mach2000 Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Installed 4.924 this evening... wish I hadn't. I noticed slight pauses in frames periodically that I've never experienced before. After completing the flight and exiting FSX, the program would crash on exit and attempt to restart. Had to finally cancel the restart to avoid an endless loop. I confirmed it was FSUIPC by removing the .dll from modules... the frame hitches and program crash went away. I'm a little worried that supporting the new P3D in the FSX module may be adding some bloat to the system. Now I'm wishing I kept my tried and true version from earlier this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mach2000 Posted December 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Update: First let me apologize for the bloat comment... it would seem that my micro-stutters were more a result of the scenery I had loaded than any performance issue with new FSUIPC version. I reverted back to 4.90 and got very similar performance to 4.924. However, I can confirm that 4.924 is responsible for the crash on exit; FSX exits normally using 4.90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andydigital Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Mine doesn't crash on exit and I use FSX and P3DV2. Perhaps your default flight is corrupted, try deleting it and try again. I had a crash at startup the very first time I used 4.924, it was fine at every start and closure from that point onwards though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 First let me apologize for the bloat comment... it would seem that my micro-stutters were more a result of the scenery I had loaded than any performance issue with new FSUIPC version. I reverted back to 4.90 and got very similar performance to 4.924. However, I can confirm that 4.924 is responsible for the crash on exit; FSX exits normally using 4.90. Have you any information on the crash: error type, module name, offset, etc? See the Windows event viewer. Such information is always needed. However, there's no more reason for 4.924 to cause FSX to crash on exit than any other version. All that will be different as far as termination is concerned is the layout of memory because of the different sizes of things. If such minor changes appears to cause problems it is almost always because there was a problem in the first place but it was inconsequential with a different memory content. On top of that, FSUIPC is a tool used by many other add-ons and add-ins, any of which could also account for a difference with and without fSUIPC installed. I suggest that you conduct a series of eliminations to see which other add-on will be contributing to the problem. For add-in modules you can edit the DLL.XML file to disable loading of each in turn. You may also find that re-ordering some of the entries in the DLL.XML file will help. Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Duke Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Pete: I'm having the same issue since updating to 4.924 - an api.dll crash upon exiting FSX. It happens even when running just the default Cessna at a default airport with no other add-ons running. Here's the Event Viewer info: Faulting application name: fsx.exe, version: 10.0.61637.0, time stamp: 0x46fadb14 Faulting module name: API.DLL, version: 10.0.61637.0, time stamp: 0x46fadb58 Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0x00017177 Faulting process id: 0x220 Faulting application start time: 0x01cef59d616c6d16 Faulting application path: F:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\fsx.exe Faulting module path: F:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\API.DLL Report Id: c14671d0-6190-11e3-bfa0-001fbc0d61f0 Thanks for your help! Jerry Post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Pete, I am seeing an API.dll crash on exit also after installing ASN along with FSUIPC 4.924. I stripped down the dll.xml and started adding each product back one at a time. Three entries cause the issue two of them from Feelthere, E145XH.dll and EjetH.dll and also the LevelD lvld.dll. Adding any one of those back causes the API.dll crash on exit. I shall try re-ordering but the file has been in this order for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 I'm having the same issue since updating to 4.924 - an api.dll crash upon exiting FSX. It happens even when running just the default Cessna at a default airport with no other add-ons running. Here's the Event Viewer info: Can you try changing the FSUIPC4.INI file [General] parameter "InterceptTextMenu=Yes" to No, please, and let me know if that fixes it? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 With the full dll.xml restored and the "InterceptTextMenu=No" entry I no longer have the api.dll crash on exit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 With the full dll.xml restored and the "InterceptTextMenu=No" entry I no longer have the api.dll crash on exit. Okay. So at least I know it is related to my SimConnect_Text hook into API.DLL. I can only think that one of the add-ons you are using sends a text message for display when FSX is closing and somehow it happens after FSUIPC4 has closed, or at least got past the point when it is handling the messages. I use the hook all the time for display of GSX messages and menus, and ASN weather data, on a screen inside my cockpit, and there's no problem closing FSX here, but then probably nothing I'm using sends a "goodbye" message. For now leave the parameter set to 'No' whilst I look for a solution. I did think having it defaulted enabled would be safe, like my other hooks, but it seems not. :-( Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mach2000 Posted December 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 It will be a couple hours before I can try it on my rig with the "InterceptTextMenu=No" entry; but I know that I'm using both of the Feelthere modules (E145XH.dll and EJetH.dll). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japo32 Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Same problem.. crashing when exist FSX. With 4.923 no problem as I restored from my backup. sorry the event viewer to be in spanish... It is FSUIPC 4.924 issue. comming back to 23 resolves the problem: Nombre de la aplicación con errores: fsx.exe, versión: 10.0.61637.0, marca de tiempo: 0x46fadb14 Nombre del módulo con errores: API.DLL, versión: 10.0.61637.0, marca de tiempo: 0x46fadb58 Código de excepción: 0xc0000005 Desplazamiento de errores: 0x00017177 Id. del proceso con errores: 0x21b8 Hora de inicio de la aplicación con errores: 0x01cef5b9c68bcbc2 Ruta de acceso de la aplicación con errores: C:\FSX\fsx.exe Ruta de acceso del módulo con errores: C:\FSX\API.DLL Id. del informe: 32a0a820-61ad-11e3-b8dc-60a44c64939e details fsx.exe 10.0.61637.0 46fadb14 API.DLL 10.0.61637.0 46fadb58 c0000005 00017177 21b8 01cef5b9c68bcbc2 C:\FSX\fsx.exe C:\FSX\API.DLL 32a0a820-61ad-11e3-b8dc-60a44c64939e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Same problem.. crashing when exist FSX. With 4.923 no problem as I restored from my backup. Same solution as above, then. I'll post a version 4.924a for folks to try shortly. It undoes the hook into API.DLL before FSUIPC closes. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 I'll post a version 4.924a for folks to try shortly. It undoes the hook into API.DLL before FSUIPC closes. Okay. Please, all those getting this crash, please try 4.924a: FSUIPC4924a.zip Let me know, please. If okay I'll amend the main 4.924 packages. Thank you! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CXA001 Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Hi Pete, I was also having this issue. Installed the 4.924a DLL and it resolved the issue for me. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japo32 Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 it fixed for me also! great support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 it fixed for me also! great support! Ok, good. I'll change the main download packages and put 4.924a up separately for those who've already downloaded 4.924. Thanks! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Once again thanks for a speedy resolution Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Duke Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Can you try changing the FSUIPC4.INI file [General] parameter "InterceptTextMenu=Yes" to No, please, and let me know if that fixes it? Pete Can you try changing the FSUIPC4.INI file [General] parameter "InterceptTextMenu=Yes" to No, please, and let me know if that fixes it? Pete Pete: Sorry for the delay, but your quick response caught me enroute to Bermuda in the PMDG 777. Anyway, changing the .ini file did work for me, too. After that, I installed the new 4.924a module and reverted the .ini entry for "InterceptTextMenu" back to "Yes" and FSX closes out fine. Thanks for your quick response (as always) to my small niggle. Jerry Post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mach2000 Posted December 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 The fix works great. Thanks Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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