AFavors Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Hello All, Every since I set FSX up to run as an administrator... The FSUIPC is missing in from under the ADDONS tab while in FSX. Any help on how to rectify this situation will be greatly appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Every since I set FSX up to run as an administrator. Why, and how? There should be no need. The FSUIPC is missing in from under the ADDONS tab while in FSX. Any help on how to rectify this situation will be greatly appreciated Running FSX "as administrator" won't change whether FSUIPC4 is loaded and running or not. Did you install it (using the Installer)? Make sure you have the latest version (see the Download Links subforum). If there is an FSUIPC4.LOG file produced in the FSX Modules folder when you run FSX, then FSUIPC4 is being loaded, and is running, but probably cannot get a connection to SimConnect. In this case, show me the FSUIPC4.LOG file (paste it into a message here). If no log is being produced, then either FSUIPC4 is not installed or there is a SimConnect problem or a corruption in the DLL.XML file, which is what tells Simconnect to load FSUIPC4. In this case, show me the FSUIPC4 Install log file instead, and we'll take it from there. Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFavors Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) Why, and how? There should be no need. Because I was having a problem with the NGX saving panel states, and that was what I was told to try. And it did rectify THAT situation, however, here I am with this one. Running FSX "as administrator" won't change whether FSUIPC4 is loaded and running or not. Did you install it (using the Installer)? Make sure you have the latest version (see the Download Links subforum). If there is an FSUIPC4.LOG file produced in the FSX Modules folder when you run FSX, then FSUIPC4 is being loaded, and is running, but probably cannot get a connection to SimConnect. In this case, show me the FSUIPC4.LOG file (paste it into a message here). If no log is being produced, then either FSUIPC4 is not installed or there is a SimConnect problem or a corruption in the DLL.XML file, which is what tells Simconnect to load FSUIPC4. In this case, show me the FSUIPC4 Install log file instead, and we'll take it from there. I didn't think so either. But I installed it properly. and all was functioning well before. FSUIPC was in the menu. I could change and see the effects of said changes, even mid-flight. Now it has disappeared. Not from the computer, just from the drop-down menu in FSX. I have since elected to run the installer as an admin. but can't re-install until I finish the flight I'm currently on. As for Logging, I don't know how to, or where to begin. So without help, I won't be able to post any of that (unfortunately) Edited January 12, 2012 by AFavors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 I didn't think so either Didn't think what? Sorry, you seem to be replying to my whole post in a confusing way. What is this an answer to, exactly? As for Logging, I don't know how to, or where to begin. So without help, I won't be able to post any of that (unfortunately) I am not asking you to log anything! I said that if an FSUIPC log file (a FILE -- something you see in Explorer! Files are objects on your disk) is being produced then FSUIPC is at least loading! That's the first thing to determine! If it IS loading then the log may show why the menu isn't being produced, so I'd need to se it. On the other hand, if it isn't loading, then ... oh dear, why do I have to repeat it all? Please re-read my original reply which you seem to have misinterpreted. If you don't want to resolve this problem, all very well, but in that case why post here? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFavors Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Okay... Maybe I misspoke, but I am not all that computer saavy. Lets take this slow. Where do I look to see if fsuipc is doing what you want it to do? I'm pretty sure its not internet explorer? which is what I take from your comment! (a FILE -- something you see in Explorer!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFavors Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Here are my specs: i7-2600 Overclocked Turbo Boost to 3.9GHz 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1333MHz Dual 1.5GB GDDR5 NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 - SLI 1TB SATA 3Gb/s (7,200RPM) 32MB Cache High-Performance CPU Liquid Cooling 875W Multi-GPU Approved PSU Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1 FSX SP2 (no Acceleration) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian P Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Pete is referring to Windows Explorer, rather than Internet Explorer - the contents of your local PC drives. The quick way of getting to it is to hold down the Windows key (between left alt and left control usually) and press "e". Ian P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFavors Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 okay thanks Ian. I think I found it but its quite long... Should I still paste it here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFavors Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.728b by Pete Dowson ********* Reading options from "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini" Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... User Name="Aaron Favors" User Addr="ARFavors@comcast.net" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired Running inside FSX on Windows 7 (using SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07) Module base=61000000 Wind smoothing fix is fully installed DebugStatus=15 390 System time = 12/01/2012 07:18:58 390 FLT path = "C:\Users\Aaron\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\" 390 FS path = "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\" 1108 LogOptions=00000000 00000001 1123 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 6381 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 6381 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 6381 FSUIPC Menu entry added 6443 C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\FLIGHTS\OTHER\FLTSIM.FLT 6443 C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\Aircreation_582SL\Aircreation_582SL.AIR 82650 C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\PMDG 737-800NGX WL\B737-800WL.AIR 128498 Weather Mode now = Custom 168107 Starting everything now ... 168122 System time = 12/01/2012 07:21:45, Simulator time = 06:21:13 (12:21Z) 168138 Aircraft="Boeing 737-823NGX American Airlines Winglets" 171539 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 208418 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 208574 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 208574 Now running with SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 208574 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 208589 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 208589 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 208589 FSUIPC Menu entry added 208620 C:\Users\Aaron\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\Restart.FLT 209572 System time = 12/01/2012 07:22:27, Simulator time = 06:22:09 (12:22Z) 263111 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 263267 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 263267 Now running with SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 263267 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 263283 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 263283 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 263283 FSUIPC Menu entry added 263564 System time = 12/01/2012 07:23:21, Simulator time = 06:23:08 (12:23Z) 325746 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 325886 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 325886 Now running with SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 325886 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 325917 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 325917 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 325917 FSUIPC Menu entry added 326058 System time = 12/01/2012 07:24:23, Simulator time = 06:24:07 (12:24Z) 375931 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 376087 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 376087 Now running with SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 376087 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 376103 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 376103 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 376103 FSUIPC Menu entry added 376446 System time = 12/01/2012 07:25:14, Simulator time = 06:25:07 (12:25Z) 441296 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 441452 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 441452 Now running with SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 441452 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 441483 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 441483 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 441483 FSUIPC Menu entry added 441857 System time = 12/01/2012 07:26:19, Simulator time = 06:26:07 (12:26Z) 454696 Weather Mode now = Theme 503447 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 503603 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 503603 Now running with SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 503603 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 503618 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 503618 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 503618 FSUIPC Menu entry added 504195 System time = 12/01/2012 07:27:21, Simulator time = 06:27:06 (12:27Z) 559170 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 559326 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 559326 Now running with SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 559326 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 559342 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 559342 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 559342 FSUIPC Menu entry added 559513 System time = 12/01/2012 07:28:17, Simulator time = 06:28:05 (12:28Z) 615892 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 616064 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 616064 Now running with SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 616064 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 616079 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 616079 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 616079 FSUIPC Menu entry added 616906 System time = 12/01/2012 07:29:14, Simulator time = 06:29:05 (12:29Z) 678901 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 679041 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 679041 Now running with SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 679041 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 679057 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 679057 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 679057 FSUIPC Menu entry added 679712 System time = 12/01/2012 07:30:17, Simulator time = 06:30:05 (12:30Z) 736933 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 737089 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 737089 Now running with SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 737089 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 737105 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 737105 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 737105 FSUIPC Menu entry added 737292 System time = 12/01/2012 07:31:14, Simulator time = 06:31:04 (12:31Z) 782345 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 45 secs = 16.4 fps 791830 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 791986 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 791986 Now running with SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 791986 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 792017 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 792017 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 792017 FSUIPC Menu entry added 792282 System time = 12/01/2012 07:32:09, Simulator time = 06:32:03 (12:32Z) 854995 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 855151 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 855151 Now running with SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 855151 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 855213 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 855229 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 855229 FSUIPC Menu entry added 855572 System time = 12/01/2012 07:33:13, Simulator time = 06:33:03 (12:33Z) 916600 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 916756 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 916756 Now running with SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 916756 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 916771 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 916771 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 916771 FSUIPC Menu entry added 917208 System time = 12/01/2012 07:34:14, Simulator time = 06:34:03 (12:34Z) 973961 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 974133 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 974133 Now running with SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 974133 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 974148 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 974148 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 974148 FSUIPC Menu entry added 974367 System time = 12/01/2012 07:35:12, Simulator time = 06:35:02 (12:35Z) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFavors Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 There was a lot more but it couldn't fit into the post, so I deleted it. Furtermore it seemed to say the same as this just over and over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.728b by Pete Dowson ********* Okay. The fact that you have an FSUIPC4.LOG file being produced means that FSUIPC is actually being loaded. So that's one step forward. I note you have 4.728b installed. That was a temporary interim release. Not sure how you got stuck on that, but it would be a good idea to change it -- 4.756 is available on the Download Links subforum. 6381 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 6381 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 6381 FSUIPC Menu entry added Well, SimConnect is connected okay, and the Menu entry is certainly being created initially, at least. However: 168107 Starting everything now ... 168122 System time = 12/01/2012 07:21:45, Simulator time = 06:21:13 (12:21Z) 168138 Aircraft="Boeing 737-823NGX American Airlines Winglets" 171539 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 208418 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** Something is stalling SimConnect so much that FSUIPC4 is not getting any information back, so tries reconnecting: 208574 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 208574 Now running with SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 208574 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 208589 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 208589 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 208589 FSUIPC Menu entry added which again succeeds. for a little while: 263111 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 263267 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 263267 Now running with SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 263267 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 263283 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 263283 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 263283 FSUIPC Menu entry added And so on, ad nauseam. So, whether you see an FSUIPC menu entry or not looks like it depends when you look! Something is serious degrading your SimConnect performance. I've never seen anything quite so bad -- FSUIPC does occasionally need to reconnect in heavily overloaded systems, but yours, judging by the configuration you posted earlier, most certainly should have no such problems. There is one clue. the intervals at which the problem occurs. Look at the lines for the errors: 208418 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 263111 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 325746 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 375931 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 441296 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 503447 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 559170 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 615892 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 678901 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 736933 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 791830 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 854995 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 916600 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 973961 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** The number on the left is in milliseconds. so the timeouts are occurring regularly at intervals all around the 60 second mark. FSUIPC defaults to a timeout of 1 second in receiving SimConnect messages (which should arrive at your FS frame rate, as a minimum). Something in your system is stopping FS once every minute, approximately, for something over a second. Don't you notice any such pauses whilst flying? You can make FSUIPC more lenient, by editing the FSUIPC4.INI file -- the parameter is "SimConnectStallTime" and you'll see it is set to 1. You can set anything up to 9 (for 9 seconds). but really you should try to find out what is causing the >1 second pauses. Regards Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFavors Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Okay. The fact that you have an FSUIPC4.LOG file being produced means that FSUIPC is actually being loaded. So that's one step forward. I note you have 4.728b installed. That was a temporary interim release. Not sure how you got stuck on that, but it would be a good idea to change it -- 4.756 is available on the Download Links subforum. I did but was in the middle of a flight and couldn't install. I'm about to do that now. Do I need to do this under admin rights, Since It seems I'm gonna have run fsx this way for the ngx? FSUIPC defaults to a timeout of 1 second in receiving SimConnect messages (which should arrive at your FS frame rate, as a minimum). Something in your system is stopping FS once every minute, approximately, for something over a second. Don't you notice any such pauses whilst flying? Yes, and its most annoying. It just started today, once I started running fsx under admin rights. You can make FSUIPC more lenient, by editing the FSUIPC4.INI file -- the parameter is "SimConnectStallTime" and you'll see it is set to 1. You can set anything up to 9 (for 9 seconds). but really you should try to find out what is causing the >1 second pauses. I'd rather find the problem than to try to change fsuipc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFavors Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 When I copy the 4756 file into the modules folder, Do I copy and replace or just copy and keep both files? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian P Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Copy and replace. Ian P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFavors Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFavors Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 I might have it narrowed down. I installed 4.756 and glad to report that fsuipc is now back in my menu. but sadly the pauses are still there. I changed the auto save interval (in the fsuipc menu) from 60 secs to 180 secs and the pauses seem to be coinciding with the auto saves. Is there anyway I can set this up to only save like every half an hour, or every hour? I really only use it for a back up, say... if fsx crashes, on a long flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 I might have it narrowed down. I installed 4.756 and glad to report that fsuipc is now back in my menu. but sadly the pauses are still there. I changed the auto save interval (in the fsuipc menu) from 60 secs to 180 secs and the pauses seem to be coinciding with the auto saves. Is there anyway I can set this up to only save like every half an hour, or every hour? I really only use it for a back up, say... if fsx crashes, on a long flight. The autosaves shouldn't be perceptible, so something is wrong. Usually I would say it's to do with the disk access -- that your disk is nearly full or badly needs defragmenting. but there's something else fishy going on, as you say it only started doing that since you set it to run in Admin mode. Try changing it back to normal mode and see if the pauses stop. If so there's something strange going on with FS's access to its own "My Documents\Flight Simulator X Files" folder. (FSUIPC's autosave does not save the files itself, all it does is call FS's savew routines, the same ones you call yourself using the ';' key or the Flights-save menu entry). Another thought. Was there a particular reason you changed FSX to run in elevated admnistrator mode? Something to do with something else you installed perhaps? If so, maybe it is more related to that addition. For example, some add-on aircraft save a lot of stuff too when FS saves a flight. Maybe that is trying to save into a protected folder and the delay is being caused by such cross-checks and errors reported back to it? Or maybe it is simply inefficiently done? There really should never be a reason to run in elevated administrator mode -- that's needed for installers and when you are trying to update or repair things central to Windows' operation. Is there anyway I can set this up to only save like every half an hour, or every hour? There's no upper limit imposed on the number of seconds, only a lower one (10 i think). Same applies to the 'also Save' interval. Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFavors Posted January 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 okay I'm gonna try not runing as admin and I'll be back in touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFavors Posted January 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 stopped running as admin and glad to say all is well. but will have to wait until after I land to see if the auto save as well as "save panel state" inside the fmc on the ngx is working properly. it wasn't before running as admin, and thats why i changed it. Thanks so much for you guys assistance and I'll be back in touch once i land in JFK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andydigital Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 If you are using an anti virus package on this FSX PC make sure the FSX folder is excluded from scanning, something in the NGX looks similar to a virus to some AV packages and this causes a pause when FSUIPC autosaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 stopped running as admin and glad to say all is well Hmmm. Strange. I wonder why having it in Admin mode causes a delay? I can't think of a reason for that at all. .... but will have to wait until after I land to see if the auto save as well as "save panel state" inside the fmc on the ngx is working properly. it wasn't before running as admin, and thats why i changed it. If the NGX saves its panel state into a folder inside the FSX folders, and you have FSX installed into the Program Files folder, then you may need to change the permissions on that folder. To do this you'll need to run Windows Explorer "as administrator" in order to get enough privilege. If this is the problem it is very amiss of PMDG to do it like that and not automatically change the permissions -- after all they don't have the excuse that Vista and Windows 7 weren't around when they were developing the software. FSUIPC's installer makes the Modules folder user-writable when installing FSUIPC explicitly so that the FSUIPC logs and user plug-ins and INI changes can be saved there, else it would have been in the same boat. Generally, because there are so many FS add-ons which are not really Vista and Win7 compatible, it is better to install FS in its own folder, not allow it to install in its default place. However, once done it is too late and more damage can be done (mainly to SimConnect) in trying to uninstal it to move it -- FSX's uninstaller doesn't do a complete job and can leave the SimConnect part unusable. Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Hmmm. Strange. I wonder why having it in Admin mode causes a delay? I can't think of a reason for that at all. Actually, reading Andy's reply, it could be that the anti-virus checker is having more difficulties and causing the longer pause simply because of the difference in privilege levels. I don't have a virus checker continuously active on files local to the PC, only on those downloaded from the Internet. Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andydigital Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 I don't think it's privilege levels Pete as I was effected by it a few months ago when I did a PC reinstall and I had forgotten to exclude my FSX folders. I run with UAC off and everything is installed outside of the program files folders. I think it's a combination of your encrypted dll plus the Flexnet licensing system used in the NGX that causes the slow down. It's not a problem though as it works perfectly if the folders are in an exclusion, it maybe worth mentioning something about it in your documentation about Autosave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 I don't think it's privilege levels Pete as I was effected by it a few months ago when I did a PC reinstall and I had forgotten to exclude my FSX folders. I run with UAC off and everything is installed outside of the program files folders. I think it's a combination of your encrypted dll plus the Flexnet licensing system used in the NGX that causes the slow down. So I assume, then, that running FSX without Admin mode prevents NGX saving its files and so you don't then get the pause. Hmm. Makes sense I suppose. It's not a problem though as it works perfectly if the folders are in an exclusion, it maybe worth mentioning something about it in your documentation about Autosave. I would add something if i knew how to explain what to do. How do you do this 'exclusion'? Wouldn't it make more sense in any case, performance-wise, not to have any live automatic virus checking except in downloads, as in email receipts and browsers? I use "AVG Free" and I don't think that does live checks every time a file is created by a program running in your own PC. I'd hate such performance limiters! Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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