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Tower 3D Pro - Real Colors/Aircraft Master List by Airport
Pedantic G replied to Pedantic G's topic in ATC Simulators
Hi all, RC Package, Vs_26.1 of the Master file now uploaded. Comments on airlines who have ceased operating or have announced the cessation of flying specific airframe types have been updated and a couple of errors spotted by the community corrected. Gary- 398 replies
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All, to keep you all updated I have conversed with Gabor at @nyergesdesignand based on the results of the poll he has decided to move ahead with at least the first RC Update Pack and then review the requirement for interest. Life is busy for me at present but as soon as time permits I will create a new posting with the updated list of liveries asked for to date, timeframes etc and also the mechanism for getting your further requests to me. Many thanks Gary
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Thanks for all those that voted and passed constructive comments. I will speak with Gabor at Nygeres to see if he will proceed with this and update accordingly once known. Gary
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So if we get the go ahead sounds like you have the time to add some then to the spreadsheet. I have already added Logan Air for EGLL for you 😉
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An idea but If you want to create a massive spreadsheet covering all the main commercial aircraft and operators in the world and spend weeks doing it and then a huge amount of time keeping it up to date, fill your boots as I am not doing it! 😆 There would be hundreds and hundreds of NO's in the spreadsheet and I am sure Gabor will not release packs with hundreds of updates in them for what ultimately will be a defunct game at some point in the future (some may say it is now!) Also keep in mind one of the main control criteria's in this topic is aircraft that predominately associated/operated with released airports in the game.
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Just over 24hrs to go so please cast your vote if you have not already. Many thanks to those that have already and/or have offered their comments thus far. 👍
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Tower 3D Pro - Real Colors/Aircraft Master List by Airport
Pedantic G replied to Pedantic G's topic in ATC Simulators
All, Another 6 days of voting time available so please vote on the separate topic of the Real Colors Livery Update Packs if you have not already done so by midnight 31st August. Percentage in favour currently looks good but would like more people to vote to show their interest or not to gauge from a bigger population if possible. Many Thanks Gary- 398 replies
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All, Just a nudge to remind people who have not voted yet to please do so. Percentage in favour currently looks good but would like more people to vote to show their interest or not to gauge from a bigger population if possible. Thanks Gary
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Daniel, not disputing that its loaded from the GAandLocalTraffic.txt file as I can clearly see your file extract with it in 😉 What I was saying is that IF you use an aircraft type which happens to be part of the Garuda Indonesia fleet (currently 6 types) in the GAandLocalTraffic.txt file and you happen to have that RC Manifest pack in your folders (manifest 19, 24 & 35) then the game seems to automatically overwrite the base files and put this livery on it due to that airline having the _GA as its IATA code. If not it puts the white aircraft in (try taking out all the color packs to see). Just tested this and the first picture on the left is with the color packs and the second one on the right without using a GAandLocalTraffic.txt file as you did. I have not tested all the other GA types as not had time but think that as you say the bulk if not all would show up with a white livery so to get colors on them the RT main airplanes_pack1 file will need to be updated as part of an RT update by Gabor for them to show up in GA schedules not as part of an RC Pack update
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So NOT a GA as such in this instance but GA Garuda Indonesia so that does not work as a GA aircraft, it's a commercial IATA code. Will do some further research on generic GA liveries in game. I am assuming rightly or wrongly that the generic General Aviation liveries are embedded in the RT overall airplane files and not individual airport files.
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Must admit not really looked closely at the default GA liveries in game play as all appear white to me so will do some research. Have you a list of those that come up as xxx_ga in default loading? G
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Thanks for the suggestion and feedback. Agree this could be a good addition as there is a precedent for this in the game with some of the GA jets in ExecJet (Net Jets) where some do have a livery. Think this would work with the "bigger" GA jet types as you would see the livery but think the smaller prop jobs would be difficult to see as they are so small in game play. The cargo feeder ones such as the FedEx feeder services in game look ok as slightly larger but as we all know the graphics quality in the current version is pretty poor (one of the improvements asked for in the wish list for Tower Sim 3). There is interest out there for non corporate commercial airlines in game play, hence the addition of some business jet livery models in the potential first addition of this pack I added to this topic. If the GA operators have a IATA/ICAO Code ( eg. ExecJet 1l/EJA) then can see no reason why not as would not want to "create" a plethora of codes as its bad enough with the Cargo ones that have been added since the new cargo models were added to game and is a particular dislike for some of the contributors in the forum as well, Gary
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Hi Charles, Thanks for your response. Not a cop out but was not involved in the Retro Pack as from memory @hexzedran this for Gabor and I had not realised that the plan was for ND to release further updates for free on this one. To be clear to all, IF this happens each release of a pack would be at the proposed cost on release to purchase, not a one off subscription buys all. A full description of what is included will be in release information and I of course would update my Master List at the same time for potential purchasers to make their own decisions to buy or not. Gary
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No worries Brad and appreciate the support. Definitely not wound up. I message with a lot of contributors offline on this forum and I know where most of them are coming from. Everyone is entitled to their view and as long as it's not personal, is respectful and actually contributes to the debate and aids the community, all for the good. G
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Hi matey, Thanks for the feedback and your personal views. I think others will share this and others will have a differing view, hence the poll to gauge interest. Knowing this community it will be split down the middle between the dislike's of this version and others who still enjoy it. If its a non starter, then fair enough at least it keeps the interest up and I will crawl back under my rock and await the new version whenever that will be! If the later at least I don't need to keep the Master List updated 🙃 Gary
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I did say more than likely but I guess that depends on timings of the new release and developer time available to make and for me to test the packs. I guess not all people will switch to the new version anyway and although people moan and groan about the current version there are still a lot of people out there who enjoy the game for what it is and may want to keep abreast of new airlines and livery updates for this version. Just a idea to keep interest up. If not enough interest or NygeresDesign think the negative comments don't make it worthwhile or financial viable I have only wasted my time not others.
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Tower 3D Pro - Real Colors/Aircraft Master List by Airport
Pedantic G replied to Pedantic G's topic in ATC Simulators
All, I have created a topic and poll re the way forward on Real Color Packs. Please stop by and review and cast your vote please Thanks- 398 replies
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All, Now that no new airports will be produced in the current version of Tower! 3D Pro by either FeelThere and NygeresDesign, I have been thinking of way to provide and update for new airlines and liveries etc. for those that want to keep up to date with the real-world traffic in their schedules in this current version of the game. I have been speaking with Gabor at NygeresDesign about an idea of how to update the Real Colors packs and we have jointly come up with the idea of potentially providing what will be known as Real Colors Livery Update Packs on 2 or 3 times a year basis. This would similar to the Retro Pack that NygeresDesign issued a while ago. The price per pack would be US$5.99 Our thoughts on this are as follows: BASIC GENERAL RULES - Requests for updates would be limited in the most part for airlines/flights that are operating into airports that are already been issued in the current version of the game. - No one off or unique liveries would be considered - No new airframes will be considered but Cargo variants (without windows) of current airframes already in game would be considered. Real Traffic would be updated IF a new cargo variant is added. - New Airlines would need to be added to airport/airline files by the end user. This information will be supplied with the pack details and forum communications. - Flights to be added to their schedules by the end user - Circa 50 to 70 new additions would be in each pack as a minimum I would collate I have listed a poll to gauge interest in this (closes at midnight 31st August) and I have also attached a spreadsheet I started to put together based on my looking at the monthly airline magazine I subscribe to and PM's already sent to me for additions based on my Tower! 3D Pro - Real Colors/Aircraft Master List by Airport forum topic which I will continue to keep updated if people want to progress with this idea. As Gabor is busy at present working on the models for the new version of the game the first one would more than likely not be issued until the initial version of TOWER! SIMULATOR 3 is released. AT THIS STAGE PLEASE DO NOT SUBMIT TO ME ANY REQUESTS UNTIL I HAVE AGREEMENT TO PROCEED. If we get the green light with sufficient interest I will create a new topic to start the ball rolling. Gary RCLP1 List_Vs1.1.xlsx
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Seem to be spending an awful lot of time looking at something that will never be fixed as all development and any fixes on this version is now finished by both airport producers.
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Tower 3D Pro - Real Colors/Aircraft Master List by Airport
Pedantic G replied to Pedantic G's topic in ATC Simulators
Hi all, Following the release of the last airport in this game format and its associated airport RC Package, Vs_26 of the Master file now uploaded. With no more airports being produced now whilst we await the new version announced by FT of Tower! Simulator 3 this may well be the last version of this listing in this format. There are 184 additional listings for WSSS, the majority of which fly or have flown into Singapore Changi but as before an opportunity has been taken to update some cargo variant models and requests from community members where thought appropriate. Special comments on airlines who have ceased operating or have announced the cessation of flying specific airframe types have been updated if I have spotted them in airline press.- 398 replies
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Tower 3D Pro - Real Colors/Aircraft Master List by Airport
Pedantic G replied to Pedantic G's topic in ATC Simulators
I refer to @EliGrimcomment! Maybe download RT to the correct file path?- 398 replies
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Tower 3D Pro - Real Colors/Aircraft Master List by Airport
Pedantic G replied to Pedantic G's topic in ATC Simulators
I can fix anything and everything don't you know! 🤣- 398 replies
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Glad you are happy now 🙃
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Thanks Gabor. Someone will be happy! 😀