How can I delete P3D button control definitions?

[Detlef_747]

Hi everybody,

I am trying to assign Joystick Buttons to Elevator trim down and elivator trim up. And trim down works but trim up causes P3D to cycle through the views. I tried to delete the Control assignment in P3D that I had set earlier in the P3D menu but somehow the sim still uses that old button assignment and ignores the FSUIPC button assigment.

Do you know how I can delete all Joystick button definitions from P3D? I want to program them using FSUIPC.

Thank you

Detlef

 

[Primesim]

So I have had this happen in the past, sometimes you have to delete the control in the P3D Controls menu multiple times for it to 'stick', also when deleting the control, make sure your device is selected in the drop down menu.  If you have more devices, like a joystick, throttle quadrant, and rudder pedals, P3D treats them all separate and assigns the same controls to each device, so even if you delete "Change View" with your throttle quadrant selected in the drop-down menu, it will still retain the "Change View" assignment for any other devices you have connected (like a joystick for example).

[aua668]

Hi,

 

If you use only FSUIPC for your assignments, you could eliminate all assignments of the P3D control configuration file with an editor and make it afterwards read-only. Then no automatically added assignments to axis, buttons, etc. will happen anymore. I am currently not at my PC but I think it should be here: 

%APPDATA%\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D\Controls\Standard.xml

Rgds
Reinhard

[DaveG]

I just disable controllers entirely in p3d (there's a checkbox for it) and assign everything via fsuipc. 

[John Dowson]

28 minutes ago, DaveG said:

I just disable controllers entirely in p3d (there's a checkbox for it) and assign everything via fsuipc. 

This is the recommended method.

[Detlef_747]

Hello everybody,
I got it solved following your advice, so thank you. I changed every control within P3D that was assigned to a button to the same button, thus effectively removing all button assignments. I saved that configuration as buttons_deleted in case I need it at some time. Then I unchecked controllers in the P3D settings. 

Still after that I had trouble with elevator up button assignments. My impression is for elevator trim up I may have used the wrong control, since the aircraft control surface change from the trim fought against the control stick. In any case, I assigned the buttons to Pos1(home) and End keys now. That worked. And I did a lot of other button programming in FSUIPC which also worked. Oh and also I reassigned all axis to FSUIPC. I have a Logitech joystick and CH products throttle control and rudders.

Again, thanks for your help
Detlef
 

[Thomas Richter]

Hi,

best is to attach your FSUIPC INI file that makes it easier to actually see what you have assigned.

Thomas

[Detlef_747]

Hi Thomas,

yes I see. Thank you and here it comes.

Detlef

[General]
UpdatedByVersion=5152
History=K8WWIYSSL0KJVKHEHSL64
InitDelayDevicesToo=No
PMDG737offsets=Auto
PMDG747offsets=Auto
PMDG777offsets=Auto
Annotate=Yes
UseSystemTime=No
UseMidMouseBtn=Yes
MouseWheelMove=No
MouseWheelTrim=No
MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1
JoystickTimeout=20
RestoreSimcWindows=No
FixMachSpeedBug=No
AutoScanDevices=Yes
DisconnTrimForAP=No
ZeroElevForAPAlt=No
ThrottleSyncAll=No
WhiteMessages=No
ShowPMcontrols=No
SpoilerIncrement=512
MagicBattery=No
RudderSpikeRemoval=No
ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No
AileronSpikeRemoval=No
ReversedElevatorTrim=No
ClockSync=No
ClockSyncMins=5
ClearWeatherDynamics=No
TimeForSelect=4
LoadFlightMenu=No
LoadPlanMenu=No
PauseAfterCrash=No
BrakeReleaseThreshold=75
SaveDataWithFlights=No
ZapSound=firework
ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring
UseProfiles=Yes
EnableMouseLook=No
DelayedMouseLookZoom=No
WideLuaGlobals=Yes
TextFileMaxRead=4095
TextFileNumbers=Yes
TextFilePhonetics=Yes
AxesWrongRange=No
TCASid=Flight
TCASrange=40,3
AxisCalibration=No
DirectAxesToCalibs=No
ShowMultilineWindow=Yes
SuppressSingleline=No
SuppressMultilineFS=No
AxisIntercepts=No
DontResetAxes=No
ThreadAffinityMask=x0
LuaAffinityMask=x0
InitDelay=0
GetNearestAirports=Yes
LogOptionProtect=Yes
TimeForLuaClosing=2
WeatherReadFactor=2
WeatherRewriteSeconds=1
TrafficStallTime=1
InitialStallTime=10
NormalStallTime=1
LuaRerunDelay=66
ComReadLoopTime=20
ControlsListBuild=30293
Console=No
LogLua=Yes
FSVersionUsed="Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v4",4.5.12.30293
SimConnectUsed=4.5.0.0

[Traffic Limiter]
AirportPreference=50
PlannedAirportsPreference=50
GroundPreference=50
NearerPreference=50
TargetFrameRate=0
TrafficLimit=0

[JoyNames]
AutoAssignLetters=No
1=Logitech Attack 3
1.GUID={52394020-B5E6-11E9-8003-444553540000}
0=CH Pro Pedals USB
0.GUID={5238F200-B5E6-11E9-8002-444553540000}
2=CH Pro Throttle USB
2.GUID={5239B550-B5E6-11E9-8007-444553540000}

[JoystickCalibration]
RudderBlendLowest=1
AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes
ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes
ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes
ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes
SepRevsJetsOnly=No
ApplyHeloTrim=No
UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No
FlapsSetControl=0
FlapDetents=No
ReverserControl=66292
Reverser1Control=66422
Reverser2Control=66425
Reverser3Control=66428
Reverser4Control=66431
MaxThrottleForReverser=256
AileronTrimControl=66731
RudderTrimControl=66732
CowlFlaps1Control=66162
CowlFlaps2Control=66163
CowlFlaps3Control=66164
CowlFlaps4Control=66165
SteeringTillerControl=0
MaxSteerSpeed=60
Rudder=-16380,-512,512,16380
Throttle=-16383,16380
LeftBrake=-16380,16380/16
RightBrake=-16380,16380/16

[Axes]
PollInterval=10
RangeRepeatRate=10
0=0X,256,D,7,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }-
1=0Y,256,D,8,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }-
2=0Z,256,D,3,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Rudder }-
3=1X,256,D,1,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Aileron }-
4=1Y,256,D,2,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Elevator }-
5=2X,256
6=2X,B,128,16255,65864,0    -{ Entering=LANDING_LIGHT_LEFT }-
7=2Z,256,D,4,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Throttle }-

[Buttons]
PollInterval=25
ButtonRepeat=20,10
1=P2,10,CL2:S,0     -{LuaSet RealSwitches (Flag 0)}-
2=P2,9,C1084,0     -{LuaKillAll}-
3=P2,0,CL1:D,0     -{LuaDebug ipcDebug}-
6=P1,10,CL6:R,0     -{Lua display_fuel}-
7=P1,9,C66708,0     -{EXTINGUISH_ENGINE_FIRE}-
8=P1,3,C65681,0     -{VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT}-
9=U1,3,C65674,0     -{VIEW_FORWARD}-
10=P1,4,C65675,0     -{VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT}-
11=U1,4,C65674,0     -{VIEW_FORWARD}-
12=R1,2,K36,8     -{Key press: Home}-
13=R1,1,K35,8     -{Key press: End}-
14=P2,13,K83,8     -{Key press: S}-
15=P2,15,K83,9     -{Key press: shft+S}-
16=P2,14,C66153,0     -{NEXT_SUB_VIEW}-
17=P2,12,C66154,0     -{PREV_SUB_VIEW}-
18=P2,7,C65827,0     -{NEXT_VIEW}-
19=P2,1,C65589,0     -{SPOILERS_TOGGLE}-
20=R2,2,K113,8     -{Key press: F2}-
22=P2,3,K112,8     -{Key press: F1}-
23=R2,36,K37,9     -{Key press: shft+Left}-
25=R2,32,K39,9     -{Key press: shft+Right}-
26=R2,38,K38,9     -{Key press: shft+Up}-
27=R2,34,K40,9     -{Key press: shft+Down}-
28=R1,0,K75,11     -{Key press: ctl+shft+K}-

[AutoSave]
Next=1
Interval=60
Files=10
SaveOnGround=No
AutoSaveEnabled=No

[GPSout]
GPSoutEnabled=No
Port=COM1
Speed=4800
Interval=2000
PosTo6Decimal=No
SimModeIndicator=No
Sentences=

[GPSout2]
GPSoutEnabled=No
Port=<none set>
Speed=4800
Interval=2000
PosTo6Decimal=No
SimModeIndicator=No
Sentences=

[WideServer]
WideFSenabled=No
AdvertiseService=1
Port=8002
Port2=9002

[Sounds]
Path=C:\P3D\Sound\
Device1=Primärer Soundtreiber
Device2=Lautsprecher (High Definition Audio Device)
Device3=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
Device4=Remoteaudio

[Auto]

[LuaFiles]
1=ipcDebug
2=RealSwitches
3=textmenu
4=tevent
5=display_ap
6=display_fuel

[Keys]
1=76,8,L2:R,0     -{L: Press=Lua RealSwitches }-
2=190,8,1084,0     -{.>key: Press=LuaKillAll }-
3=86,8,L5:R,0     -{V: Press=Lua display_ap }-
 

[Thomas Richter]

Hi,

I actually don't see TRIM UP/DN assignments?

Easiest way is to assign Buttons or Keys direct to controls and not to assigned keys from FS. It looks like this for example for Elevator TRIM with Joystick button. Same you would do for key presses on Keys Presses tab

Thomas

[Detlef_747]

On 10/20/2019 at 8:57 PM, Thomas Richter said:

Easiest way is to assign Buttons or Keys direct to controls and not to assigned keys from FS. It looks like this for example for Elevator TRIM with Joystick button. Same you would do for key presses on Keys Presses tab

Hello Thomas,

thank you for your reply. I have not yet come arround to try your suggestion but will do. 

Thank you

Detlef