animation:

(L:S_FC_CAPT_TILLER_PEDAL_DISCONNECT) 0 == if{ 0 (>L:S_FC_CAPT_TILLER_PEDAL_DISCONNECT_Anim) } (L:S_FC_CAPT_TILLER_PEDAL_DISCONNECT) 1 == if{ 2 (>L:S_FC_CAPT_TILLER_PEDAL_DISCONNECT_Anim) }

So, the way these work is that a press/release will disconnect, then another press/release will reconnect. If using a switch, then you should define new presets that toggle the lvar and do the animation for both a press and release. This same issue was recently reported on other Fenix A320 presets and I showed how to define new presets for use on switches - see here: 

You have also assigned with 'Control to repeat while held', which is not needed and can cause issues - remove this.

These presets also do not take a parameter - remove those (i.e. use 0) to avoid any confusion (but the parameter is not used, so you can leave as long as you understand this).

John

 

[737Andi]

Hi John,

thanks for your reply. I'm using the hardware tiller from Skalarki, which has a push button for the pedals disc.

My intention would be to have the pedals disconnected as long as the button is being pressed down and to reconnect them as soon as I release the button.

I think this is the way as it works in the real plane.

When releasing the button on the hardware the software button on the Fenix A320 sometimes stays in.

Any idea how to realize that? Thank you!

Best regards Andi

[John Dowson]

4 minutes ago, 737Andi said:

thanks for your reply. I'm using the hardware tiller from Skalarki, which has a push button for the pedals disc.

My intention would be to have the pedals disconnected as long as the button is being pressed down and to reconnect them as soon as I release the button.

I think this is the way as it works in the real plane.

When releasing the button on the hardware the software button on the Fenix A320 sometimes stays in.

As I said, those presets are designed for a press/release to disconnect, and then another press/release to connect. If you want a press to disconnect, and a release to re-connect, then you have to define your own presets to do this.

Ret adding the following to your myevents.txt file (create this if no present) and assign to these:

Quote

FNX320_Misc_Tiller_Pedal_Disconnect_Captain_On#1 (>L:S_FC_CAPT_TILLER_PEDAL_DISCONNECT) 1 (>L:S_FC_CAPT_TILLER_PEDAL_DISCONNECT_Anim) 2 (>L:S_FC_CAPT_TILLER_PEDAL_DISCONNECT_Anim)
FNX320_Misc_Tiller_Pedal_Disconnect_Captain_Off#0 (>L:S_FC_CAPT_TILLER_PEDAL_DISCONNECT) 1 (>L:S_FC_CAPT_TILLER_PEDAL_DISCONNECT_Anim) 0 (>L:S_FC_CAPT_TILLER_PEDAL_DISCONNECT_Anim)

John

[737Andi]

Thank you!

Its working perfectly 🙂

[Alhard Horstmann]

And how can I assign the axis to my tiller axis?

[John Dowson]

36 minutes ago, Alhard Horstmann said:

And how can I assign the axis to my tiller axis?

Have you tried assigned using the Steering Tiller axis (with Send direct to FSUIPC calibration) or Steering Set / Axis Steering Set (with Send to FS as normal axis)?

Otherwise, there are two potentiometer Presets for the Fenix A320 steering tiller: FNX320 Misc Tiller Capt Steering Set and FNX320 Misc Tiller FO Steering Set (see https://hubhop.mobiflight.com/presets/). As these are Input (potentiometer)  presets, they will not appear in the MF  events.txt file. However, you can copy the preset definitions and add them to your myevents.txt file and then assign to them directly. You probably need to calibrate the preset for your axis values - most MF presets assume a potentiometer range of 0 - 1024, rather than a standard axis range of -16384 to + 16383, so you need to change the calibration of the axis input value (represented by @ in the preset definitions) to work on a standard axis range. I can help with this if not familiar with RPN.

Looking at those presets, they seem to use AXIS_STEERING_SET to control the tiller, but also lvars L:N_FC_CAPT_TILLER or L:N_FC_FO_TILLER, probably to control the visuals, so looks like a preset is needed rather than simple direct assignments to the axis control.

John 

 

[John Dowson]

13 minutes ago, John Dowson said:

You probably need to calibrate the preset for your axis values - most MF presets assume a potentiometer range of 0 - 1024, rather than a standard axis range of -16384 to + 16383, so you need to change the calibration of the axis input value (represented by @ in the preset definitions) to work on a standard axis range. I can help with this if not familiar with RPN.

Try these presets (add to your myevents.txt file):

Quote

//FenixSim/A320/Gear
FNX320_Misc_Tiller_Capt_Steering_Set#@ 218.45 / -75 max 75 min (>L:N_FC_CAPT_TILLER) @  (>K:AXIS_STEERING_SET)
FNX320_Misc_Tiller_FO_Steering_Set#@ 218.45 / -75 max 75 min (>L:N_FC_FO_TILLER) @ (>K:AXIS_STEERING_SET) 

Dividing your axis value by 218.45 should change the range from -16384 to +16283 to -75 to +75 which looks to be the range for the lvar.

John

[pepe.ferrer]

Hi John,

 

I also have a Skalarki sidestick box. I did all as described for the pedals disc button, but it won´t work for me?! I created a myevents.txt file and used the presets for the button in FSUIPC (last version 7.5.1).

When the hardware button is pressed, Fenix button is also going down. When releasing the hardware button, Fenix button also jumps back ... Any idea what I am doing wrong?

 

greets Klaus

[John Dowson]

1 hour ago, pepe.ferrer said:

When the hardware button is pressed, Fenix button is also going down. When releasing the hardware button, Fenix button also jumps back ... Any idea what I am doing wrong?

And when the button is down, are the pedals not disconnected?

Those presets consist of 2 parts - one to control the function (via the lvar L:S_FC_CAPT_TILLER_PEDAL_DISCONNECT) and one to control the animation (via the lvar L:S_FC_CAPT_TILLER_PEDAL_DISCONNECT_Anim). So it seems that the functional part is not working.

There is also an MF preset for this which acts as a toggle- FNX320 Misc Tiller Pedal Disconnect Captain Press. That just controls the functional part. Can you try that preset to see if it works for you?

[737Andi]

4 hours ago, pepe.ferrer said:

 

When the hardware button is pressed, Fenix button is also going down. When releasing the hardware button, Fenix button also jumps back ... Any idea what I am doing wrong?

Thats exactly what the script should be doing. This is what I requested above -->

My intention would be to have the pedals disconnected as long as the button is being pressed down and to reconnect them as soon as I release the button.

 

[John Dowson]

1 hour ago, 737Andi said:

6 hours ago, pepe.ferrer said:

 

When the hardware button is pressed, Fenix button is also going down. When releasing the hardware button, Fenix button also jumps back ... Any idea what I am doing wrong?

Thats exactly what the script should be doing. This is what I requested above -->

My intention would be to have the pedals disconnected as long as the button is being pressed down and to reconnect them as soon as I release the button.

So it is still disconnecting when the assigned button is pressed? This wasn't clear from the OPs original post. The issue is probably that he is using a momentary button, rather than a sticky button or switch, and so the diconnect is activating then de-activating on each button press/release. If he wants 1 press/release to toggle on, and another to toggle off, then he should use the MF preset, and update that to also trigger the animation if needed.

John