Chazsi Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) The manual speaks of differing requirements for different CAT aircraft. How do I know the CAT designation of each aircraft? Thanks in advance Edited August 11, 2017 by Chazsi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky King Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Good question, I was wondering the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdubya Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 Related to this, if anyone can explain to me the flight strips I would be grateful. I understand some basic information on them, but cannot decipher where the Category I, II or III is designated as Chazsi and Sky King asked above. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futureboy Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airliners_by_maximum_takeoff_weight • Cat I = under 41,000 pounds gross weight (small) • Cat II = between 41,000 and 255,000 pounds gross weight (large)• Cat III = over 255,000 pounds gross weight (heavy) RickyJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdubya Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) RickyJ: I understand what the categories are- what I would like to know is can you look at a flight's strip in Tower!3D and know what the category of a given aircraft is? Not trying to be a jerk here, I just want to know what information is relayed on the strip. Some of it is dead obvious, the rest? - not so much. Note: I looked at the Avwriter thread you quoted and saw your breakdown on one flight, thanks. So, are all (M)edium/Cat II flights noted as XXXM and all (H)eavy/Cat III flights as XXXH in the game? Thanks. Edited August 13, 2017 by Pdubya clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crbascott Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 From a sim perspective, I really haven't seen where the category type makes a difference. The manual talks a lot about separation on departures. However, you can have a Cessna take off immediately after an A380 has successfully departed without applying any "required" separation and you won't get dinged for it. Regarding the strips, they look similar to the strips in Tower!2011. Below is from the 2011 manual: Deciphering an ARRIVAL slip - Column 1: • Line one - aircraft call sign and flight number (see Airline identification codes) • Line two – equipment type (Aircraft identification codes ). Heavy aircraft will have their equipment type followed by /H (See The Theory Behind Air Traffic Control for discussion on aircraft separation rules.) • Line three – an arbitrary number assigned by the program that generates the strips Column 2: • Line 1 – a computer generated arbitrary number • Line 2 – expected arrival time reported in UTC. • Line 3 – flight level of aircraft when transferred to you by arrival control Column 3: • Line 1– destination airport • Line 2 – departure airport Column 4: • When the aircraft has been cleared to land a check mark will be shown in this datafield.. Column 5: • Lines 1 up to 3 – assigned runway. Will have a cross through when new runway is assigned. Deciphering a DEPARTURE slip - Column 1: • Line 1 – aircraft call sign (see Airline identification codes) • Line 2 – equipment type (see Aircraft Identification Codes for more information. Heavy aircraft will have their equipment type followed by /H (See The Theory Behind Air Traffic Control for discussion on aircraft separation rules.) • Line 3 – An arbitrary number assigned by the program that generates the strips Column 2: • Line 1 – a computer generated arbitrary number • Line 2 – time of departure, reported as UTC • Line 3 – flight level of aircraft when transferred to you by arrival control Column 3: • Line 1 – departure airport • Line 2 – destination airport Column 4: • Tower will display controller notes under these circumstances - ✔ For local flights the number of go-arounds, low approaches and touch and goes the plane will conduct. ✔ Display the assigned runway intersection for takeoff (see Ground commands, AT command). ✔ When you clear an aircraft for takeoff a check mark will be shown. Column 5: • Lines 1 up to 3 – assigned runway. Will have a cross through when new runway is assigned. Aircraft Identification Codes CODE COMMON_AIRCRAFT NAME SIZE BODY_DESIGNATION JTO Wide-body default jet H WIDE BODY JET JT1 Narrow-body default jet L NARROW BODY JET RJ1 Regional jet S REGIONAL JET TRP Turboprop S TURBOPROP PRP Propeller airplane S PROP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futureboy Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Pdubya said: RickyJ: can you look at a flight's strip in Tower!3D and know what the category of a given aircraft is? Yes, when I see the plane is a 73W, I know that it is a 737-700, its' maximum takeoff weight is 154.500 lbs which makes it a category 2 plane. But I do not have to look at its' designation since I have Nyerges Real Traffic and Real Color I can tell what type of plane it is just by looking at it. Good job Nyerges, RickyJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdubya Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 Thanks to you both, that helps a lot. Perhaps later this year we are due for a manual update. It would help with reducing newb questions. I found the current one lacking, lots of repetitive paragraphs and basic information but no specifics to answer your questions. I'll leave it at that as I know FT are a small company and rather busy with stuff. Oh, I also was wondering if the 2011 manual is still available to access or download. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazsi Posted August 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Thanks for all the helpful replies Much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rameus Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Question about line 2 column 2. How is that the expected arrival time? Maybe it's different depending on the airport. At KLAS starting at 0800, the number is 5181 for every arriving aircraft. This number isn't a time. Can @FeelThere or anyone else clarify what that number is supposed to be? Rameus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crbascott Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 The above is from the 2011 manual and as mentioned the strips look similar in Pro, but not exact. Doing a quick test, KATL was 4026 and KLGA was 3020. Looks like an airport specific arbitrary number that has no real significance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason B Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 On 8/13/2017 at 10:04 AM, crbascott said: From a sim perspective, I really haven't seen where the category type makes a difference. The manual talks a lot about separation on departures. However, you can have a Cessna take off immediately after an A380 has successfully departed without applying any "required" separation and you won't get dinged for it. Regarding the strips, they look similar to the strips in Tower!2011. Below is from the 2011 manual: Deciphering an ARRIVAL slip - Column 1: • Line one - aircraft call sign and flight number (see Airline identification codes) • Line two – equipment type (Aircraft identification codes ). Heavy aircraft will have their equipment type followed by /H (See The Theory Behind Air Traffic Control for discussion on aircraft separation rules.) • Line three – an arbitrary number assigned by the program that generates the strips Column 2: • Line 1 – a computer generated arbitrary number • Line 2 – expected arrival time reported in UTC. • Line 3 – flight level of aircraft when transferred to you by arrival control Column 3: • Line 1– destination airport • Line 2 – departure airport Column 4: • When the aircraft has been cleared to land a check mark will be shown in this datafield.. Column 5: • Lines 1 up to 3 – assigned runway. Will have a cross through when new runway is assigned. Deciphering a DEPARTURE slip - Column 1: • Line 1 – aircraft call sign (see Airline identification codes) • Line 2 – equipment type (see Aircraft Identification Codes for more information. Heavy aircraft will have their equipment type followed by /H (See The Theory Behind Air Traffic Control for discussion on aircraft separation rules.) • Line 3 – An arbitrary number assigned by the program that generates the strips Column 2: • Line 1 – a computer generated arbitrary number • Line 2 – time of departure, reported as UTC • Line 3 – flight level of aircraft when transferred to you by arrival control Column 3: • Line 1 – departure airport • Line 2 – destination airport Column 4: • Tower will display controller notes under these circumstances - ✔ For local flights the number of go-arounds, low approaches and touch and goes the plane will conduct. ✔ Display the assigned runway intersection for takeoff (see Ground commands, AT command). ✔ When you clear an aircraft for takeoff a check mark will be shown. Column 5: • Lines 1 up to 3 – assigned runway. Will have a cross through when new runway is assigned. Aircraft Identification Codes CODE COMMON_AIRCRAFT NAME SIZE BODY_DESIGNATION JTO Wide-body default jet H WIDE BODY JET JT1 Narrow-body default jet L NARROW BODY JET RJ1 Regional jet S REGIONAL JET TRP Turboprop S TURBOPROP PRP Propeller airplane S PROP For anyone looking up this in 2024. Arrival Slip, Column 1, Line 3 is the sqwak code(doesn’t matter in game) Column 2, Line 1 is not an arbitrary number, it’s the game time that the aircraft contacted the tower. Same with Departure tag Line 2 should be an arbitrary Line 3 is the time (in minutes only) that the aircraft is expected to arrive at the terminal/gate. This also goes for the Departure tag. I believe they changed the strip from the original 2017 launch at some point. time on the strip can be full time or only minutes after the initial contact time is listed. you can also type in the center column if you want to add notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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