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Pete I'm using the default Lear45. The strange thing is, if I keep turning the FSX panel switch on and off a few times and then turn my physical APU RUN switch to on, then the APU starts and amperage is displayed but it doesn't work every time. When this happens the FSX APU switch does in fact move from OFF to START then back to RUN (just like it does when you use your mouse to start it), as opposed to what normally happens -- going from OFF to RUN and then back to the OFF position. I thought at first that it was my switch being "out of sync" with FSX but not so. By the way, I use APU OFF for my master APU switch and when I turn the master off, then the APU does in fact shut down. Thanks Alan

Pete I'm using APU Start from the drop down list in Buttons + Switches for a physical switch to start the APU. However when looking at the APU panel in FSX the switch goes from STOP to RUN then back to STOP. The APU ON light is illuminated but there is no amperage in the display. I can move the switch to START with my mouse and the APU starts okay. Does FSX not handle the APU start function correctly or do I need to use a different action? Thanks Alan

Pete The reason I tried using flags is that this entry in the INI file didn't work. Is the syntax not correct ( I followed the example in the Advanced User Guide). Switch 72,7 operates the APU irrespective of the position of switch 72,0 Alan 90=P72,0,C1126,0 91=U72,0,C66705,0 92=CR(+72,0)72,7,C66704,1 93=P72,7,C66704,1 94=U72,7,C66704,1

Pete I'm trying to get a conditional button entry in the INI file to work but so far I've not had any luck. Button 72,0 is a latching switch and it needs to be in the down (ON) position before button 72,7 operates. In Buttons + Switches for button 72,0 I used Button Flag Set for ON and Button Flag Clear for OFF (I also set APU OFF for the switch OFF position too). Can you please take a look at my INI file to see if I've got the syntax wrong. Thanks Alan [General] UpdatedByVersion=4900 History=HQ46AE9HVH2QCOVXPPI3P InitDelayDevicesToo=No UseMidMouseBtn=Yes MouseWheelMove=No MouseWheelTrim=No MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1 JoystickTimeout=20 PollGFTQ6=Yes BlankDisplays=No FixControlAccel=No FixMachSpeedBug=No DeleteVehiclesForAES=Yes AutoScanDevices=Yes VisibilityOptions=No OneCloudLayer=No CloudTurbulence=No CloudIcing=No GenerateCirrus=No SuppressCloudTurbulence=No MaxIce=-4 MinIce=-4 UpperWindGusts=No SuppressWindTurbulence=No SuppressWindVariance=No WindTurbulence=No TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0 TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40 SuppressAllGusts=No MaxSurfaceWind=0 WindLimitLevel=200 WindDiscardLevel=400 WindAjustAltitude=No WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000 SmoothBySimTime=No WindSmoothing=No WindSmoothness=2 WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes PressureSmoothness=0 TemperatureSmoothness=0 DisconnTrimForAP=No ZeroElevForAPAlt=No ThrottleSyncAll=No WhiteMessages=No ShowPMcontrols=No SpoilerIncrement=512 MagicBattery=No RudderSpikeRemoval=No ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No AileronSpikeRemoval=No ReversedElevatorTrim=No ClockSync=No ClockSyncMins=5 ClearWeatherDynamics=No OwnWeatherChanges=No TimeForSelect=4 LoadFlightMenu=No LoadPlanMenu=No PauseAfterCrash=No BrakeReleaseThreshold=75 SaveDataWithFlights=No ZapSound=firework ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring UseProfiles=Yes EnableMouseLook=No AxesWrongRange=No TCASid=Flight TCASrange=40 AxisCalibration=No DirectAxesToCalibs=No ShowMultilineWindow=No SuppressSingleline=No SuppressMultilineFS=Yes AxisIntercepts=No DontResetAxes=No InitDelay=0 GetNearestAirports=Yes OOMcheck=Yes WeatherReadFactor=2 WeatherRewriteSeconds=1 CustomWeatherModify=No SimConnectStallTime=1 LuaRerunDelay=66 Console=No ConsoleWindow=150,150,827,545 LogExtras=x2 LogAxes=Yes LogLua=Yes FSVersionUsed="Microsoft Flight Simulator X",10.0.61472.0 SimConnectUsed=10.0.61259.0 LogEvents=Yes LogReads=Yes LogButtonsKeys=Yes [window.LUA display] Docked=7350, 2828, 3532, 2459 [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=Yes A=BU0836 Interface B=Virtual Joystick A.GUID={486EF670-8BD6-11E2-8001-444553540000} B.GUID={7BA4DE70-8BDA-11E2-8002-444553540000} 0=BU0836 Interface 0.GUID={486EF670-8BD6-11E2-8001-444553540000} 1=Virtual Joystick 1.GUID={7BA4DE70-8BDA-11E2-8002-444553540000} 2=Virtual Joystick 2.GUID={80C212B0-8BDA-11E2-8003-444553540000} 3=Virtual Joystick 3.GUID={A30E3C60-BBDA-11E2-8007-444553540000} C=Virtual Joystick C.GUID={80C212B0-8BDA-11E2-8003-444553540000} D=Virtual Joystick D.GUID={A30E3C60-BBDA-11E2-8007-444553540000} [WideServer] WideFSenabled=Yes AdvertiseService=1 Port=8002 Port2=9002 [sounds] Path=E:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Sound\ Device1=Primary Sound Driver Device2=SAMSUNG-1 (NVIDIA High Definition Audio) Device3=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device) Device4=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device) [AutoSave] AutoSaveEnabled=No Next=1 Interval=60 Files=10 SaveOnGround=No [GPSout] GPSoutEnabled=No Port=COM0 Speed=4800 Interval=2000 PosTo6Decimal=No Sentences= [GPSout2] GPSoutEnabled=No Port=<none set> Speed=4800 Interval=2000 PosTo6Decimal=No Sentences= [Programs] [ClientNames] 1=AVIONICS [Monitor] Display=1 [JoystickCalibration] AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=Yes ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Elevator=-11276,3360,7264,11936 Rudder=-15892,-164,546,15182 RightBrake=-16384,15798 !1=T PropPitch=-16380,16380 Throttle1=-10768,22,512,14406/48 Throttle2=-9944,36,512,14830/48 FlapStarts=-16384,128,7432,12528 FlapEnds=-11731,1504,8216,16384 Flaps=0,16380 Spoilers=13240,15944 Reverser=-16380,16380 Aileron=-10216,-450,352,9472 SlopeRightBrake=6 SlopeAileron=2 LeftBrake=-16384,-9445 [Axes] 0=AX,256,D,3,0,0,0 1=AY,256,D,8,0,0,0 2=AZ,256,D,7,0,0,0 3=AU,256,D,8,0,0,0 4=AV,256,D,8,0,0,0 5=AS,770,D,1,0,0,0 6=AT,576,D,2,0,0,0 7=BX,256,D,9,0,0,0 8=BY,287,D,10,0,0,0 9=BZ,256,D,22,0,0,0 10=BU,256,D,22,0,0,0 11=BV,256,D,23,0,0,0 12=BS,824,D,22,0,0,0 13=CX,256,D,9,0,0,0 14=CY,256,D,10,0,0,0 15=CU,256,D,10,0,0,0 16=CV,256,D,23,0,0,0 [buttons] Buttonrepeat=20,10 0=PB,0,Cx0D0073F8,x01 2=PB,5,Cx050073F8,x20 4=PB,1,Cx050073F8,x02 5=PB,14,C66040,16211 6=UB,1,Cx090073F8,x02 7=UB,0,Cx090073F8,x01 8=PB,2,Cx050073F8,x04 9=UB,2,Cx090073F8,x04 10=PB,3,Cx050073F8,x08 11=UB,3,Cx090073F8,x08 12=PB,4,Cx050073F8,x10 13=UB,4,Cx090073F8,x10 14=UB,5,Cx090073F8,x20 15=PB,13,Cx050073D5,x40 18=UB,13,Cx090073D5,x40 19=PB,7,Cx050073F9,x01 20=UB,7,Cx090073F9,x01 21=PB,8,Cx050073F9,x02 22=UB,8,Cx090073F9,x02 23=PB,9,Cx050073F9,x04 24=UB,9,Cx090073F9,x04 25=PB,10,Cx050073F9,x08 26=UB,10,Cx090073F9,x08 27=PB,11,Cx050073F9,x10 28=UB,11,Cx090073F9,x10 29=PB,12,Cx050073F9,x20 30=UB,12,Cx090073F9,x20 31=RB,19,Cx110073FD,x00FF0001 32=RB,18,Cx210073FD,x00FF0001 33=RB,23,Cx110073FC,x00FF0001 34=RB,22,Cx210073FC,x00FF0001 35=RB,21,Cx210073D2,x00FF0001 36=RB,20,Cx110073D2,x00FF0001 37=RB,25,Cx110073D7,x00FF0001 38=RB,24,Cx210073D7,x00FF0001 39=RB,27,Cx210073D8,x00FF0001 40=RB,26,Cx11000049,x00FF0001 41=RB,29,C65883,1 42=RB,28,C65884,1 70=PB,6,C65821,0 71=UB,6,C65821,-4096 72=P72,0,C1003,1 73=R72,1,C65615,0 74=R72,2,C65607,0 75=R72,4,C66279,1 76=R72,5,C66276,1 77=R72,3,C66278,4 78=PC,4,Cx02000BC8,x0000 80=PC,5,C65820,0 81=UC,5,C65820,-4096 82=PC,6,C65821,0 83=UC,6,C65821,-4096 84=PC,2,C65983,0 85=UC,2,C65987,0 86=PC,3,C65988,0 87=UC,3,C65992,0 88=UC,4,Cx02000BC8,x7FFF 89=R72,6,C66277,1 90=P72,7,C66704,1 91=U72,0,C1004,1 92=U72,0,C66705,1 93=P72,7,C66704,1 94=U72,7,C66704,1 95=CP(F+72,0)72,7 [MacroFiles] 1=iFly737 2=leveld767 [LuaFiles] 1=ipcReady 2=linda

Pete If I click on Settings, in Start Up the Automatic load FSI-File box is checked and FSUIPC.FSI is in the box to the right. However if I search for that file on the PC it does not find it. I downloaded the SDK again and this time it worked okay. Not sure why it didn't the first time. Thanks Alan

I was running the very useful program FS Interrogator on my client machine and it automatically populated the screen with all the Offsets. I loaded it on my server, but when I open it there is a <No data to display> message in the main window and the messages at the bottom of the screen say: FSUIPC: 4.9 WideFS: No FS: FSX Status: Connected (FSUIPC/WideFS is responding). Do I need to change a setting somewhere? Thanks Alan

Thanks Pete Alan

Is it necessary to calibrate joysticks in Windows (not FSX) prior to assigning axes in FSUIPC? Thanks Alan

Okay thanks for that. I knew there had to be a simple explanation. Alan

Pete Not sure what's going on here, but if I use the values 0, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, etc as you described above, only 0, 1, 2, and 4 work for me -- 8, 16, and above aren't recognized in Buttons + Switches. What does work is if I use 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc., and they are recognized in Buttons + Switches as Joy# 72, Btn# 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 etc. I'm happy that all my trim functions work but I'd like to know why the value progression is different. Alan

Pete That screen shot was before I reprogrammed it. I used Set bit for ON and Clear bit for OFF. Works great. Now I can go on and program the rudder. Thanks Alan

Pete Now from your last reply; The log would record EVERY single change in the switch, but there is NO change -- once you've pressed it it remains looking pressed until you've pressed another, different switch. It became clear that the problem was that I had not put an entry in InterfaceIT for the Up (Off) function of the switch so there was no change of state from the initial press. Heres what InterfaceIT can do when Updating FSUIPC for both Down (On) and Up (Off) switch actions Type options: Byte Float64 Longint Longword Shortint Smallint Unknown Word Operation options: Decrement Increment None Clearbit Setbit Setbit then reset Set value Set value then zero Toggle bit Unknown There are also boxes for entering the following: Value Maximum value Minimum value Sleep And of course the actual offset. I finaslly figured it out. I used the 3360 offset, Byte Set bit with a value of 1 for Nose Down Trim switch Down (On) and Clear bit with a value of 1. I then used the 3360 offset, Byte Set bit with a value of 2 for Nose Down Trim switch Down (On) and Clear bit with a value of 2. In FSUIPC Buttons + Switches the Nose Up and Nose Down switch presses were recognized and I used Elevator Trim Up with a Parameter of x01 and Elevator Trim Down with a Parameter of x02 with the Control to repeat while held box checked. Works like a charm. :razz: Thanks for your frustrated help. :???: Alan

Pete Okay let's get back to basics as it's obvious I'm frustrating you and not getting my issue across. The trim switch is just like any other momentary switch in my cockpit. I push the switch and it records in FSUIPC Buttons + Switches as Joy# 72 Btn 2 (for nose up) and Btn 3 (for nose down ). If I don't use offsets and take the suggestion of Alaxus and just use the Elev Trim Up and Elev Trim Down controls, then one would think that every time I push and release the switch to trim the nose up then I should see a movement of the trim switch in FSX. I do see a movement the first time I press it but none the next or the next or the next. It seems as if FSUIPC recognizes that first push of the switch but doesn't for every subsequent push. The only time I can get the switch in FSX to respond is if I then push it to trim the nose down. Then subsequent pushes of the switch to trim the nose down are not recognized. I don't know where the issue is. It's not the switch because I have two switches to trim -- one on the console and one on the yoke and they are different switches but I get the same problem. Isn't there something in the log file that tells you what the switch is doing -- I pressed the switch up and down several times. Does it record any action on the second push of the switches? Thanks Alan

Pete Its just a simple switch with 4 terminals and a common ground. A push in any direction just closes the circuit for that particular direction. I cannot understand why after pressing the switch in one direction and getting a response from the switch in FSX, I get no response when I press the switch again in the same direction. I only get a response when pressing the switch in the opposite direction and then only once - I cannot get it to do it again. Closing the switch only sends an offset nothing more. Alan

Pete I have a real yoke from a Lear35. The top hat switch is on the left horn and is the actual Lear switch. It has four functions Elevator trim for Nose Up and Nose Down, as well as rudder trim for left and right. All functions are spring loaded. The console mounted trim switch is a reproduction of the real Lear 45 panel with primary and secondary elevator trim and rudder trim. Alan

Pete I tried the suggestion by Alaxus but when I presseed the trim button it goes from full nose up to full nose down. With the Control to repeat while held box unchecked it only increments once. As I said before if I press the trim switch once to pitch up I can see the Pitch Trim button on the Trim console in FSX move down but another press of the nose up switch does nothing. Same with the pitch down switch. Repeated presses of the switch in either direction has no effect the first press is the only one that has any effect. If I check the Control to repeat while held box and press the switch once (not holding it closed) the log entries: 678760 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=72, Btn=3, Pressed 678760 [buttons] 77=P72,3,C65615,0. Keep repeating until I stop the logging - Its as if I was holding the switch closed. Thanks Alan I entered offset 01f4 and started a log file and this is what I got ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.90 by Pete Dowson ********* User Name="ALAN NORRIS" User Addr="REDACTED" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WideFS7 Key is provided 675219 System time = 15/05/2013 08:07:55, Simulator time = 08:03:17 (12:03Z) [Continuation log requested by user] Running inside FSX on Windows 7 Module base=65A90000 675219 LogOptions changed, now 40000080 00000001 678760 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=72, Btn=2, Released 678760 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=72, Btn=3, Pressed 678760 [buttons] 77=P72,3,C65615,0 678760 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65615, Param=0 679977 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=72, Btn=2, Pressed 679977 [buttons] 74=P72,2,C65607,0 679977 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65607, Param=0 679977 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=72, Btn=3, Released 681053 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=72, Btn=2, Released 681053 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=72, Btn=3, Pressed 681053 [buttons] 77=P72,3,C65615,0 681053 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65615, Param=0 682785 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=72, Btn=2, Pressed 682785 [buttons] 74=P72,2,C65607,0 682785 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65607, Param=0 682785 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=72, Btn=3, Released 684282 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=72, Btn=2, Released 684282 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=72, Btn=3, Pressed 684282 [buttons] 77=P72,3,C65615,0 684282 FS Control Sent: Ctrl=65615, Param=0 693299 LogOptions changed, now 00000080 00000001 757088 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 64 secs = 70.9 fps [Log closed by user request, and continued in new file] 767197 System time = 15/05/2013 08:09:27, Simulator time = 08:04:37 (12:04Z) 767197 *** FSUIPC log file being closed Average frame rate for running time of 472 secs = 70.4 fps G3D fix: Passes 14195, Null pointers 0, Bad pointers 0, Separate instances 0 Memory managed: 359 Allocs, 257 Freed ********* FSUIPC Log file closed *********** Here is my whole INI file [General] UpdatedByVersion=4900 History=CUBT8IDOILQVJG95XXQBP InitDelayDevicesToo=No UseMidMouseBtn=Yes MouseWheelMove=No MouseWheelTrim=No MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1 JoystickTimeout=20 PollGFTQ6=Yes BlankDisplays=No FixControlAccel=No FixMachSpeedBug=No DeleteVehiclesForAES=Yes AutoScanDevices=Yes VisibilityOptions=No OneCloudLayer=No CloudTurbulence=No CloudIcing=No GenerateCirrus=No SuppressCloudTurbulence=No MaxIce=-4 MinIce=-4 UpperWindGusts=No SuppressWindTurbulence=No SuppressWindVariance=No WindTurbulence=No TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0 TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40 SuppressAllGusts=No MaxSurfaceWind=0 WindLimitLevel=200 WindDiscardLevel=400 WindAjustAltitude=No WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000 SmoothBySimTime=No WindSmoothing=No WindSmoothness=2 WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes PressureSmoothness=0 TemperatureSmoothness=0 DisconnTrimForAP=No ZeroElevForAPAlt=No ThrottleSyncAll=No WhiteMessages=No ShowPMcontrols=No SpoilerIncrement=512 MagicBattery=No RudderSpikeRemoval=No ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No AileronSpikeRemoval=No ReversedElevatorTrim=No ClockSync=No ClockSyncMins=5 ClearWeatherDynamics=No OwnWeatherChanges=No TimeForSelect=4 LoadFlightMenu=No LoadPlanMenu=No PauseAfterCrash=No BrakeReleaseThreshold=75 SaveDataWithFlights=No ZapSound=firework ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring UseProfiles=Yes EnableMouseLook=No AxesWrongRange=No TCASid=Flight TCASrange=40 AxisCalibration=No DirectAxesToCalibs=No ShowMultilineWindow=No SuppressSingleline=No SuppressMultilineFS=Yes AxisIntercepts=No DontResetAxes=No InitDelay=0 GetNearestAirports=Yes OOMcheck=Yes WeatherReadFactor=2 WeatherRewriteSeconds=1 CustomWeatherModify=No SimConnectStallTime=1 LuaRerunDelay=66 Console=No ConsoleWindow=150,150,827,545 FSVersionUsed="Microsoft Flight Simulator X",10.0.61472.0 SimConnectUsed=10.0.61259.0 [window.LUA display] Docked=7350, 2856, 3532, 2446 [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=Yes A=BU0836 Interface B=Virtual Joystick A.GUID={486EF670-8BD6-11E2-8001-444553540000} B.GUID={7BA4DE70-8BDA-11E2-8002-444553540000} 0=Virtual Joystick 0.GUID={7BA4DE70-8BDA-11E2-8002-444553540000} 1=BU0836 Interface 1.GUID={486EF670-8BD6-11E2-8001-444553540000} 2=Virtual Joystick 2.GUID={80C212B0-8BDA-11E2-8003-444553540000} 3=Virtual Joystick 3.GUID={A30E3C60-BBDA-11E2-8007-444553540000} C=Virtual Joystick C.GUID={80C212B0-8BDA-11E2-8003-444553540000} D=Virtual Joystick D.GUID={A30E3C60-BBDA-11E2-8007-444553540000} [WideServer] WideFSenabled=Yes AdvertiseService=1 Port=8002 Port2=9002 [sounds] Path=E:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Sound\ Device1=Primary Sound Driver Device2=SAMSUNG-1 (NVIDIA High Definition Audio) Device3=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device) Device4=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device) [AutoSave] AutoSaveEnabled=No Next=1 Interval=60 Files=10 SaveOnGround=No [GPSout] GPSoutEnabled=No Port=COM0 Speed=4800 Interval=2000 PosTo6Decimal=No Sentences= [GPSout2] GPSoutEnabled=No Port=<none set> Speed=4800 Interval=2000 PosTo6Decimal=No Sentences= [Programs] [ClientNames] 1=AVIONICS [Monitor] Display=1 Monitor0=0,01F4,2,0 [JoystickCalibration] AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=Yes ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16068,-512,512,16096 SlopeAileron=-7 Elevator=-16209,-512,512,16131 SlopeElevator=-6 Rudder=-13926,-492,512,16274 LeftBrake=-16384,16383 RightBrake=-16384,15798 !1=T PropPitch=-16380,16380 Throttle1=-10768,22,512,14406/48 Throttle2=-9944,36,512,14830/48 FlapStarts=-16384,-8,7216,12768 FlapEnds=-11771,1328,8520,16384 Flaps=0,16380 Spoilers=13240,15944 Reverser=-16380,16380 [Axes] 0=BX,256,D,9,0,0,0 1=BY,287,D,10,0,0,0 2=BZ,256,D,22,0,0,0 3=BU,256,D,22,0,0,0 4=BV,256,D,23,0,0,0 5=BS,824,D,22,0,0,0 6=AX,256,D,3,0,0,0 7=AU,256,D,7,0,0,0 8=AV,256,D,8,0,0,0 9=CX,256,D,9,0,0,0 10=CU,256,D,10,0,0,0 11=CV,256,D,23,0,0,0 [buttons] 0=PB,0,Cx0D0073F8,x01 2=PB,5,Cx050073F8,x20 4=PB,1,Cx050073F8,x02 5=PB,14,C66040,16211 6=UB,1,Cx090073F8,x02 7=UB,0,Cx090073F8,x01 8=PB,2,Cx050073F8,x04 9=UB,2,Cx090073F8,x04 10=PB,3,Cx050073F8,x08 11=UB,3,Cx090073F8,x08 12=PB,4,Cx050073F8,x10 13=UB,4,Cx090073F8,x10 14=UB,5,Cx090073F8,x20 15=PB,13,Cx050073D5,x40 18=UB,13,Cx090073D5,x40 19=PB,7,Cx050073F9,x01 20=UB,7,Cx090073F9,x01 21=PB,8,Cx050073F9,x02 22=UB,8,Cx090073F9,x02 23=PB,9,Cx050073F9,x04 24=UB,9,Cx090073F9,x04 25=PB,10,Cx050073F9,x08 26=UB,10,Cx090073F9,x08 27=PB,11,Cx050073F9,x10 28=UB,11,Cx090073F9,x10 29=PB,12,Cx050073F9,x20 30=UB,12,Cx090073F9,x20 31=RB,19,Cx110073FD,x00FF0001 32=RB,18,Cx210073FD,x00FF0001 33=RB,23,Cx110073FC,x00FF0001 34=RB,22,Cx210073FC,x00FF0001 35=RB,21,Cx210073D2,x00FF0001 36=RB,20,Cx110073D2,x00FF0001 37=RB,25,Cx110073D7,x00FF0001 38=RB,24,Cx210073D7,x00FF0001 39=RB,27,Cx210073D8,x00FF0001 40=RB,26,Cx11000049,x00FF0001 41=RB,29,C65883,1 42=RB,28,C65884,1 50=PB,0,C3,0 51=PB,1,C65552,0 54=PB,2,C65983,1 55=PB,3,C65988,1 56=PB,5,C65820,0 60=PB,4,C65588,0 66=UB,4,C65752,0 67=UB,5,C65820,-4096 Buttonrepeat=20,10 68=UB,2,C65987,1 69=UB,3,C65992,1 70=PB,6,C65821,0 71=UB,6,C65821,-4096 72=P72,0,C1126,0 73=P72,1,Cx05000B51,x01 74=P72,2,C65607,255 75=P72,4,Cx42000BC0,xC00101F4 76=P72,5,Cx32000BC0,x3FFF01F4 77=P72,3,C65615,255 78=PC,4,Cx02000BC8,x0000 80=PC,5,C65820,0 81=UC,5,C65820,-4096 82=PC,6,C65821,0 83=UC,6,C65821,-4096 84=PC,2,C65983,0 85=UC,2,C65987,0 86=PC,3,C65988,0 87=UC,3,C65992,0 88=UC,4,Cx02000BC8,x7FFF [MacroFiles] 1=iFly737 2=leveld767 [buttons] Buttonrepeat=20,10 [LuaFiles] 1=ipcReady 2=linda

Pete Let me try what Alaxus suggested first and if that doesn't work (and there is no reason it shouldn't as he runs a Lear45 the same as me) I'll post the information you asked for. By the way on your comment "But unfortunately the log extract you showed me only shows button 2 being pressed and released once, and button 3 pressed and released once, so naturally you'd get one increment and one decrement" Yes that is correct but if I press button 2 again and again (to trim up) I get no movement on the trim indicator on the EICAS -- just for the first press. Thanks Alan

Pete I have monitored the nose up and nose down trim switches on my center console (switches 72,2 and 72,3) (switches 72,4 & 72,5 are on my yoke). The log file is attached as well as the entries for the switches in the ini file. Please let me know if you can see anything out of wack. Thanks Alan Heres the additional entries in the INI file (let me know if you need the whole file again). 75=P72,2,Cx42000BC0,xC00101F4 76=P72,3,Cx32000BC0,x3FFF01F4 77=P72,4,Cx42000BC0,xC00101F4 78=P72,5,Cx32000BC0,x3FFF01F4 Here are the button log file with the Control to repeat if held box un-checked. When I push the spring loaded switch and release it the EICAS PITCH display moves from 0.0 to -0.3 and moves back to 0.0 with a press of the nose up switch (the value seems to be a function of the offset increment) but thats all -- repeated presses of the switch dont change anything. If I check the Control to repeat while held box then press and release the spring loaded switch, the log file entries just keep repeaing until I cancel it. ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.90 by Pete Dowson ********* User Name="ALAN NORRIS" User Addr="REDACTED BY ME" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WideFS7 Key is provided 1696839 System time = 10/05/2013 11:05:16, Simulator time = 10:56:05 (14:56Z) [Continuation log requested by user] Running inside FSX on Windows 7 Module base=0C300000 1696854 LogOptions changed, now 40000080 00000001 1711924 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=72, Btn=2, Released 1711924 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=72, Btn=3, Pressed 1711924 [buttons] 77=P72,3,Cx42000BC0,x3FFF01F4 1711924 IPC Offsets Control: Ctrl=x4200, Length=2, Offset=0BC0, Param=x3FFF01F4 1713422 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=72, Btn=2, Pressed 1713422 [buttons] 74=P72,2,Cx32000BC0,x3FFF01F4 1713422 IPC Offsets Control: Ctrl=x3200, Length=2, Offset=0BC0, Param=x3FFF01F4 1713422 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=72, Btn=3, Released

Pete I'm sorry if you think that but I was originally asking about rudder trim and now I'm referring to rudder and elevator trim because if we fix one we fix the other. Alan Pete I hope you enjoy your time away from the forum (and questions like mine :mad: ) and I will enable button logging and let you have the results. BTW I love steam trains -- I miss that era when I used to catch a train from Redditch to Birmingham with a few ten shilling notes in my wallet. I would then change trains at New Street station to catch one to West Bromwich to see my auntie, uncle and cousins. Alan

Pete I cant comment on the functionality of the FDS program. All I can do is to enter the offsets and values. I will take this up with FDS to see why its not writing them properly. (I have attached a screen shot of the InterfaceIT window). In the meantime I set the switches for nose up and nose down on my center console and also on my yoke as buttons on offset 3360 in InterfaceIT and they are recognized in FSUIPC as buttons 2, 3, 4, & 5 on joystick 72. In the Buttons + Switches section I programmed the Nose Up switches on Offset 0BC0 SWord Increment with a value of 500/16383. Same for Nose Down but with Decrement 500/-16383. Now what happens is that the pitch goes from 0.0 to 0.3 with one push of the spring loaded nose down switch (and from 0.3 to 0.0 with a push of the nose up switch and that's it. If I check the box Control to repeat if held, the pitch goes from either full nose down to full nose up with a single press of the switch. Heres the additional entries in the INI file (let me know if you need the whole file again). Thanks Alan 75=P72,2,Cx42000BC0,xC00101F4 76=P72,3,Cx32000BC0,x3FFF01F4 77=P72,4,Cx42000BC0,xC00101F4 78=P72,5,Cx32000BC0,x3FFF01F4 FDS InterfaceIT switch programming window.

Pete I think the issue is that I'm using Flight Deck Solutions InterfaceIT program that writes the offsets direct to FSX which is why they are not in the INI file. I had this issue before when I wanted to add a button condiiton. I had to make InterfaceIT emulate a joystick button (joystick 72) so I could program it in FSUIPC. Let me do the same for these elevator and rudder switches and see where we go from here. The AVIONICS is the name of my client PC by the way. Thanks Alan

Pete Here is the relevant entries from the log file for monitoring offset 0BC0 (and no,at my age Im beyond being shy :cool:). The switch actions are erratic - I haven't changed anything. For instance some times it will work fine then the next time it will only work for Nose Down. On other occassions I got readings both ways. I think you will see that last two entries are when I couldnt get the Nose Up function to work but had to move the switch twice to get the Nose Down to register. Thanks Alan 1150289 WideFS: write to 0BC0 from skt=7764 ("AVIONICS"), program Id=1456 1150289 Monitor IPC:0BC0 (S16) = -2055 1150305 Monitor IPC:0BC0 (S16) = -2054 1150305 SimRead: 0BC0="ELEVATOR TRIM PCT" FLT64: -12.5434933091 1156810 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 22 secs = 71.7 fps 1163877 WideFS: write to 0BC0 from skt=7764 ("AVIONICS"), program Id=1456 1164002 Monitor IPC:0BC0 (S16) = -3082 1259381 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 23 secs = 71.8 fps 1265964 WideFS: write to 0BC0 from skt=7764 ("AVIONICS"), program Id=1456 1266104 Monitor IPC:0BC0 (S16) = -4110 1275511 WideFS: write to 0BC0 from skt=7764 ("AVIONICS"), program Id=1456 1275589 Monitor IPC:0BC0 (S16) = -5138 1285995 WideFS: write to 0BC0 from skt=7764 ("AVIONICS"), program Id=1456 1286073 Monitor IPC:0BC0 (S16) = -6166 [Log closed by user request, and continued in new file] 1615126 System time = 09/05/2013 13:08:05, Simulator time = 12:58:55 (16:58Z) 1615126 *** FSUIPC log file being closed Average frame rate for running time of 1063 secs = 77.0 fps G3D fix: Passes 14377, Null pointers 0, Bad pointers 0, Separate instances 0 Memory managed: 636 Allocs, 523 Freed ********* FSUIPC Log file closed *********** This is my INI file [General] UpdatedByVersion=4900 History=XK5BX83I0BOODP80SSL6E InitDelayDevicesToo=No UseMidMouseBtn=Yes MouseWheelMove=No MouseWheelTrim=No MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1 JoystickTimeout=20 PollGFTQ6=Yes BlankDisplays=No FixControlAccel=No FixMachSpeedBug=No DeleteVehiclesForAES=Yes AutoScanDevices=Yes VisibilityOptions=No OneCloudLayer=No CloudTurbulence=No CloudIcing=No GenerateCirrus=No SuppressCloudTurbulence=No MaxIce=-4 MinIce=-4 UpperWindGusts=No SuppressWindTurbulence=No SuppressWindVariance=No WindTurbulence=No TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0 TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40 SuppressAllGusts=No MaxSurfaceWind=0 WindLimitLevel=200 WindDiscardLevel=400 WindAjustAltitude=No WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000 SmoothBySimTime=No WindSmoothing=No WindSmoothness=2 WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes PressureSmoothness=0 TemperatureSmoothness=0 DisconnTrimForAP=No ZeroElevForAPAlt=No ThrottleSyncAll=No WhiteMessages=No ShowPMcontrols=No SpoilerIncrement=512 MagicBattery=No RudderSpikeRemoval=No ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No AileronSpikeRemoval=No ReversedElevatorTrim=No ClockSync=No ClockSyncMins=5 ClearWeatherDynamics=No OwnWeatherChanges=No TimeForSelect=4 LoadFlightMenu=No LoadPlanMenu=No PauseAfterCrash=No BrakeReleaseThreshold=75 SaveDataWithFlights=No ZapSound=firework ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring UseProfiles=Yes EnableMouseLook=No AxesWrongRange=No TCASid=Flight TCASrange=40 AxisCalibration=No DirectAxesToCalibs=No ShowMultilineWindow=Yes SuppressSingleline=No SuppressMultilineFS=No AxisIntercepts=No DontResetAxes=No InitDelay=0 GetNearestAirports=Yes OOMcheck=Yes WeatherReadFactor=2 WeatherRewriteSeconds=1 CustomWeatherModify=No SimConnectStallTime=1 LuaRerunDelay=66 Console=No FSVersionUsed="Microsoft Flight Simulator X",10.0.61472.0 SimConnectUsed=10.0.61259.0 ConsoleWindow=150,150,827,509 LogEvents=Yes LogButtonsKeys=Yes [window.LUA display] Docked=7356, 2856, 3534, 2446 [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=Yes A=BU0836 Interface B=Virtual Joystick A.GUID={486EF670-8BD6-11E2-8001-444553540000} B.GUID={7BA4DE70-8BDA-11E2-8002-444553540000} 0=Virtual Joystick 0.GUID={7BA4DE70-8BDA-11E2-8002-444553540000} [WideServer] WideFSenabled=Yes AdvertiseService=1 Port=8002 Port2=9002 [sounds] Path=E:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Sound\ Device1=Primary Sound Driver Device2=SAMSUNG-1 (NVIDIA High Definition Audio) Device3=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device) Device4=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device) [AutoSave] AutoSaveEnabled=No Next=1 Interval=60 Files=10 SaveOnGround=No [GPSout] GPSoutEnabled=No Port=COM0 Speed=4800 Interval=2000 PosTo6Decimal=No Sentences= [GPSout2] GPSoutEnabled=No Port=<none set> Speed=4800 Interval=2000 PosTo6Decimal=No Sentences= [Programs] [ClientNames] 1=AVIONICS [Monitor] Display=1 Monitor0=0,0BC0,2,0 [JoystickCalibration] AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=Yes ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16068,-512,512,16096 SlopeAileron=-7 Elevator=-16209,-512,512,16131 SlopeElevator=-6 Rudder=-13926,-492,512,16274 LeftBrake=-16384,16383 RightBrake=-16384,15798 !1=T PropPitch=-16380,16380 Throttle1=22,22,512,16384/48 Throttle2=36,36,512,16380/48 FlapStarts=-16384,0,11346,16072 FlapEnds=-15344,5084,12917,16384 Flaps=0,16380 Spoilers=13240,15944 Reverser=-16380,16380 [Axes] 0=BX,256,D,9,0,0,0 1=BY,287,D,10,0,0,0 2=BZ,256,D,22,0,0,0 3=BU,256,D,22,0,0,0 4=BV,256,D,23,0,0,0 5=BS,824,D,22,0,0,0 6=AX,256,D,3,0,0,0 7=AU,256,D,7,0,0,0 8=AV,256,D,8,0,0,0 [buttons] 0=P1001,0,Cx0D0073F8,x01 2=P1001,5,Cx050073F8,x20 4=P1001,1,Cx050073F8,x02 5=P1001,14,C66040,16211 6=U1001,1,Cx090073F8,x02 7=U1001,0,Cx090073F8,x01 8=P1001,2,Cx050073F8,x04 9=U1001,2,Cx090073F8,x04 10=P1001,3,Cx050073F8,x08 11=U1001,3,Cx090073F8,x08 12=P1001,4,Cx050073F8,x10 13=U1001,4,Cx090073F8,x10 14=U1001,5,Cx090073F8,x20 15=P1001,13,Cx050073D5,x40 18=U1001,13,Cx090073D5,x40 19=P1001,7,Cx050073F9,x01 20=U1001,7,Cx090073F9,x01 21=P1001,8,Cx050073F9,x02 22=U1001,8,Cx090073F9,x02 23=P1001,9,Cx050073F9,x04 24=U1001,9,Cx090073F9,x04 25=P1001,10,Cx050073F9,x08 26=U1001,10,Cx090073F9,x08 27=P1001,11,Cx050073F9,x10 28=U1001,11,Cx090073F9,x10 29=P1001,12,Cx050073F9,x20 30=U1001,12,Cx090073F9,x20 31=R1001,19,Cx110073FD,x00FF0001 32=R1001,18,Cx210073FD,x00FF0001 33=R1001,23,Cx110073FC,x00FF0001 34=R1001,22,Cx210073FC,x00FF0001 35=R1001,21,Cx210073D2,x00FF0001 36=R1001,20,Cx110073D2,x00FF0001 37=R1001,25,Cx110073D7,x00FF0001 38=R1001,24,Cx210073D7,x00FF0001 39=R1001,27,Cx210073D8,x00FF0001 40=R1001,26,Cx11000049,x00FF0001 41=R1001,29,C65883,1 42=R1001,28,C65884,1 50=PB,0,C3,0 51=PB,1,C65552,0 54=PB,2,C65983,1 55=PB,3,C65988,1 56=PB,5,C65820,0 60=PB,4,C65588,0 66=UB,4,C65752,0 67=UB,5,C65820,-4096 Buttonrepeat=20,10 68=UB,2,C65987,1 69=UB,3,C65992,1 70=PB,6,C65821,0 71=UB,6,C65821,-4096 72=P72,0,C1126,0 73=P72,1,Cx05000B51,x01 [MacroFiles] 1=iFly737 2=leveld767 [buttons] Buttonrepeat=20,10 [LuaFiles] 1=ipcReady 2=linda

Pete Sorry I should have been more specific. I'm trying to program my yoke top hatch switch that trims the elevator (nose up/nose down) and rudder (left/right). I used the example from page 31 of the User Guide (the box with Offset Increment/Decrement Controls examples for elevator, rudder, and ailerons). I'm programming my switches in Flight Deck Systems InterfaceIT software. I should add, that my elevator controls are now only acting in one direction -- same as the rudder. Thanks Alan

I'm using these settings to trim my rudder from the User Guide (yes I do read it :razz: ): Offest: 0C04 Type: Word Decrement (for left trim) and Increment (for right trim) Value: 1000 Minimum value: -16383 (for left trim) Maximum value: 16383 (for right trim) The problem is that the trim only works for trimming to the left (a decrement), I can only get it to work in one direction -- not both. I thought I had the settings okay and it works fine for pitch trim using offset 0BC0 Thanks Alan

OK :oops: